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    The problem with a Durant trade is the most logical package was Vassell, Johnson/Barnes, 8/9 and 14. What replaces 8/9 that's neither an over or under pay?

    Keep in mind, the Suns (foolishly) don't value the draft and are still trying to "compete", so some far off unprotected 1st or swap rights isn't likely to hold much appeal to them; unless a third team is included to reroute it to so they can add a more immediate asset.

    Moving this over from the Harper thread where it was suggested that Brooklyn would move #8 + 3 firsts + Cam for #2...

    Here's the type of deal that would entice me to trade #2, and this assumes Miami would move Bam:

    Heat- Keldon + #14 + #26 + #38 + 2027 atl pick + Wesley + Branham

    Brooklyn- Devin + #2

    Spurs- Bam + Cam + #8 + 2029 NY pick + 2031 NY pick
    I've thought about something along those lines, but the problem is the Spurs don't need the Nets' late 1sts and I wouldn't think they'd offer light (like top 1) or unprotected of one of their future natural 1sts and even if they did, the Spurs would more than likely just take the bird in the hand (Harper Jr.).

    I've seen Claxton included in another iteration, but this team needs girth in the paint and can't afford another non shooter, especially if Sochan isn't in the trade.

    Where'd this Adebayo rumor come from? He's a pipe dream. He'd be an excellent fit, but the Heat don't re-build and he's their "culture" carrier, which means more than likely a lifer.

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    There are rumblings that the Cavs may find Vassell a desirable replacement for Garland if they move Darius for salary reasons or as part of another trade. That makes me wonder about the possibility of getting Middleton in exchange for Devin. He'd provide more vet leadership, can actually play SF, can shoot, defend and pass, and his contract expires at the end of this upcoming season. He has injury concerns, but if we're seriously talking about running Fox, Harper and Castle anyway, then that's not the biggest concern. They'd need to pick up a bench guard to bolster the roster in case of injury, but that's fine.

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    Middleton literally has no ankles left.

    If Garland rumors are true, maybe something like Devin and Martin to CLE, Garland to DAL, Washington and Gafford to SAS.
    Both DAL and SAS would have to add a FRP, but it would he a good deal for us.

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    Need to start thinking of scenarios of what this roster looks like if/when we don't make any trades other than sending out #14 for future assets (which would be okay)

    I think there is a strong possibility our opening day lineup is

    Fox/Harper
    Castle/Branham
    Vassell/Johnson/Champ
    Barnes/Sochan
    Wemby/???

    So long as they fill in those question marks at backup C, this should still be a solid playoff team. The more I think about it, the more I think the FO will be looking to see what Devin and Jeremy look like with a functional team around them. It will be sink or swim for those two.

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    Need to start thinking of scenarios of what this roster looks like if/when we don't make any trades other than sending out #14 for future assets (which would be okay)

    I think there is a strong possibility our opening day lineup is

    Fox/Harper
    Castle/Branham
    Vassell/Johnson/Champ
    Barnes/Sochan
    Wemby/???

    So long as they fill in those question marks at backup C, this should still be a solid playoff team. The more I think about it, the more I think the FO will be looking to see what Devin and Jeremy look like with a functional team around them. It will be sink or swim for those two.
    Blake Wesley is sad.

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    He'll be there behind Harper in this depth chart, and will probably plan more than Branhim. I'd assume all the guard minutes soaked up by Fox/Castle/Harper

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    Eventually, the Spurs are going to have to transition into a two-star team ala Durant and Westbrook. They have a few years to figure out who those two stars will be, but it feels likely it'll be Wemby and his PF.
    What did you mean by "Wemby and his PF"? Not sure if PF stands for power forward or something else.

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    blake wesley cleared his instagram...

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    blake wesley cleared his instagram...
    He's still under contract for next season, but there's no way the Spurs offer him an extension. He's also prime trade ballast, and probably has more value than a random G-Leaguer.

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    Any other Spurs players clear their social media? When would we hear about the trade?

    Sorry if Wesley is gone, but he’ll probably get more opportunity elsewhere now that we’re getting Harper.

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    One trade idea for the cavs for vassell is a three-way with Mavs. Where Mavs get Garland and send our Martin to Cavs. Spurs get PJ and Gafford. Cavs get Vassell.

    Mavs: Garland
    Spurs: Washington & Gafford
    Cavs: Vassall & Martin.

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    Adding PJ and Gafford would be a dream scenario, especially if all you gotta trade for them is Devin and a first. Those 2 turned the Mavs into a contender and are both only 26. Extend them both and we are a serious playoff team for years to come.

    Fox/Harper
    Castle/Champagnie
    Barnes/Keldon
    Washington/Sochan
    Wemby/Gafford

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    Unless that first is 14, their picks are too valuable to trade for role-players. We're talking about four firsts with swaps, a fifth from a mediocre team on the verge of implosion and two more so far out that the team shouldn't feel comfortable dealing them. Even 14 in a decent draft is really high. Even then, I'd want a second back from each to pay part of the raft of seconds I'd want the Spurs to give up to move back into the first round

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    According to the self proclaimed twitter NBA insider Evan Townsend (I don't think he's a reliable source), Keldon is not getting dealt because he's represented by clutch and clutch is helping the Spurs build the roster around Wemby. Do with that info what you want. He's saying they are more likely to move Devin and Barnes.

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    According to the self proclaimed twitter NBA insider Evan Townsend (I don't think he's a reliable source), Keldon is not getting dealt because he's represented by clutch and clutch is helping the Spurs build the roster around Wemby. Do with that info what you want. He's saying they are more likely to move Devin and Barnes.
    Yeah not sure if that is a reliable source but I believe Klutch sports also represents Mitch Johnson. Makes sense that they would want the Spurs to succeed. I don’t mind keeping Keldon Johnson as #8-9 guy in rotation that brings energy off the bench. He has already accepted the bench role. Are we sure Vassell and Barnes will do the same? I like Barnes because he is one of the better shooters on the team but his rebounding is not very good for someone playing the 4. I like Vassell too but his defense is suspect and I don’t think his trade value will get any higher than now with a reduced role next season.

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    Unless that first is 14, their picks are too valuable to trade for role-players. We're talking about four firsts with swaps, a fifth from a mediocre team on the verge of implosion and two more so far out that the team shouldn't feel comfortable dealing them. Even 14 in a decent draft is really high. Even then, I'd want a second back from each to pay part of the raft of seconds I'd want the Spurs to give up to move back into the first round
    Which trade proposal are you referring to?

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    According to the self proclaimed twitter NBA insider Evan Townsend (I don't think he's a reliable source), Keldon is not getting dealt because he's represented by clutch and clutch is helping the Spurs build the roster around Wemby. Do with that info what you want. He's saying they are more likely to move Devin and Barnes.
    I'm more inclined to believe the locker room leader and family atmopshere theory.
    Anyhow, their client list.

    https://hoopshype.com/reps/rich-paul/

    The only player that would fit our roster and has a reasonable contract is Miles Bridges, but he's a degenerate abuser.

    Yeah not sure if that is a reliable source but I believe Klutch sports also represents Mitch Johnson. Makes sense that they would want the Spurs to succeed. I don’t mind keeping Keldon Johnson as #8-9 guy in rotation that brings energy off the bench. He has already accepted the bench role. Are we sure Vassell and Barnes will do the same? I like Barnes because he is one of the better shooters on the team but his rebounding is not very good for someone playing the 4. I like Vassell too but his defense is suspect and I don’t think his trade value will get any higher than now with a reduced role next season.
    We can't afford to lose Barnes, he was out by far the best shooter this season.

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    Barnes is perfect as a vet for this team. But I can see the Spurs moving him because a 19 million expiring contract has its worth and could bring a better player or some assets back.

    I'm more inclined to believe the locker room leader and family atmopshere theory.
    Anyhow, their client list.

    https://hoopshype.com/reps/rich-paul/

    The only player that would fit our roster and has a reasonable contract is Miles Bridges, but he's a degenerate abuser.
    I just now looked into that as well. It ain't that many players and we really don't need any of them

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    I just looked at that list too. How are they going to help us fill out the roster with those guys?

    I'm curious how long Mitch has been signed with them. I saw it mentioned he was signed with Klutch, but have completely forgotten about it.

    There's only one guy there I'd really want and that's Dereck Lively. We don't need any more guards if the Spurs draft Dylan Harper, so that doesn't leave much. Anthony Davis I'd be very interested in, but not at the amount of years and salary he's at. Gary Trent Jr, I'd also have interest in, but not sure if he strictly plays guard or if he can play SF? If he's a guard only, then that's a no-go there either.

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    I'm more inclined to believe the locker room leader and family atmopshere theory.
    Anyhow, their client list.

    https://hoopshype.com/reps/rich-paul/

    The only player that would fit our roster and has a reasonable contract is Miles Bridges, but he's a degenerate abuser.



    We can't afford to lose Barnes, he was out by far the best shooter this season.
    Second here. cannot trade Barnes.

    Vassel is likely the only one get traded this off season if we do any trade at all.

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    There are rumblings that the Cavs may find Vassell a desirable replacement for Garland if they move Darius for salary reasons or as part of another trade. That makes me wonder about the possibility of getting Middleton in exchange for Devin. He'd provide more vet leadership, can actually play SF, can shoot, defend and pass, and his contract expires at the end of this upcoming season. He has injury concerns, but if we're seriously talking about running Fox, Harper and Castle anyway, then that's not the biggest concern. They'd need to pick up a bench guard to bolster the roster in case of injury, but that's fine.
    Funny, Ive been thinking about a Middleton/6 for Vassell/14 swap myself. Kris on paper fits a position of need. DC really struck out landing at 6, so Vassell would definitely be better than what they could expect there.

    Poole-Dev-Bilal-Sarr could make them more interesting.

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    Middleton is basically done. I think you get 40 games out of him at best.

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    Middleton is basically done. I think you get 40 games out of him at best.
    That’s why you swap 6 and 14, in addition to getting off Dev’s money.

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    That’s why you swap 6 and 14, in addition to getting off Dev’s money.
    Yea, definitely consider 14 for 6 in that scenario

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    All of our trades are based on players, but since a few here think we will flip 14 and/or 38 for future draft capital, what kind of deals do you think are out there?

    I'll start:

    Denver 14 + 38

    SAS 2030 swap + 2031 pick

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