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    what I read into Harper's tweet was that a lot can happen before the draft, such as a trade, or another player moving up, or even down. the Spurs will work out other players.

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    I see nothing wrong with that statement
    He's just being realistic. We live in a world where Luka was traded. Anything can happen.

    Funny that Ron Harper write exactly the same way he speak. I can see his face when I read it.

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    How active is Ron Harper in his son's life? Because his twitter feed definitely has old man screaming at the TV vibes. Is he gonna be the kind of dude who does interviews talking about his son should play more, and tweeting at players to pass Dylan the ball?
    Here are a pair of premium season tickets, Mr. Harper. You'll love them when the playoffs roll around.

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    How active is Ron Harper in his son's life? Because his twitter feed definitely has old man screaming at the TV vibes. Is he gonna be the kind of dude who does interviews talking about his son should play more, and tweeting at players to pass Dylan the ball?
    Ron Harper was a calming vet influence on five le teams. I don't think he's suddenly turning into Lavar Ball based on a single tweet telling people not to count their chickens.

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    Ron Harper was a calming vet influence on five le teams. I don't think he's suddenly turning into Lavar Ball based on a single tweet telling people not to count their chickens.
    Look at the rest of his Twitter feed...

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    Look at the rest of his Twitter feed...
    I saw some positive interactions with Spurs fans

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    It just reads as him saying nothing has happened yet, that's it.

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    You answered your own question. “Trouble in paradise” means does Harper not want SA to draft Dylan?
    That is what I was thinking. I am also not sure if his Dad is going to be wanting to put his two cents in all the time if the Spurs draft Harper like they're expected to.

    Here are a pair of premium season tickets, Mr. Harper. You'll love them when the playoffs roll around.
    Not sure I want him coming to the games if he's going to be meddling. I hope I'm just blowing it up into nothing and not perceiving the tweets the way he's intended them.

    Sounds like his mom is pretty reasonable, though, so I am hoping she's a good influence on him if his dad starts commenting about playing time, touches and things like that.

    It's going to be virtually impossible for Harper to be Cade in SA, because from day one the Pistons gave Cade the ball and made him the franchise guy. He never had a Wemby or Fox on his team he had to share the ball with.

    Would Cade be Cade if his rookie year he had a big on his team taking around 20 shots a game and another ball dominant point guard in front of him? He wouldn't. Actually Cade would probably be Jaden Ivey
    This is what I was initially thinking about the tweets. He's not going to get the ball as much so it might hold back his franchise player potential development track.

    Do you guys think if Dylan Harper has franchise player potential, will that be held back playing for the Spurs, or at least delayed, take longer to reach not being the number 1 or 2 option?

    I wouldn’t read too much into it. The two possibilities you mentioned make sense, and as a dad he’s probably just protecting his boy. He’s also seeing the same Giannis we are, as well as the “can they play all 3 of them guys together” stuff.
    Yeah, maybe. As long as he doesn't inject himself and start commenting online or behind the scenes. I don't know if the Spurs are going to want to deal with that. Would the team likely speak to his dad before deciding on the draft pick you think? I really don't think they want another guy like Kawhi and his uncle.

    How active is Ron Harper in his son's life? Because his twitter feed definitely has old man screaming at the TV vibes. Is he gonna be the kind of dude who does interviews talking about his son should play more, and tweeting at players to pass Dylan the ball?
    I'm not on Twitter/X, so I can't read his tweets.

    what I read into Harper's tweet was that a lot can happen before the draft, such as a trade, or another player moving up, or even down. the Spurs will work out other players.
    You could be 100% right. Too hard to say what he's thinking.

    He's just being realistic. We live in a world where Luka was traded. Anything can happen.

    Funny that Ron Harper write exactly the same way he speak. I can see his face when I read it.
    Yeah, true, maybe the Luka thing has everybody shook up and taken a bit of certainty away from people.

    Ron Harper was a calming vet influence on five le teams. I don't think he's suddenly turning into Lavar Ball based on a single tweet telling people not to count their chickens.
    Yes, I do recall people saying he was a calming influence back on those Bulls and Lakers teams, but that is when he was playing and he had control of what could go on the court. It could be different with his son that has franchise player potential and he might find it hard to hold back and not get involved if he thinks he's being held back. Hopefully that is not the case, though.

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    Look at the rest of his Twitter feed...
    Pass. I'll take your word for it. You asked the question, I gave my opinion based on watching him as a player. Maybe he's different as a dad. I have overreacted defending my kids too. Most other pros who have kids in the league don't end up getting overly involved if my memory is correct. I certainly wouldn't worry about it.

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    Pass. I'll take your word for it. You asked the question, I gave my opinion based on watching him as a player. Maybe he's different as a dad. I have overreacted defending my kids too. Most other pros who have kids in the league don't end up getting overly involved if my memory is correct. I certainly wouldn't worry about it.
    It's not really anything bad... just a lot of social justice stuff (which is all good in my book) but then a lot of what I describe as "old man yelling at the TV" energy. Like there is a tweet at the LPGA for the event on TV being slow

    I'm legitimately curious if anyone knows how active he is in Dylan's life since he wasn't in that Toyota video. Could make for some entertaining social media activity if/when Dylan is a Spur

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    There is a healthy chance the Harper camp isn't happy that the Spurs may draft him. There's a massive logjam at his position with an established star about to make the max and the reining ROY. On the very outside chance, he may not be happy that he'll always play second fiddle to Wembanyama, but let's assume that's not true.

    They could see it as years before he gets his full chance and could be relegated to the bench.

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    It's not really anything bad... just a lot of social justice stuff (which is all good in my book) but then a lot of what I describe as "old man yelling at the TV" energy. Like there is a tweet at the LPGA for the event on TV being slow

    I'm legitimately curious if anyone knows how active he is in Dylan's life since he wasn't in that Toyota video. Could make for some entertaining social media activity if/when Dylan is a Spur
    Ron Harper is no longer married to Dylan's mom. He does appear cheering Dylan on during games. Dylan credits his mom for being his 'coach,' but recounts stories Ron told him growing up about the league. Ron seems to be more than involved, but it's not clear how much.

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    It's not really anything bad... just a lot of social justice stuff (which is all good in my book) but then a lot of what I describe as "old man yelling at the TV" energy. Like there is a tweet at the LPGA for the event on TV being slow

    I'm legitimately curious if anyone knows how active he is in Dylan's life since he wasn't in that Toyota video. Could make for some entertaining social media activity if/when Dylan is a Spur
    Yeah, I always get my social justice opinions from someone who's been a millionaire for 35 years.

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    Yeah, I always get my social justice opinions from someone who's been a millionaire for 35 years.
    The amount of money a person has doesn't factor into whether they are wrong or right. C'mon, that's just blitheringly stupid.

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    Ron Harper is no longer married to Dylan's mom. He does appear cheering Dylan on during games. Dylan credits his mom for being his 'coach,' but recounts stories Ron told him growing up about the league. Ron seems to be more than involved, but it's not clear how much.
    Thanks, Body.

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    There is a healthy chance the Harper camp isn't happy that the Spurs may draft him. There's a massive logjam at his position with an established star about to make the max and the reining ROY. On the very outside chance, he may not be happy that he'll always play second fiddle to Wembanyama, but let's assume that's not true.

    They could see it as years before he gets his full chance and could be relegated to the bench.
    Harper had star potential in Cleveland. He may have won ROY, I don't remember, but he was really good. Then he got traded to basketball before getting rescued by the Jordan Bulls as a role player and glue guy. I'll be interested in seeing how those experiences shape his opinions about his kid.

    Another interesting note: I seem to remember that Harper had a debilitating stutter early on and worked really hard to overcome it. I've always liked him for that. I hope I'm remembering this right.

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    Dylan Harper and Stephon Castle trying to outcompete each other is exactly what I want to see.

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    The amount of money a person has doesn't factor into whether they are wrong or right. C'mon, that's just blitheringly stupid.
    Okay.

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    Harper had star potential in Cleveland. He may have won ROY, I don't remember, but he was really good. Then he got traded to basketball before getting rescued by the Jordan Bulls as a role player and glue guy. I'll be interested in seeing how those experiences shape his opinions about his kid.

    Another interesting note: I seem to remember that Harper had a debilitating stutter early on and worked really hard to overcome it. I've always liked him for that. I hope I'm remembering this right.
    I'm pretty sure Ron Harper tore an ACL back when it was an injury that robbed you of your athleticism. I think he worked his way back and ended up on the Bulls. Yes, he was a star with the Cavs pre-injury.

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    It's going to be virtually impossible for Harper to be Cade in SA, because from day one the Pistons gave Cade the ball and made him the franchise guy. He never had a Wemby or Fox on his team he had to share the ball with.

    Would Cade be Cade if his rookie year he had a big on his team taking around 20 shots a game and another ball dominant point guard in front of him? He wouldn't. Actually Cade would probably be Jaden Ivey
    Meh, James Harden came off the bench his first 3 seasons and he still became game breaking James Harden. If Dylan has legit superstar trajectory the team will absolutely accommodate and embrace it. If he is “just” a very good fringe all star then sharing the usage a bit his first couple seasons will be fine as well.

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    I'm pretty sure Ron Harper tore an ACL back when it was an injury that robbed you of your athleticism. I think he worked his way back and ended up on the Bulls. Yes, he was a star with the Cavs pre-injury.
    I only know him from the Bulls, so I never saw him at his athletic peak, but I read he was an explosive scorer and high flyer. And yes, I think he did tear an ACL (someone else will have to comment on that, though, as I'm not 100% sure on it).

    Meh, James Harden came off the bench his first 3 seasons and he still became game breaking James Harden. If Dylan has legit superstar trajectory the team will absolutely accommodate and embrace it. If he is “just” a very good fringe all star then sharing the usage a bit his first couple seasons will be fine as well.
    Good point. Maybe the Spurs could point that out to him early on to keep him on track if he's every frustrated with playing time, touches etc.

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    People are so spoiled we get the 2nd pick in the draft and people are acting like he is a mid first pick they are several Franchises that would kill to have this pick. If I am the Spurs I am welcoming him with open arms and telling we have high hopes he will help us win a ring and also say he will be given all the chances to receive Rookie of the Year.

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    There's also the chance that Ron Sr. wants Dylan to be the clear #1 guy on his team. That certainly won't happen with the Spurs.

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    I never thought about the rookie of the year race. Do you guys think the Spurs will give him the chances to actually compete for it? Ron Harper Sr. definitely could be thinking of that angle too.

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    Dylan Harper's mother is Maria Pizarro. She is from Bataan, Philippines and played college basketball for the University of New Orleans. Currently, she is an assistant coach at Don Bosco Prep, according to Rutgers University Athletics. She has a strong background in basketball, coaching her son, Dylan, and being involved in his early development.

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