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    Jeremy must embrace a Draymond Green role, hence having him play point last year. His handles, rebounding and finishing must improve.

    He doesn't seem to have the bball IQ-

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    Whoa, I never even thought of that possibility. Could Dallas really do it?
    Zero percent chance that Dallas passes up the opportunity to draft the greatest whiteboy prospect since Luka. In the event that they were interested in Harper, they'd see how much they can pry from the Spurs in a trade down. #2, #14, and their swap back would be the bare minimimum and even that wouldn't be enough.

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    I would be utterly unsurprised if Silver went up to the podium and announced, "With the number 1 pick the Dallas Mavericks select... wait a minute," flips over the card, looks at it again. "They select... Dylan Harper."

    Pandemonium.

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    Don’t really care, and consider it unlikely. Unless Flagg gets injured or falls flat on his face, the award will be his.

    Castle basically won the award because he was the #1 option for like the last 20-25 games. Pray that doesn’t happen for a second straight year, with Dylan this time. . Losing the big guns again would mean another lost season. The media machine REALLY didn’t want Castle to win, and SA to go back to back. They will do anything to keep a 3rd straight award from the Spurs.

    I think Dylan’s mom has his ear more than his father. Just a hunch.
    lioness and male lion. that's my vibe.

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    I would be utterly unsurprised if Silver went up to the podium and announced, "With the number 1 pick the Dallas Mavericks select... wait a minute," flips over the card, looks at it again. "They select... Dylan Harper."

    Pandemonium.
    I'll say it again, Nico won't be able to take that Flagg is the future face of New Balance and will want a Nike player instead.

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    Zero percent chance that Dallas passes up the opportunity to draft the greatest whiteboy prospect since Luka. In the event that they were interested in Harper, they'd see how much they can pry from the Spurs in a trade down. #2, #14, and their swap back would be the bare minimimum and even that wouldn't be enough.
    I wonder who calls who first, Nico or BWright? Like you said though, 0% chance, Adelsons won’t allow it as Cooper should be amazing even if the fit is weird right now. I do think Harper has a decent chance to be a more devastating offensive player down the road but Cooper feels like a sure thing defensively (Marion or Kirilenko possibilities) and projects to at least be a good 2nd tier offensive player.

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    I was All In for the “Tank For Flagg” to all my other tankers we were so damn close I am still a little depressed . But can’t live in the past and I am honestly Extremely Happy we will be getting Harper with the second pick in the draft. If Pop and Mitch don’t screw things up we hopefully will be Playoff bound for the next several years in a row.

    PS - We told you anti tankers this was the best and fastest way to improve our team and we off course were right.

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    PS - We told you anti tankers this was the best and fastest way to improve our team and we off course were right.
    Now go and post that on Wizards/Jazz/Hornets/Netstalk or whatever their forums are.

    It's blind luck and Spurs keep getting lucky.
    They obviously had no plans to tank, we would've most likely made the play-in if Wemby stayed healthy.
    But after Wemby went down, there was no reason to keep competing.

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    It is not luck we are right with the Basketball Gods you are just a non believer. Lol.

    PS. Your going to love Harper

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    I’m totally good with Harper. I moderately care about the 14th pick. If Spurs don’t mortgage their future on Giannis or any other Supermax players and just draft Harper, I’ll be happy.

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    After listening to Holinger and Duncan podcast about the Spurs situation, I am leaned more in favour of trading Castle. The fit isn't there and is more likely than not, never going to be there. If the Spurs go into the season in a 'let us see,' mode, then one of them, namely Castle, trade value dips. It's kinda the best time to trade Castle now. They also said the most obvious choice is to trade Fox, which they won't.

    IMO, personally, it comes down what the Spurs staff is seeing with their shot. I think Fox will return his 3 point shot after recovering from injury. I don't know if Harper will be a plus shooter. Castle plays like Butler out there and he has worked things out.

    Man, it's a good problem the spurs have but stressful. I don't have a pulse what the Spurs will do.

    Fox and Sochan extension.

    Giannis and Durant are on the block.

    Boston situation has really spun the league. I think they might do a fire sale on their vets, who won't be around when Tatum is back.

    These 3 guards the spurs might have has put Vassell in a position I think he won't be suited.

    Orlando will make a move for a shooter.

    Cam Johnson will be dealt.

    Utah gotta do something.

    Dallas will have a log jam down low.

    Pelicans will make moves.

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    After listening to Holinger and Duncan podcast about the Spurs situation, I am leaned more in favour of trading Castle. The fit isn't there and is more likely than not, never going to be there. If the Spurs go into the season in a 'let us see,' mode, then one of them, namely Castle, trade value dips. It's kinda the best time to trade Castle now. They also said the most obvious choice is to trade Fox, which they won't.

    IMO, personally, it comes down what the Spurs staff is seeing with their shot. I think Fox will return his 3 point shot after recovering from injury. I don't know if Harper will be a plus shooter. Castle plays like Butler out there and he has worked things out.

    Man, it's a good problem the spurs have but stressful. I don't have a pulse what the Spurs will do.

    Fox and Sochan extension.

    Giannis and Durant are on the block.

    Boston situation has really spun the league. I think they might do a fire sale on their vets, who won't be around when Tatum is back.

    These 3 guards the spurs might have has put Vassell in a position I think he won't be suited.

    Orlando will make a move for a shooter.

    Cam Johnson will be dealt.

    Utah gotta do something.

    Dallas will have a log jam down low.

    Pelicans will make moves.
    If you are the GM, what is the Castle trade you would be looking for?

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    After listening to Holinger and Duncan podcast about the Spurs situation, I am leaned more in favour of trading Castle. The fit isn't there and is more likely than not, never going to be there. If the Spurs go into the season in a 'let us see,' mode, then one of them, namely Castle, trade value dips. It's kinda the best time to trade Castle now. They also said the most obvious choice is to trade Fox, which they won't.

    IMO, personally, it comes down what the Spurs staff is seeing with their shot. I think Fox will return his 3 point shot after recovering from injury. I don't know if Harper will be a plus shooter. Castle plays like Butler out there and he has worked things out.

    Man, it's a good problem the spurs have but stressful. I don't have a pulse what the Spurs will do.

    Fox and Sochan extension.

    Giannis and Durant are on the block.

    Boston situation has really spun the league. I think they might do a fire sale on their vets, who won't be around when Tatum is back.

    These 3 guards the spurs might have has put Vassell in a position I think he won't be suited.

    Orlando will make a move for a shooter.

    Cam Johnson will be dealt.

    Utah gotta do something.

    Dallas will have a log jam down low.

    Pelicans will make moves.
    They tried to cover everything in that. Personally, I think there are going to be several trades that surprise this summer due to the cba. I have no idea if we'll be involved, but I expect it to be wild.

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    If you are the GM, what is the Castle trade you would be looking for?
    I wouldn’t trade Castle - that said, it would be funny at some level to trade #4 Castle for #1 Risacher plus extra. Spurs need a shooter / small forward, and Hawks will need a point when Young demands a trade. Maybe throw in Sochan for Daniels or something.

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    I wouldn’t trade Castle - that said, it would be funny at some level to trade #4 Castle for #1 Risacher plus extra. Spurs need a shooter / small forward, and Hawks will need a point when Young demands a trade. Maybe throw in Sochan for Daniels or something.
    Hawks will likely never trade with us again, after getting fleeced.

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    Nate Duncan is a smart cap guy but he tends to be pretty lousy at the draft/talent evaluation. He gets himself in trouble, in a similar way to Givony when he starts speculating about trades/free agency.

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    I wouldn’t trade Castle - that said, it would be funny at some level to trade #4 Castle for #1 Risacher plus extra. Spurs need a shooter / small forward, and Hawks will need a point when Young demands a trade. Maybe throw in Sochan for Daniels or something.
    Completely different topic, but same vibes... saw on Reddit someone suggesting we should try to trade for Buzelis. My internal mental reaction was "bruh, we had our chance... that ship has sailed into the night"

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    Hawks will likely never trade with us again, after getting fleeced.
    Maybe? They passed the buck along to NOP quite nicely to salvage that deal.

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    I'd love to hear what could be had for Castle. The caveat as we all know is that trading Steph after a RotY season would be an extremely un-Spurs like move. I really don't want to see him moved, especially before we see what kind of incremental improvements to his game he can make during the off season. Maybe sit tight for now so we can get some data on Harper in action and year 2 Castle and reassess before trade deadline?

    I believe in the talent and work ethic of Castle, I hope he is willing to see the writing on the wall and reshape his game if the Spurs do indeed draft Harper. The high usage he enjoyed last year won't be as consistently available if Harper is legit and Fox/Wemby are healthy; Castle needs to become a legit defensive stopper that opponents hate playing against and at least develop a decent corner 3 to stick on the team.

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    Hawks will likely never trade with us again, after getting fleeced.
    Sacto and Chicago keep getting fleeced and they still trade with us lol.

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    If you are the GM, what is the Castle trade you would be looking for?
    Oh man. Only for a big fish. Not a side trade on the margins. Like I wouldn't include Castle in a deal for Cam Johnson or Josh Collins, or PJ Washington or something silly like that.

    So I would include Castle in a big deal to help get a big name. Giannis as an example. Bam, Anthony Davis, or Jaren Jackson, or Jaylen Brown. Maybe go as low as Trey Murphy III or Keagan Murry in a much smaller package. Or something like Desmond Bane.


    The best deal would be to get Durant and keep Castle/Harper/Fox. It's the most seamless fit and will give the spurs more time to check out the trio backcourt. And by that stage the answer could be to trade Fox, he might be the odd man out.
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    I liked that Castle went to that shooting specialist in LA to work on his game—and it helped. I hope he turns out to be the next Kawhi (minus Kawhi’s issues). I think he can improve his shot and play the three.

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    I liked that Castle went to that shooting specialist in LA to work on his game—and it helped. I hope he turns out to be the next Kawhi (minus Kawhi’s issues). I think he can improve his shot and play the three.
    Kawhi was given tips before the lockout. When the league resumed, he was a plus shooter. It was an amazing effort. But also Kawhi only needed a small correction. I don't analyse shooting strokes. I can't tell you if Castle shot is proper broken or not.

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    Oh man. Only for a big fish. Not a side trade on the margins. Like I wouldn't include Castle in a deal for Cam Johnson or Josh Collins, or PJ Washington or something silly like that.

    So I would include Castle in a big deal to help get a big name. Giannis as an example. Bam, Anthony Davis, or Jaren Jackson, or Jaylen Brown. Maybe go as low as Trey Murphy III or Keagan Murry in a much smaller package. Or something like Desmond Bane.


    The best deal would be to get Durant and keep Castle/Harper/Fox. It's the most seamless fit and will give the spurs more time to check out the trio backcourt. And by that stage the answer could be to trade Fox, he might be the odd man out.
    I wouldn't trade Keldon for Jaylen Brown and that awful 35% supermax contract much less Steph.

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    One thing Castle has in common with KY is the love of basketball your not going to see him clubbing, spending all Summer playing video games he will be in the gym working hard. I would be very surprised if his shooting numbers do not improve in all categories this upcoming season.

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