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    Second round picks are actually gold these days….
    Not as much anymore with the NIL money.

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    There are a lot of players that I'd like on the team in the #10-#20 (or later) range. I'd love a 3&D Wing, 3&D Forward, and a Center.

    My dream draft would be: Trading Vassell and Keldon (and receiving more draft picks in the process)... Harper & Sorber & McNeeley & Fleming (Wolf if Sorber is not available).

    I know they would absolutely NOT draft 4 players in 1 summer but that would just be ideal for me.

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    It’s not an exaggeration. Guys picked in that range are generally not close to ready.
    There's a huge difference between 1 and 3 years of not being ready, that was my point.

    If they were,they’d be picked at 4 and not 14.
    Or maybe they're not picked at #4 because they don't have all-star upside?
    Jazz and Wizards don't need 3-D role players before they get their first and second option.

    If you don’t think they’ll be ready for a bit, kick the pick down the road. If we’re not ready to contend, then 2025 shouldn’t be the only FA class we look at.
    But then you won't be looking at anything other than players who are ready right away.
    What's the difference between using a #14 now to select a player who can be a legit starter in 27-28 season compared to picking someone who's supposed to be ready in 2027 draft?
    We have roster space for both free agents and rookies, we just need to get rid of players who've already proven they won't be good enough long term.

    2026 looks good, both for top tier and secondary guys.
    https://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/_/year/2026

    Better than 2025, but not that good.

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    Great interview. I like the down to earth demeanor, and his desired player comps are spot on for what we need.
    Second here bro!

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    another player, who might be intriguing is Toumani Camara. Spurs might not want to give the #14 pick for him though. but maybe a package? or, what if they ask for Avdija plus Camara? what is the price? #14, a future 1st, Sochan, Keldon?
    I'd do #14 for Camara in a heartbeat

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    I'd do #14 for Camara in a heartbeat
    No way Portland takes that. Camara is one of the best value contracts in the league.

    I think it was Vecenie who said the Blazers might have some interest in Vassell, which could facilitate a Giannis-to-Spurs trade because it could involve the Bucks getting some control over their future drafts back from Portland. But I highly doubt the Blazers value Vassell enough to give up their MIL draft control and Camara.

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    I think it was Vecenie who said the Blazers might have some interest in Vassell
    Interesting, I guess they don't rate Sharpe on Simons?
    I'd honestly do Vassell+Branham for Ayton, just to get rid of Devin's salary.
    Ayton is overpaid a lot, but he'd be an expiring contract and would have to put some effort in if he's to get anything more than a minimum on his next deal.

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    This guy looked at some mock trades with the Spurs acquiring KD. Sochan, Barnes, Keldon, and #14 was one of the suggestions. I think I’d pull the trigger on that one. Depth would be a huge question mark but man that starting 5 would be nasty.

    It will be interesting to see the package Phoenix gets for KD. I don’t see any way he isn’t moved.
    Not at all interested in trading Barnes, especially when he will be critical for games Durant misses.

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    No way Portland takes that. Camara is one of the best value contracts in the league.

    I think it was Vecenie who said the Blazers might have some interest in Vassell, which could facilitate a Giannis-to-Spurs trade because it could involve the Bucks getting some control over their future drafts back from Portland. But I highly doubt the Blazers value Vassell enough to give up their MIL draft control and Camara.
    I agree. Camara is valuable on the court and has a super value contract that makes him even more valuable. If I were POR I wouldn't trade him for #14 either, I was just responding to the suggestion that the Spurs would view #14 as too rich for Camara.

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    Not sure I recall anybody here buzzing about the possibility of acquiring Porzingis. He's got one year remaining at $30M, which is close to Vassell's $27M. How willing is Boston going to be to get off of that payment with the 2nd apron and all it entails. Chicago basically gave Lavine away to get out of his $50M contract. Wondering if there's a way to bring on KP and send out Vassell, the 1.14, and other reasonable considerations. Would need a third team to absorb Vassell.

    Don't know much about KP's status, but that he is struggling in the post-season. Still, a healthy KP on the Spurs would make for an insane one-year rental.

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    Not as much anymore with the NIL money.
    The relationship between the NIL and the draft is interesting to think about. As far as I understand, the theory is that there is some group of players that would have declared for the draft this year but instead went back to college because they were offered enough money to make it worthwhile. Let's say that this is the new normal and repeats itself year after year. In the short term, this would certainly lead to a thinner crop of prospects, especially in the second round, but what happens a few years down the line? Those players that could have declared in 2025 but chose not to are still likely to enter the draft a few years later, right? At that point, they are likely improved players and closer to contributing than they would have been this year. Would this not lead to a deeper crop of players in the second round a few years from now? If so, then seconds might actually increase in value over time. (Sure, there are likely to be some high-risk high-reward players that flame out with additional time in college, but I imagine that the majority of prospects would improve over time.) All of this is just speculation, but I think it's fascinating to project.

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    Not at all interested in trading Barnes, especially when he will be critical for games Durant misses.
    That’s probably the bare minimum offer. I suppose they could explore something with Vassell instead of Barnes.

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    Honestly I would be happy with a lot of the available prospects. I think you can only go wrong with a few. If they went with McNeeley, Asa, Philon… those are the only three guys I’d come away unhappy with the 14th pick.

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    That’s probably the bare minimum offer. I suppose they could explore something with Vassell instead of Barnes.
    Now the Spurs are going to have so many great attackers off the dribble Vassell is useless and a spot up shooter like Barnes is so much more important. I would much much rather move Vassell than Unc for Durant even knowing Vassell is probably going to put up numbers and have everyone saying how stupid the Spurs were after a trade.

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    Honestly I would be happy with a lot of the available prospects. I think you can only go wrong with a few. If they went with McNeeley, Asa, Philon… those are the only three guys I’d come away unhappy with the 14th pick.
    I'd be very happy with McNeely at #14, but I also do think there are several guys that'll be on the board that I'd be happy with.

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    Now the Spurs are going to have so many great attackers off the dribble Vassell is useless and a spot up shooter like Barnes is so much more important. I would much much rather move Vassell than Unc for Durant even knowing Vassell is probably going to put up numbers and have everyone saying how stupid the Spurs were after a trade.
    Whatever he’s doing, I’m sure KD would exceed lol. It’s going on year 6. I’ve seen enough.

    I don’t think this happens and I’m ok with that, but if they don’t make moves in FA/#14 to upgrade at C and SF(shooting) I’d be disappointed. I want to see signs that they’re ready to go for it. I’m hoping this is the last lottery we’re in (with our own picks at least) for the foreseeable future.

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    im fully prepared for 14 to be traded cause they don't want two rookies, even though there's going to be some insane talent available, IE Fleming or Coward, Coward being the perfect fit.

    if they keep it and address a need, perfect.

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    With the assumption that we don't trade this for a vet or future picks I think I've settled on 2 paths i like better than stating at 14.

    1) I'd package it with #38 and see if I could move up a couple spots or

    2) use it to trade back with Brooklyn for #19 + #26

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    I can the spurs going in several different routes with this pick lol ultimately it probably gets traded but you could grab any pressing need the team is lacking

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    With the assumption that we don't trade this for a vet or future picks I think I've settled on 2 paths i like better than stating at 14.

    1) I'd package it with #38 and see if I could move up a couple spots or

    2) use it to trade back with Brooklyn for #19 + #26
    The more picks they make, the more “awkward” it is for them to deal with players on their current roster. I think in terms of that, they usually choose the path of least resistance. I don’t think this FO has it in them to say goodbye to too many players (at least the ones they drafted and kept for several years). Like, they can do away with one a year like they did with Samanic and Lonnie before him, but all at once…? I am skeptical.

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    The more picks they make, the more “awkward” it is for them to deal with players on their current roster. I think in terms of that, they usually choose the path of least resistance. I don’t think this FO has it in them to say goodbye to too many players (at least the ones they drafted and kept for several years). Like, they can do away with one a year like they did with Samanic and Lonnie before him, but all at once…? I am skeptical.
    I don't think they take more than 3, nor do I think they should. I'd prefer to move up, but if they moved back I'd think they'd move #38 for future considerations.

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    Man this 14th pick is really hard to get excited about. Should be some very interesting talent to be had but I fully expect the Spurs to trade off it ala 8th pick last year.

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    With the assumption that we don't trade this for a vet or future picks I think I've settled on 2 paths i like better than stating at 14.

    1) I'd package it with #38 and see if I could move up a couple spots or
    Think Chicago would have any interest in 14+38 for 12?

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    If retained and available, in order I'd select: Sorber, Bryant, Coward, Lendeborg.

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    Think Chicago would have any interest in 14+38 for 12?
    Maybe, it just depends on if their preferred target is off the board when they pick at #12.

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