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    I don't think Philadelphia want to move that pick. Apparently Morey's happy to get that pick in this draft as he says it's 7-8 players deep. The 4th pick might be the only spot to move up to. I wonder if Philadelphia will draft Bailey, though?
    To quote James Harden, Darryl Morey is a liar.
    He's surely trying to scam someone using that #3 pick as we speak.

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    Yea no thanks.

    Bros trying to tank his stock to keep playing with Harper

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    "You miss 100% of the shots you don't take..
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    - Ace Bailey

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    So also not into Asians I see? (my Japanese grandmother looked 30 in her 50s, probably looked 13 in her 30s lol)

    Also almost all of Dillion's work was at age 21+ and started at 19, no Traci Lords
    Well, I'm married to an Asian... but she doesn't look like she's 14.

    But we do joke around... Asians don't raisin. An Asian woman will look 30 until she is 80, and then the next day she'll look like she's 1000.

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    More I read about this kid the more excited I get. Maybe the fit isn’t “perfect” but he can 100% co-exist with Castle/Fox and we’re so far away from being at the point where fit is primary concern anyways.
    while i was confused about some conflicting numbers on his "catch and shoot" percentage and "spot up" percentage, evidently the difference is that catch-and-shoot is a broader definition which includes any jump shot that you take without dribbling or waiting, while spot-up is a subset of those shots where you are not in motion. while movement shooting is a very valuable trait, spot ups are at least the bare minimum.

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    Well, I'm married to an Asian... but she doesn't look like she's 14.

    But we do joke around... Asians don't raisin. An Asian woman will look 30 until she is 80, and then the next day she'll look like she's 1000.
    classic meme


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    while i was confused about some conflicting numbers on his "catch and shoot" percentage and "spot up" percentage, evidently the difference is that catch-and-shoot is a broader definition which includes any jump shot that you take without dribbling or waiting, while spot-up is a subset of those shots where you are not in motion. while movement shooting is a very valuable trait, spot ups are at least the bare minimum.
    As far as I understood it, catch and shoot is just that, a shot you take without any dribbling, so basically, catch and shoot it, while a spot-up shot, you can dribble, but it's basically a set shot/stationary shot. Is that how they're defining it?

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    Trouble in paradise?


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    Trouble in paradise?

    I see nothing wrong with that statement

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    Trouble in paradise?

    Well there are a lot of reports that Spurs might go after Giannis so he's just being cautious imho

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    Trouble in paradise?

    What do you mean by trouble in paradise? What's your definition on that? Daslicer says Ron Harper is not a Spurs fan and I am starting to sense a bit of hate from RH already, but maybe that is because I have in my head what Daslicer mentioned. It's actually starting to bother me because it's more disrespect towards Tim Duncan which I have just about had enough of from guys that were never anywhere near as good as him.

    As for his statement, I know what he's saying is factually correct, but I wonder where Ron Harper is coming from. I'm thinking two options - Does he not want the Spurs to pick him (maybe he thinks the Spurs will hold him back having to take a backseat to other players?), or is he not wanting to come out and say anything in case the Spurs trade the pick?

    This wait until the draft is going to be longer than I thought with all this speculation swirling around.
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    while i was confused about some conflicting numbers on his "catch and shoot" percentage and "spot up" percentage, evidently the difference is that catch-and-shoot is a broader definition which includes any jump shot that you take without dribbling or waiting, while spot-up is a subset of those shots where you are not in motion. while movement shooting is a very valuable trait, spot ups are at least the bare minimum.
    I’m assuming you were seeing that his C&S % was much poorer? But yeah, on this team I’ll take anything we can get Just being a threat and not allowing teams to pack the paint or crowd Vic is something that you can’t say about many on this team.

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    I see nothing wrong with that statement
    I didnt say it was wrong….just wondering how loud of an influence Ron may be in the process and if he’s signaling anything potentially here…

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    Either Ron Harper really hates the Spurs or he thinks there's a real chance Dallas takes him at #1. Most likely the first one.

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    For the (quickly shrinking) "Bailey over Harper "crowd. I don't have him as low as 12, but I do agree that he's not the prospect he's been billed as, especially due to his lack of handle and poor shot selection. And that was before I knew he was 6'7.5 instead of 6'10. I've seen more people arguing for him on Twitter and YouTube than on ST, but still. Harper is the easy choice here.

    That’s great but your points are weak. The 6.75” has been about beat to death already and his standing reach of 8’11” is legit. Then your disregard the possibility he can’t learn better shot selection. Now if you want to play the low BBIQ card that’s fine, but focusing only on shot selection for a great shot maker rings hollow. While I am a Harper lean because he seems the legit standalone 2 prospect, at least try and poke better holes in Bailey.

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    Either Ron Harper really hates the Spurs or he thinks there's a real chance Dallas takes him at #1. Most likely the first one.
    Whoa, I never even thought of that possibility. Could Dallas really do it?

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    Just keep in mind that kids can't be resposnible for their parents' awful takes as we've seen many times already.

    For example, Tari Eason's mom posted this last night.


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    Either Ron Harper really hates the Spurs or he thinks there's a real chance Dallas takes him at #1. Most likely the first one.
    That would certainly be epic if Harper talked DAL into taking Harper #1!

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    Either Ron Harper really hates the Spurs or he thinks there's a real chance Dallas takes him at #1. Most likely the first one.
    Or people just reading too much into nothing. Ron’s other tweets suggest he has nothing against the Spurs. He’s just taking a wait and see approach.

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    His expected value might be Cade man. Very similar college stats, similar build, and he said he patterns his game after Cade.
    It's going to be virtually impossible for Harper to be Cade in SA, because from day one the Pistons gave Cade the ball and made him the franchise guy. He never had a Wemby or Fox on his team he had to share the ball with.

    Would Cade be Cade if his rookie year he had a big on his team taking around 20 shots a game and another ball dominant point guard in front of him? He wouldn't. Actually Cade would probably be Jaden Ivey

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    Yea no thanks.

    I feel like Rudy Gay had a lot of this same slap happy bravado when he came in.

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    Or people just reading too much into nothing. Ron’s other tweets suggest he has nothing against the Spurs. He’s just taking a wait and see approach.
    Could very well be the case….just wonder why he would then feel the need to tweet something so vanilla?

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    What do you mean by trouble in paradise? What's your definition on that? Daslicer says Ron Harper is not a Spurs fan and I am starting to sense a bit of hate from RH already, but maybe that is because I have in my head what Daslicer mentioned. It's actually starting to bother me because it's more disrespect towards Tim Duncan which I have just about had enough of from guys that were never anywhere near as good as him.

    As for his statement, I know what he's saying is factually correct, but I wonder where Ron Harper is coming from. I'm thinking two options - Does he not want the Spurs to pick him (maybe he thinks the Spurs will hold him back having to take a backseat to other players?), or is he not wanting to come out and say anything in case the Spurs trade the pick?

    This wait until the draft is going to be longer than I thought with all this speculation swirling around.
    I wouldn’t read too much into it. The two possibilities you mentioned make sense, and as a dad he’s probably just protecting his boy. He’s also seeing the same Giannis we are, as well as the “can they play all 3 of them guys together” stuff.

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    How active is Ron Harper in his son's life? Because his twitter feed definitely has old man screaming at the TV vibes. Is he gonna be the kind of dude who does interviews talking about his son should play more, and tweeting at players to pass Dylan the ball?

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    What do you mean by trouble in paradise? What's your definition on that? Daslicer says Ron Harper is not a Spurs fan and I am starting to sense a bit of hate from RH already, but maybe that is because I have in my head what Daslicer mentioned. It's actually starting to bother me because it's more disrespect towards Tim Duncan which I have just about had enough of from guys that were never anywhere near as good as him.

    As for his statement, I know what he's saying is factually correct, but I wonder where Ron Harper is coming from. I'm thinking two options - Does he not want the Spurs to pick him (maybe he thinks the Spurs will hold him back having to take a backseat to other players?), or is he not wanting to come out and say anything in case the Spurs trade the pick?

    This wait until the draft is going to be longer than I thought with all this speculation swirling around.
    You answered your own question. “Trouble in paradise” means does Harper not want SA to draft Dylan?

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