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This might have been Ron Harper's response to any scenario...
With Castle on a rookie contract and with the tools to develop into a truly elite defensive stopper there is very little out there I'd trade him for. Part of a package to get Cooper Flagg? Yes. Package to get Jokic? Of course. Package to get Giannis? Probably. But you go lower than that and I'm good with what we have.
This might have been Ron Harper's response to any scenario...
Castle is already back at it. Hard to not see the guy's work ethics and dedication. The way he talks and carries himself were enough for me to discern these qualities. I would be shocked if the Spurs give up so early on him without seeing his development arc for at least another 2-3 years. Kirk Goldsberry, a Spurs insider, recently noted how much people inside the organization were raving about his 'intangibles'..
Just listened to the Hollinger and Duncan pod mentioned last page and tidbit I found interesting is Duncan saying Spurs should explore the Giannis trade without #2/Harper being part of it. Essentially empty the chest of draft picks and any players not named Fox/Wemby/Harper. I personally always assumed Harper would have to be part of it because he would become the guy the Bucks could credibly build around going forward.
I'm still not interested in the Giannis path but I will admit if Harper isn't included it is at least a bit more palatable.
draft Harper.
id keep the 14th and get a Colin Coward or Rasheer Fleming but im sure they'll trade it.
sign Brook Lopez . get another 3 and D guy. trade for a Cam Johnson.
maybe sign a veteran third PG for injuries etc.
killed the prime of Terry mings. dude was a 20 point a game guy, big help to David Robinson, then bam, no lift on his jumper and relegated to bench guy.
I was just about to reply to Backhome's comment with this as I saw what you posted in the other thread. Steph's already hard at work, so that is awesome to see. Also, great to read what you said about people inside the organization raving about his intangibles (something that most of us knew/guessed already).
And yes, I definitely would not want Castle traded (even for Giannis) because, knowing his work ethic, I want to see his improvements that he will definitely make during the off-season before I'd even consider it.
What was Ron Harper replying to when he said "Not my choice but we will see June 25"?
Yeah, but we still have their picks, so they can’t tank and rebuild. No sane FA is ever going to go there. Their ownership is cheap as chips. The only way to acquire high end talent for them is the draft. The picks they got from NO were the Laker pick this year, #22, and the less favorable of NO/MIL in 2027, 1-4 protected. Sneaky move by the Pels. If they somehow pull two top 4 picks, they get to keep them both, and ATL gets seconds.
shade of SGA tbh
If Castle can't shoot, he'll struggle on a real team. His true shooting percentage just wasn't good. There is a lot to work on. 'If only he could shoot' is a line we often hear. Most often, they never actually learn to shoot.
the thing is he can shoot. He just has to make his shots at a higher percentage. Huge difference.
Yep. What TBDog said it true in quite a lot of cases, but he doesn't look someone that can't shoot to me. I do think he's got a bit of a feel for shooting the ball. I believe with more repe ion and working on it, he'll get his consistency up and be a good shooter in my opinion. He'll work his ass of on it. It won't be because of a lack of work.
One thing I haven’t really seen mentioned here is that in his twitter he keeps posting Harper trade ideas to Nets as if he really wants him to be a net not a spur.
He said something like Nets has enough Knicks picks to get the job done. One trade proposed was #2 for Cam Johnson + #7 + three future unprotected picks
Would something like that interest anyone?
I'm probably standing pat, but the FO would have to think long and hard about that.
Here's the type of deal that would entice me to trade #2, and this assumes Miami would move Bam:
Heat- Keldon + #14 + #26 + #38 + 2027 atl pick + Wesley + Branham
Brooklyn- Devin + #2
Spurs- Bam + Cam + #8 + 2029 NY pick + 2031 NY pick
Is Ron Harper Sr. coming up with the trade ideas himself, or is he just liking tweets from other people? I'm guessing he's coming up with them. This guy seems like trouble already. Daslicer was right.
If the Spurs do want to draft him, do you think they'll care what RH Sr. thinks?
Anyway, what would those future picks be? From the Nets or Knicks? It'd also depend on who's left there at number 7. I wonder if this is going to deter the Spurs if Ron Harper Sr. doesn't want him there.
Seemed like 20ppg to 6ppg overnight
Dylan was born and raised in New Jersey right? Guess this is where the Nets proposed trades come from. Wish snr was a little more professional but Spurs should look past these things and not let them influence their decisions.
Gross, no thanks
You're not big on Bam huh?
why would the Heat do this??
they are better that any other team in finding decent talent without using picks. some mediocre picks are useless for them.
It's not just shooting though. I love the kid but his percentages at the rim where pretty abysmal. He needs to work on his touch from everywhere
It's been suggested that they were considering moving Bam and going full rebuild. I was operating under that assumption.
I never really thought about this much these days. Have the surgeries really improved that much (I suppose they have), or do you think it's better rehab and nutrition and whatever stuff that happens after the surgery these days. I wonder what has changed the most because I do remember players not coming back from this stuff. I am guessing better treatments and maybe stuff like stem cell therapy might be something that is getting used more too.
Do they still do the microfracture surgeries (I am guessing not as I haven't heard about them mentioned for a long time). I'm assuming there is better alternatives these days. I remember some of the players that got that, a lot of them never really got back to their old level.
I also wonder about achilles injuries. I also can't remember which leg it happened with on Kobe. Not sure if it was age or mileage, but he didn't seem to come back too well after it. I read/saw it mentioned somewhere that with Tatum it was on his non-jumping leg, so that should help in his case (plus advancement in the surgeries themselves). KD seems to have come back from it great too (KD has really come back from some of injuries really well, but then again, maybe there's been a lot of advancement compared to some of the players that got it done years ago).
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Bam's contract is about to turn into something horrific.
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