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This is the likely outcome tbh
I really liked watching Michigan basketball last season, very reminiscent of the twin towers plus occasional passing of their big guy. That is what Danny Wolf brings, a very skilled, smart basketball player. His coach made him a Point Forward, and he run away with it. We like to see Mamu play except he’s a little too short to defend bigs. Wolf is 6’10 1/5 without shoes, and 9’1 starting reach. He can help with the rebound and block shots. But he can also shoot deep (as he showed at the Combine) and he can push the ball and pass. Imagine 5 players who all have guard skills, moving the ball, cutting and finding the best from the better shots.
This is the likely outcome tbh
considering the cir stances I'm meanwhile 99% sure Spurs will trade the pick. It just doesn't make sense to keep it at this point.
they need to figure out rotations with Harper, Castle and Fox, a rookie and a 2nd year player and they want to improve, make the PO, because those guys need to learn postseason play.
even if Bryant fell to #14 and would be an interesting project long term, they sure don't want to play him 2 years in the g league for 5 million per year.
so, if they trade the #14 pick for a veteran, they want at least a player, who could be part of the starting line up.
I know, they usually would not look at a divison rival for a trade, but what about Mavs? PJ Washington? he should be an interesting fit and Mavs face two issues: Flagg will eat most of PJ's minutes and they need guards.
for sure they would love to add Jakucionis, Traore or Denim. so they would be very interested in the #14 pick, right?
what is the package? #14 and Vassell for PJ and Gafford?
another player, who might be intriguing is Toumani Camara. Spurs might not want to give the #14 pick for him though. but maybe a package? or, what if they ask for Avdija plus Camara? what is the price? #14, a future 1st, Sochan, Keldon?
Last edited by Vienna; 05-16-2025 at 04:39 AM.
depends on who that upgrade is, but I'd rather keep the pick and shop Keldon, Branham and a gang of second round picks tbh
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Sounds like code for Dev/14 for KD
I'm sure they will keep the pick. Too many people are going on what happened with last year's pick but the Spurs weren't high on any player last year. Spurs still need to fill some roster holes.
This year there will be a player the Spurs will like at 14. The draft is deeper this year than last year.
Fans are focused in Fleming at 14, maybe Sorber or Liam. But the guy from UAB, Yaxel Luxembourg (?), might be a very Spurs pick. Toolsy 4 type of player.
This pick came from Atlanta. John Collins came from Atlanta. If we use the pick to get him, wouldn’t that be like a continuation of the Dejounte trade?
Should trade this if they are picking at 2. You hope the role guys goes before the pick so the team would be primed for a trade out scenario.
What's wrong with role guys? We need role guys.
We've been over this many times, there are very few players around the league of the archetype we need.
6'8-6'11 physical forwards who are positive defenders, rebounders and good shooters. Yes, it's a role player archetype, but one that's difficult to acquire, especially when contracts and cap space come into play.
So if we can draft a let's say OG Anunoby or Jaden McDaniels type with #14, we do it every single time.
Backup bigs are easier to find and using a lottery pick on one might be too much if it's just a rim running rim protector that doesn't do much else.
At some point you have to start drafting your bigs again.
Nobody trades in or up for them.
Thats been on my my mind for a bit lol I’ve always been surprised the spurs haven’t focused on drafting a young big just to bring him into the system/Culture to develop. Look how impactful a washed up Bismarck was for us late into last season, we definitely need another big unless they believe they can find an impactful one in free agency.
Gotta learn how to prompt it bruv (if you had an AI girlfriend, you’d understand)
Do a 2025 nba mock draft for me. I want you to review only the most recent mock drafts available online since last Tuesday. Be sure to examine team fit when giving me your list
1. Dallas Mavericks – Cooper Flagg, F, Duke
The Mavericks, having secured the No. 1 pick, are expected to select Cooper Flagg. At 6’9”, Flagg is a versatile forward known for his defensive prowess and playmaking ability. His addition could provide Dallas with a cornerstone player to build around.
2. San Antonio Spurs – Dylan Harper, G, Rutgers
The Spurs are projected to pick Dylan Harper, a 6’6” guard who brings scoring and playmaking skills. Harper’s versatility could complement San Antonio’s existing roster and provide a dynamic backcourt presence.
3. Philadelphia 76ers – Ace Bailey, F, Rutgers
With the third pick, the 76ers might select Ace Bailey, a 6’9” forward known for his athleticism and scoring ability. Bailey’s potential to contribute on both ends of the floor could make him a valuable asset for Philadelphia.
4. Charlotte Hornets – VJ Edgecombe, G, Baylor
The Hornets could opt for VJ Edgecombe, a 6’5” guard recognized for his athleticism and defensive capabilities. Edgecombe’s energy and perimeter defense might address Charlotte’s needs on the wing.
5. Utah Jazz – Tre Johnson, G, Texas
Utah may select Tre Johnson, a 6’6” guard with a reputation for scoring. Johnson’s offensive skills could provide the Jazz with a reliable scoring option in their backcourt.
6. Washington Wizards – Kon Knueppel, F, Duke
The Wizards might choose Kon Knueppel, a 6’6” forward known for his shooting ability. Knueppel’s perimeter scoring could help Washington stretch the floor and improve their offensive efficiency.
7. New Orleans Pelicans – Kasparas Jakucionis, G, Illinois
New Orleans could consider Kasparas Jakucionis, a 6’6” guard with international experience. His playmaking and size might complement the Pelicans’ existing roster, providing versatility in their guard rotation.
8. Detroit Pistons – Jeremiah Fears, G, Illinois
The Pistons may opt for Jeremiah Fears, a 6’3” guard known for his scoring and leadership. Fears’ ability to create shots could bolster Detroit’s offensive options.
9. Portland Trail Blazers – Khaman Maluach, C, Duke
Portland might select Khaman Maluach, a 7’2” center recognized for his rim protection and rebounding. Maluach’s presence in the paint could address the Trail Blazers’ interior defense needs.
10. Houston Rockets – Thomas Sorber, C, Georgetown
The Rockets, holding the 10th pick, are considering Thomas Sorber, a 6’9” center known for his physicality and interior scoring. Sorber’s skills could provide Houston with depth in the frontcourt.
Cause bigs dictate your playstyle too much.
what's the story with De'Andre Hunter?
yes, he had his ups and downs in the last two years (in this PO as well).
Cavs will react after the disappointment and they might be open for several trade scenarios.
ok, #14 might be a bit to much though. anything else Spurs want from them? (outside Mobley)
A lot of people are assuming the 14th pick gets moved, in large part because of what happened last year. But remember, the Spurs were ready to make a selection with that pick until Minnesota came calling with a last minute trade offer. Unless a similar trade opportunity materializes this year, the Spurs will probably be forced to use the selection, even against their will.
You’re not going to find a big wing at #14 who will be anything in the next 3 seasons. That’s why you don’t draft there. Fill positional needs in FA.
Picks in that range are usually in demand. We got stuck in 2022 because our ancillary picks were 20 and 26. I don’t see them having a problem moving it. What they usually do is field calls, and set up a couple of potential deals so that at least one of the possible trade partners has someone on the board that they like when they go on the clock.
Agree, when you look at Spurs trade situation, this draft might be the time to do a move.
First, after this draft, Spurs will have 1 first round pick per draft:;
2026: Best of Spurs and Hawks
2027: Hawks
2028: Best of Spurs and Celtics (top1 protected)
2029: Spurs
2030: Best of Spurs, Mavs and Wolves (top1 protected)
2031: Best of Spurs and Kings
Great picks quality wise but Spurs war chest is now average quan y wise. Spurs aren't in a situation were they can throw a couple of future first round picks without hurting that future. If Spurs start trading these picks, even with protections, they will lose a lot of flexibility because of the Ted Stepien rule.
Right now, I would put Spurs trade assets in 3 tiers:
- Premium assets: Spurs might only trade some of them for, maybe a top 20 player: Wembanyama, #2, Fox and Castle.
- Assets with some value: #14, Vassell, Sochan and maybe Champagnie.
- Assets with little to no value: second round picks, Keldon and expiring contracts(Barnes, Branham and Wesley).
Spurs don't really have that much to offer in trades. #14 and Vassell might be the only ones that Spurs are willing to offer and that are interesting for other teams. Trade value of #14 will be at it's peak on draft night. I'm not sure how Vassell trade value will evolve. Playing more off the ball should help him but he should have less shots per game to put stats and will play out of position at SF.
We have Keldon and Jeremy as regular rotation members right now.
Maybe we get a player who's not ready right away, but as per usual you just over-exaggerate your point for no reason.
How many times do we have to go over it? There's just a few players available.That’s why you don’t draft there. Fill positional needs in FA.
The best UFA is Taurean Prince, ffs.
Naz and Aldama aren't realistic targets because their teams cleared cap space to retain them.
John Collins is my #1 target.
Who else is there in free agency?
We need a starting PF (trade/FA) and a backup PF (minimum contract like Mamu and/or #14 pick).
We won't be ready to contend for a year or two, we can afford to draft and develop a wing we need over that period if someone who's worth developing is available.
I never said #14 would be a starter right away.
It’s not an exaggeration. Guys picked in that range are generally not close to ready. If they were,they’d be picked at 4 and not 14. If you don’t think they’ll be ready for a bit, kick the pick down the road. If we’re not ready to contend, then 2025 shouldn’t be the only FA class we look at. 2026 looks good, both for top tier and secondary guys.
We have two guys with All NBA potential, a budding possible All Star, and a massive guard prospect. We’re past the point where we need to draft projects with a late lottery pick.
Second round picks are actually gold these days….
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