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If we were to pull off that kind of deal with Philly, it might be advantageous to include Utah and send them #3 + Keldon for #5 + Collins. It'd be a better range for us to take Bailey or Knueppel too.
Bailey is a high ceiling, high risk kind of pick but who will demand the ball if ever. The Spurs already have Wemby/Dylan/Castle. What they need now are role players “who know” their role in the team, not a lone-wolf. Vassell problem is he needs to reconcile with that fact. Keldon did. SJax had problem with that. I think for that reason I doubt they will try to get Bailey. Spurs need high character role players, Wolf, Fleming, Bryant, Goldin in 2nd round. I like Sorber at 14 a lot, but would he demand the ball? Wolf said on his interview he would do anything the team needs him to do and he has plenty of skills. To curtail his turnover, his role needs to be defined like in the old Pop days, getting called out if a player is out of position or not playing defense or not getting the rebound.
If we were to pull off that kind of deal with Philly, it might be advantageous to include Utah and send them #3 + Keldon for #5 + Collins. It'd be a better range for us to take Bailey or Knueppel too.
Yeah there is actually not much about Wolf that I really like... it's the archetype... which of course is the wrong reason to draft someone. But a skilled, bulky 7 footer who can shoot would pair perfectly with Wemby and a 3-guard lineup.
That doesn't describe Wolf at all. He can't shoot.
You sold me in one post (it helps that its coming from you - one of our most credible draft posters).
Yaxel Gang!
Edit: I see that Yaxel is saying he is 50/50 on whether to stay in the draft or transfer to Michigan. Hmmmm... sounds like he'll need a round 1 promise to stay in the draft.
What do you think about his range? is #14 too rich?
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In that case, I'm already out.
The Wolf Mafia in here keeps talking him up like he can. Last time I fall for that propaganda.
Johni Broome lining up endorsement money.
this is why I'm totally against trading the pick. Players like Sorber, Lendeborg or Coward could instantly crack the rotation and come off the bench. Even a guy like McNeeley. At least one of those will be there if not multiple.
Count me out on the Danny Wolf Pack. What makes him most effective is his ability as a creator. With the Spurs he will not be able to do that. Especially if they pick Harper at 2. If it was Flagg you could talk me into it. He shot 33% from 3 which is good for a big but 59% from the FT line. That scares me big time. Spacing could potentially be an issue with him. He does rebound but doesn’t bring much else on defense. He will be best served on a team that needs an offense engine. With Fox, potentially Harper, Castle and Wemby that is far from needed. None of those guys will be high assist guys but between them creation will be plentiful. Now if the Spurs went wing at 14 and he made it to pick 38 I could see it because I would take him over a Johni Broome, Hansen Yang or Rocco Zikarsky. Probably would take Kalkbrenner over him but he should also be gone. Good chance they could all be gone and then you have to find a big in free agency at that point.
On the flip side I’m definitely down for some Yaxel Lendeborg. Best rebounder in this class. Shot 35% from 3 although it was only 2 attempts per game. Defense is suspect but he is a late bloomer that is still getting better. He puts in the effort and hustles so I wouldn’t worry too much about that.
Still think Maxime Raynaud would be their guy if Sorber is gone though. 34% from 3 on 5.5 attempts per game. He was the offense for Stanford and I suspect the percentages go up with less volume. The French/Wemby/Stanford connection makes to much sense. 20 and 10 can’t go unnoticed. Has on court chemistry with Wemby. Really started playing some phenomenal defense his final 7 games in March. 2.7 blocks per game. Used him on the perimeter and down low. Did a good job of forcing guards/wings to tough spots/shots. I’m not sure what Stanford did to change their Defense over that stretch but they definitely decided to unleash him as a two-way weapon as he continued to average a double-double. His shooting actually went up slightly during this stretch as well. Went up to 36%. So as he was asked to do more defensively his offense only got better. That only shows signs that he is getting better. Another late bloomer that went from swimming to basketball just like Tim Duncan and played 4 years in college. This is going to jump out as a major green flag player for the Spurs front office. Go watch him in that combine game. He is very high IQ. Highest in this class.
He would make even more sense as a trade down candidate when one of those point guards fall to 14. Or the Spurs could trade the pick for a current 6th grader in 2034 lol
This is an amazing troll job. World class
That’s brutal lol but if the Spurs wait until 38 to pick a big that’s the level of prospect they will be looking at.
Wolf would be fine in the Mamu role. he's not a particular good floor stretcher, nor does he do a lot of damage in the post. instead he just plays a face up game in a real point-forward type role. he's not a jokic/sengun type hug where he creates advantages from the post. to me hes like a slow/unathletic franz wagner.
i dont like him at 14
Was thinking about Mamu in the context of getting Harper... and I'm thinking we should bring him back. He'd still be a deep bench, spot rotation guy... but he fits the needed archetype.
Minority opinion, but he'd be surrounded by 4 + defenders that could cover for him on that end and I think that makes him have actual value.
I personally would probably take him in that range for us, but I wouldn't offer him a first round promise because there's a decent chance that Sorber's going to be there and (assuming the foot checks out) I think Sorber's got a chance to be a borderline top 5 defensive center with neutral to plus offensive impact. If I managed to snag 19 and 26/27 from Brooklyn I'm offering him a first round promise for sure. It's hard to peg how much his late development arc affects things - like if he were a normal 20 year old doing what he's doing I'd probably have him top 5-10 but if he's a normal 22 year old he's probably a mid second rounder for me. I tend to put a heavier emphasis on late development, which is why I have both him and Maluach very high, but who knows if that's right - I'm just some random dude watching youtube clips and glancing at spreadsheets when I get bored of my day job.
A Fox-Harper-Castle-Raynaud-Wemby lineup would be ing hilarious. Basically like bizarro Cleveland where you've got 2 7 footers bombing 3s while 3 guards take turns living in the paint. I don't know how much that setup would win but it's something I'd definitely enjoy watching.
This is exactly what they’re building by taking Harper at 2. It will be interesting to see. I can see us running an action a-la Denver with Jokic. Let Wemby get the ball at the top of the key as a threat to shoot, drive or dish to 3 slashing guards
So if Wemby misses (that’s often if we’re being honest) and so does the other 7 footer, it will be up to our guards to box out and rebound? Idk… sounds like a recipe for disaster
3pts are usually longer rebounds, one 7 footer shoots it and the other one crashes the glass.
Measurements and testing numbers are up now on nba.com
https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-anthro
many numbers have already been reported. some are news.
3pts are usually longer rebounds, one 7 footer shoots it and the other one crashes the glass.
With bigs, they are usually good at rebounds or 3 pt shooting, not both. When theyre good at both, it’s either uncommon or they’re a star. If we’re parking our second big at the 3 pt line, it’s because they’re a better 3 pt shooter than they are a rebounder. Then, when wemby shoots, this second big runs to the rim to grab a rebound… problem is, they’re not a great rebounder, nor will our 1-3 players box out effectively enough because of their size.
Fleming's vert numbers disappointed
27 inch standing, 32.5 max. he looked a bit springer than that imo. for reference those are the same numbers filiposwki had last year.
though fleming has the good start with 7'5 wingspan and 9'1 standing reach while coming in at a healthy 230 pounds
Hopefully our coaches can teach our guards box out fundamentals, something they've not done with our bigs.
That still wouldn’t be enough tbh. Size (not just height, but weight, girth) rules above all when it comes to rebounding
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