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You overstate the market for Durant. And then underrate Durants ability to tank deals to random teams who might have a “better deal.”
2 is used to draft Harper, not traded for Durant.
You overstate the market for Durant. And then underrate Durants ability to tank deals to random teams who might have a “better deal.”
Ah ok. I interpreted it as 2, 14 going out for Durant as that was part of the trade, instead of we keep 2 and 14 plus filler goes to Durant.
Suns are dumb enough to bite on this. Ishiba literally just hired his friend to be the GM so he could be the GM himself.
i like durant. i dont think theres a team in the league where he's a poor fit. its just going to come down to how much draft capital we'd be expected to part with beyond #14 this year. as much as some of us on ST feel pretty over Vassell/Sochan, i agree with chinook that they should carry some degree of trade value and arent going to be seen or treated purely as salary fodder in the way Keldon and Barnes might. and yeah id insist on shipping branham as part of the trade. it was ridiculous to pick up his option to begin with
i like Portis but not if his expectation is primarily backup 5
I could be totally wrong on this, but I think picking up Wesley and Branham's option were about giving us smallish salaries to use in packages to make salaries match. I don't think they picked it up for any on court reason. After this summer we'll know if that was a smart strategy or not.
maybe. i didnt hate picking up Wesley's option because he actually contributes and has gotten better year to year. branham's was nonsense, but i hope you are right about what their reasoning was.
if we hand't lucked into #2, the other aspect of a KD trade would probably be CP3's willingness to stick around as a reserve on a team trying to make a run
Spot on. Combined by my math they can bring back a player in the 10-12M range.
And whether he and KD have animosity that'd prevent them from being teammates again.
Who says no?
SAS: Straus; Okoro; 31FRP
CLE: Vassell
Spurs get shooting help (Straus), and a Keldon replacement (Okoro) for when he's dealt separately. Both deals end in 2 years. The 31FRP is the first CLE can trade if my understanding of their traded picks is right.
Probably Cleveland, but maybe not... that's a pretty good one value wise.
Houston sending their Phoenix lottery pick back, plus salaries, probably beats our deal.
Okoro is unplayable and has 2 more years on his contract. Poison.
Cleveland sent picks along with Cedi specifically for the ability to sign Strus. They had a good year, but some bad luck. I don’t see them making any major moves.
Hes dead weight maybe, but useful in getting off DV's longer term money
I think its less about what they did in the past, and more about what they need to return to the top in the East. While Dev would be an upgrade in my view, I do think that the Celtics new situation may make them feel comfortable staying pat as you say.
Why would we want to get rid of Devin's contract, which is declining and have literal dead money on the books in the form of Okoro? Spurs are in a great spot cap-wise and need more volume shooters, not less.
Also, Cleveland are in the 2nd apron and can't execute this trade, it doesn't get them below it.
What they need to do it to find a way to pay a team to absorb Okoro into their MLE and find a creative way to acquire a wing stopper. Their cap situation is bad with Mitc 's and Mobley's extensions kicking in and Mobley's being 30%, instead of 25%.
Asking for a friend: Not a trade, but is there a world, where we take on Al Hordord for two years?
Assuming Harper's camp doesn't want him in SA:
SA: #5, Herb Jones, TMIII, Missi
PHI: Vassell, Zion, 26 swap with best of SA/ATL/PHI
NO: #2, #3, #14, PG13, Branham, Wesley
whattabout Vassell + Braham for De Andre Ayton? we need a big and DAY is on the last year of his contract (so next season at least he's gonna free cap space) and Portland has Clingan on the rise plus minutes to give to R. Williams...
I'd rather keep Vassell tbh.
Ayton sucks. He’s a very talented lazy ass. There’s a reason that Portland drafted Clingan. He’s going to push Ayton out,and onto the F A market.
NO doesn't have #5, they have #7, which makes a pretty huge difference in this draft, IMO.
The Herb/TMIII idea is the only potential trade-down scenario that even remotely interests me, personally
Does this one interest you: Vassell straight up for Cam Johnson? Brooklyn gets some backcourt help, and SA gets a frontcourt player that can hit a three. Brooklyn gets a player four years younger under contract for four years on a descending contract at $27 million, and SA gets a player under contract for two more years averaging $22 million. Spurs can throw in Wesley of Barnham as ballast.
Both players have warts to their game.
Yes, but not so much because I like Cam Johnson but because he fits the team better and it saves us $5M/yr and two years of Vassell's contract.
I rate Vassell and Cam about equally, but Vassell is a SG in my opinion and if we are getting Harper there is no room for him. Cam is that hybrid 3/4 who isn't exactly what we need but still fits better.
I saw a 3-way trade idea on Reddit that had us giving up Vassell and getting Cam and Goga (I think we'd have to add some SRPs to ORL to make this happen)... I'd be into that (I realize there are concerns about whatever altercation Goga once got into years ago, and honestly am not sure the Spurs would really put too much weight into that so long as the rest of Goga's background checked out).
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