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    Does Flagg hit his top 1% potential playing with Wemby? Is there enough oxygen at the top?

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    Flagg is somewhere between Pippen 0.8 and Pippen 1.2. That’s a of a projection.

    I’d be ecstatic if Harper can turn out like Cade.

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    Sure, as a backup.
    But that team has no self-creation whatsoever, they need a high end starting PG.
    They basically need a starting PG, and Uncle Chris still is that. He started all 82, and with a competent backup, he might do it again. Dallas has no means to get what you’re advocating.

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    Harper would be the #1 pick in the 2024 draft easily and maybe the 2022 draft, 2021 draft
    I don't think he would have been taken over Banchero nor Chet. Tough call vs Cade.

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    They basically need a starting PG, and Uncle Chris still is that. He started all 82, and with a competent backup, he might do it again. Dallas has no means to get what you’re advocating.
    I was going to say that he might just got to Dallas, but I didn't want to bring it up. I think he's going to be interested in wanting to play with Cooper Flagg and Anthony Davis.

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    Flagg is somewhere between Pippen 0.8 and Pippen 1.2. That’s a of a projection.

    I’d be ecstatic if Harper can turn out like Cade.
    I think of Flagg more as Rasheed with a better motor, which is a monster of a player. I know he doesn't have Sheed's height but they have virtually the same wingspan.

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    Higher vertical than Flagg. For a guard, Harper has elite athleticism measurements so far..


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    Higher vertical than Flagg. For a guard, Harper has elite athleticism measurements so far..

    Harper only one inch behind with way better reach

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    I can see why Flagg is the presumed #1 pick but I don't see why many think Harper is far behind. Someone that crafty offensively with great athleticism and size will bound to have a low floor and high ceiling in the NBA.

    Flagg is more versatile, a better 2 way player, and can play both forward positions but nothing specifically jumps out in terms of skill set. His self-creation looks clunky at times. Can easily see him fall into a second or third option role whereas I can see the potential of Harper running the offense of a team. Still would pick Flagg if given the chance but I don't see the gap being as large as people think.

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    Flagg is in a tier by himself. He was arguably the best player in College last year, and he's the youngest player in the draft. His upside is something like Tatum / Kawhi with healthy knees, and he was a better prospect than either of those two. He was both a very good offensive and defensive player, and should be able to fill spots on the floor and provide help at 3/4.

    I love Harper. I love big guards who are on balance, have good footwork and can drive, the size gives a lot of positional flexibility. I would trade 2, 14 and cancel the swap for Flagg and not think too hard about it.

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    Flagg is rated 83 in 2K. Harper 80. So the difference is 3.

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    I don't think he would have been taken over Banchero nor Chet. Tough call vs Cade.
    right before that draft wasnt the rumor that jabari smith was gonna go #1?

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    right before that draft wasnt the rumor that jabari smith was gonna go #1?
    Yeah I remember the hype being that the draft would go

    1. Smith
    2. Holmgren
    3. Ivey
    4. Banchero

    but that turned out bull . Glad Banchero went #1 because I was pissed the Spurs weren't trying to trade up to #4 to get him back when it looked like he would slip there.

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    I sure hope Nico thinks like this guy..

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    I'll go with a homer stance, but what's Flagg's generational talent trait? He looks like a surefire all-star without any real red flags (pun intended), but what's his S+ tier talent that would make him generational?
    Doesn't have Lebron's athleticism, KD's scoring ability or nephew's hands/strength. I can definitely see a Pippen 2.0, but not the best player in the league, even if we exclude Wemby.

    Meanwhile Harper's 70% at the rim that was just posted in that other topic is a generational attribute combined with his size and footwork.
    Guards never get all-time great superstar labels in the draft.
    SGA, Curry, Harden and got picked after inferior wings just because "can't teach size argument", Haliburton and Brunson are leading their teams, every elite team has elite ballhandlers who can create out of nothing.

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    Both will be stars.

    But either can be better than the other.

    That's why Dallas and Spurs will hesitate to trade. if you gamble wrong, you regret for lifetime.

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    not sure if this is old news and im not in da loop like you guys...but..
    go to the 3:00 mark and check out his answer to how he thinks he fits with the dallas roster?

    apologies if this is old news -


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    wherever i end up...wherever it is...? wut?

    lol mavs

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    Does Flagg hit his top 1% potential playing with Wemby? Is there enough oxygen at the top?
    I think so, he has a really diverse offensive game and he'd have a lot of freedom defensively with Victor behind him at the rim. Would have been a dream pairing, Duncan-Robinson level but hitting their primes together.

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    That's kind of old. Early season looked like an outside shot Harper could work his way to #1 on the draft boards but once Flagg's three point shot came around it was over.

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    I'll go with a homer stance, but what's Flagg's generational talent trait? He looks like a surefire all-star without any real red flags (pun intended), but what's his S+ tier talent that would make him generational?
    Doesn't have Lebron's athleticism, KD's scoring ability or nephew's hands/strength. I can definitely see a Pippen 2.0, but not the best player in the league, even if we exclude Wemby.

    Meanwhile Harper's 70% at the rim that was just posted in that other topic is a generational attribute combined with his size and footwork.
    Guards never get all-time great superstar labels in the draft.
    SGA, Curry, Harden and got picked after inferior wings just because "can't teach size argument", Haliburton and Brunson are leading their teams, every elite team has elite ballhandlers who can create out of nothing.
    He’s not generational. Neither is Flagg . That term is massively overused. Since the turn of the millennium, there have been 3 generational prospects: LeBron, Zion, and Wemby. That’s it. There’s a difference between generational and a clear #1, which is what Flagg is, and what AD was.

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    I'll go with a homer stance, but what's Flagg's generational talent trait? He looks like a surefire all-star without any real red flags (pun intended), but what's his S+ tier talent that would make him generational?
    Doesn't have Lebron's athleticism, KD's scoring ability or nephew's hands/strength. I can definitely see a Pippen 2.0, but not the best player in the league, even if we exclude Wemby.

    Meanwhile Harper's 70% at the rim that was just posted in that other topic is a generational attribute combined with his size and footwork.
    Guards never get all-time great superstar labels in the draft.
    SGA, Curry, Harden and got picked after inferior wings just because "can't teach size argument", Haliburton and Brunson are leading their teams, every elite team has elite ballhandlers who can create out of nothing.
    To me Flagg is Rasheed with a better motor. He's not Dame shooting the three or Duncan on the block or Giannis facing up and bulling to the rim but he's a jack of all trades who has a lot of ways to attack efficiently. Same way Sheed was, so many tools. And Rasheed with a motor is terrifying.

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