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sorber makes a lot of sense for either Chicago at 12 or Atlanta at 13. if the spurs keep pick 14, their need for a wing far outpaces their need for a backup C imo. and i like sorber
Easily Fleming. I'm not super high on McNeely. Saw him early in the season at the Maui Invitational and wasn't let down but also wasn't super impressed. I have question marks about Fleming, but I'm willing to roll the dice after landing Harper.
I would take Sorber before both though.
sorber makes a lot of sense for either Chicago at 12 or Atlanta at 13. if the spurs keep pick 14, their need for a wing far outpaces their need for a backup C imo. and i like sorber
Dejounte I know Sorber got a jumper. Do you think he could actually play PF next to Wemby, kind of like Horford on the Celtics where he plays some minutes at PF and at C?
I think that's right. Chicago especially needs a big. They both do. But who knows what Chicago does anymore.
Washington either goes for like a Fears or could go for local kid Queen. Gotta admit Washington looks kind of fun with Queen added.
I'm hearing buzz about Bryant to Chicago which, if true, makes no kind of sense.
ESPN Mock put him 22
22. Atlanta Hawks (via Los Angeles Lakers)
Thomas Sorber, C, Georgetown
Freshman | TS%: 58.7
Scouting report: Sorber isn't expected to conduct much on-court activity during the predraft process as he recovers from foot surgery in February. Still, his strong feel for the game, defensive versatility, length, physicality and skill level as a pick-and-roll finisher are attractive qualities at 19 years old that should draw plenty of attention in this portion of the draft. -- Givony
I like McNeeley. I think he's going to be a plus deep threat on this level once he's in a role instead of being asked to do things outside his skill set.
Pretty c confident Sorber will be gone by 14 but wouldn't be mad at all if he fell to us. Spurs desperately need a shooting wing and a stretch 4 on this roster though.
Sorber seems like a really nice to have while Fleming/McNeeley seem like plug a critical hole players. I really can't decide if I want Fleming's length or McNeeley's youth more if both are still on the board at 14, but it's gotta be a forward who can shoot the three no matter what for me unless they're trading the pick for KD or another forward with a smooth jumper.
While I agree that Fleming and McNeely both fill bigger holes on the Spurs than Sorber, my opinion is that Sorber is the better player, with a higher median expectation. So with that said, I'm still in the mode of just taking the better player. I also think that maybe there is a possibility we go for a 3 guards + 2 bigs approach like OKC has, and that Wemby and Sorber can play alongside each other.
With that said, I admit I am not the most knowledgeable poster when it comes to the draft and scouting... so you won't be dunking on me when you come quote this in 3 years and Sorber is out of the league and McNeely is an allstar
while i generally agree that being tunnel visioned on immiediate needs is foolish, we know we have a centerWhile I agree that Fleming and McNeely both fill bigger holes on the Spurs than Sorber, my opinion is that Sorber is the better player, with a higher median expectation. So with that said, I'm still in the mode of just taking the better player. I also think that maybe there is a possibility we go for a 3 guards + 2 bigs approach like OKC has, and that Wemby and Sorber can play alongside each other.
With that said, I admit I am not the most knowledgeable poster when it comes to the draft and scouting... so you won't be dunking on me when you come quote this in 3 years and Sorber is out of the league and McNeely is an allstar
so with sorber it really comes down to a belief that he can play significant minutes alongside vic. im less convinced of this. i know dejounte is very bullish on the idea of sorber playing next to vic.
Just can't stomach drafting a 16% three point shooter when this team is in such desperate need of shooting. If I was gonna dunk on you I'd tell you to go get your shinebox for saying Harper would be the #1 pick over Flagg tbh.While I agree that Fleming and McNeely both fill bigger holes on the Spurs than Sorber, my opinion is that Sorber is the better player, with a higher median expectation. So with that said, I'm still in the mode of just taking the better player. I also think that maybe there is a possibility we go for a 3 guards + 2 bigs approach like OKC has, and that Wemby and Sorber can play alongside each other.
With that said, I admit I am not the most knowledgeable poster when it comes to the draft and scouting... so you won't be dunking on me when you come quote this in 3 years and Sorber is out of the league and McNeely is an allstar
The way i do it is looking at it as a group of players in tiers. For instance, if its McNeely and Rasheer at #14 I'd go McNeely because he's in a higher tier, but if it's McNeely and Sorber either would be fine and I'd choose based on need/fit. In the same light if Fears and Rasheer were on the board I'd go with Rasheer, even though he's lower on my board, because a PG wouldn't fit here if we draft Harper and they are in the same tier.While I agree that Fleming and McNeely both fill bigger holes on the Spurs than Sorber, my opinion is that Sorber is the better player, with a higher median expectation. So with that said, I'm still in the mode of just taking the better player. I also think that maybe there is a possibility we go for a 3 guards + 2 bigs approach like OKC has, and that Wemby and Sorber can play alongside each other.
With that said, I admit I am not the most knowledgeable poster when it comes to the draft and scouting... so you won't be dunking on me when you come quote this in 3 years and Sorber is out of the league and McNeely is an allstar
I actually believe having a legitimate defensive big who can play C when Wemby is resting is just as big a need for this team as wing players who can shoot the 3.
Our defense absolutely collapses when Wemby sits, largely because we don't have anyone who can protect the rim when he's gone, and that forces our entire defensive iden y to change.
there are plenty of 7 footers in the late 1st/early 2nd round who can be nice back up bigs
Good bigs don’t fall out of the sky.
we need to treat Wemby’s position the same as we’re treating guards now. With three guards there won’t be any downtime in point guard performance. Needs to be same for the center position.
I agree. Sorber looks to me like he could be for us what Horford is for the Celtics. Either starter or super sub who gets minutes at PF and C
Can't say I anticipate Sorber shooting 38% from the three point line like Horford has for his career or I'd be dying to draft him
he‘s basically the big man version of Castle:
a high floor high ceiling prospect with a complete game who‘s swing skill is his jump shot. The thing is even if he never develops a shot he‘s a at least a great back up big and would still get rotation minutes. But if he does, he might just be exactly who we need starting at PF. He shoots 72% from the line and has decent form. It‘s not like he’s Sochan.
Umm… Al Horford didn’t start shooting 3’s until his 8th or 9th year lol
If this kid is as good as advertised, I can't see him making it past Bulls and Hawks, both teams really need rim protection.
OK but the post I was replying to was talking about what Horford brought the Celtics. Not Atlanta Horford.
Sorber ranked #1 in the country in defensive LEBRON this season and 4th in defensive BPR - higher than Donovan Clingan last year. The concerns about him are 1) he's a big with a foot injury, which is a red flag and 2) that he might be limited offensively at the next level because his production plummets against any good team and he doesn't necessarily have the vertical pop to be a vertical spacer. But he's literally the same size as Andre Drummond so he's clearly big enough to play center at the next level, and even if he ends up like a Goga Bitadze who's all defense and very little offense (and Sorber's passing and feel are much higher than Bitadze imo) those backup center minutes would have a huge positive effect since defense for centers outweighs any offensive production, especially when you've got a bunch of high level guards on your team.
If Sorber's there, you gotta take him.
Maybe you go with Carter Bryant but even then I'd close my eyes and take Sorber (maybe).
He's gonna do what he needs to do.
And if that's shooting threes, that's what he'll end up doing.
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