Future Spur: Dylan Harper

[exstatic]

One thing I haven’t really seen mentioned here is that in his twitter he keeps posting Harper trade ideas to Nets as if he really wants him to be a net not a spur.

He said something like Nets has enough Knicks picks to get the job done. One trade proposed was #2 for Cam Johnson + #7 + three future unprotected picks

Would something like that interest anyone?

Nets picks are transplanted Knicks picks,and would likely be crap. I wouldn’t put much stock in Ron’s tweets. Dylan is closer to his mom.

[exstatic]

It's not just shooting though. I love the kid but his percentages at the rim where pretty abysmal. He needs to work on his touch from everywhere

You keep saying this, and it keeps not being true. His percentage 0-3 Ft from the rim is .655.

[Ice009]

You keep saying this, and it keeps not being true. His percentage 0-3 Ft from the rim is .655.

I was going to comment on that, but I wasn't sure of the numbers. I thought I'd read a day or two ago his percentage was really good at the rim.

[exstatic]

I was going to comment on that, but I wasn't sure of the numbers. I thought I'd read a day or two ago his percentage was really good at the rim.

Basketball reference website

[rascal]

Spurs are going to be a fun team to watch. They finally have players who can run out on a break and quickly convert on a fast break off turnovers and long rebounds.
Players who can break down a half court defense with the ability to get to the basket and convert.

I can see Harper, Castle and Fox feeding each other on cuts to the basket.

[CGD]

Bam's contract is about to turn into something horrific.

I’d have to think hard about who has the worst contract between Bam and Spurstalk fave Lauri Markenen.

[RC_Drunkford]

It's been suggested that they were considering moving Bam and going full rebuild. I was operating under that assumption.

Bam's contract would actually fit salary cap wise. The thing is I don't see what would make the Heat trade him to us, if we're not giving up one of Castle/Harper. If we could get him for draft picks and a bunch of role players, you make that deal every time, I just don't think it's realistic.

The way his contract is structured it would allow us to keep Wemby/Castle/Harper/Fox and Bam while being under the tax to add a bench/keep some of our current bench guys.

Giannis 25/26: 57.6 million 26/27: 62.2 million 27/28: 66.8 million (player Option)

Bam 25/26: 37.1 millon 26/27: 51.9 million 27/28: 56.1 million 28/29: 60.2 million (player Option)

I know it's not a huge difference, but that extra wiggle room plus still having Harper and Castle on rookie deals would give you enough ammo to have a deep enough bench. After 2028/29 you can trade Fox to reload and extend Castle. Then see what you can work out with Bam.

[John B]

Spurs are going to be a fun team to watch. They finally have players who can run out on a break and quickly convert on a fast break off turnovers and long rebounds.
Players who can break down a half court defense with the ability to get to the basket and convert.

I can see Harper, Castle and Fox feeding each other on cuts to the basket.

Not to mention all 3 can pass an ally-oop to Wemby with all that cutting.

[sfernald]

Is Ron Harper Sr. coming up with the trade ideas himself, or is he just liking tweets from other people? I'm guessing he's coming up with them. This guy seems like trouble already. Daslicer was right.

If the Spurs do want to draft him, do you think they'll care what RH Sr. thinks?

Anyway, what would those future picks be? From the Nets or Knicks? It'd also depend on who's left there at number 7. I wonder if this is going to deter the Spurs if Ron Harper Sr. doesn't want him there.

If you want to delve into it more there is a YouTube video that goes into more detail:

[mo7888]

Bam's contract would actually fit salary cap wise. The thing is I don't see what would make the Heat trade him to us, if we're not giving up one of Castle/Harper. If we could get him for draft picks and a bunch of role players, you make that deal every time, I just don't think it's realistic.

The way his contract is structured it would allow us to keep Wemby/Castle/Harper/Fox and Bam while being under the tax to add a bench/keep some of our current bench guys.

Giannis 25/26: 57.6 million 26/27: 62.2 million 27/28: 66.8 million (player Option)

Bam 25/26: 37.1 millon 26/27: 51.9 million 27/28: 56.1 million 28/29: 60.2 million (player Option)

I know it's not a huge difference, but that extra wiggle room plus still having Harper and Castle on rookie deals would give you enough ammo to have a deep enough bench. After 2028/29 you can trade Fox to reload and extend Castle. Then see what you can work out with Bam.

I'm not sure they'd want to trade with us either, but if they decide to rebuild it don't see alot of teams beating that offer. Maybe Philly with #3 if Miami is willing to absorb PG?

[sfernald]

One thing to mention about Harper. His stats would be even better, probably 23 pts plus per game, but got a severe flu that made him miss some games and then play some games where he went practically scoreless. Took him quite a while to get back to game shape. Guess he should probably spend more time in polluted creeks to stay healthy.

https://247sports.com/college/rutger...per-243661102/

[Ni-G]

Another nice overview of Dylan and his potential fit on Spurs team. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_OV3CHT9jU

[scottspurs]

Harper also played through a high ankle sprain in January that eventually caused him to miss a game.

[dn0774]

One thing to mention about Harper. His stats would be even better, probably 23 pts plus per game, but got a severe flu that made him miss some games and then play some games where he went practically scoreless. Took him quite a while to get back to game shape. Guess he should probably spend more time in polluted creeks to stay healthy.

https://247sports.com/college/rutger...per-243661102/

Wonder how he is with the dreaded cedar allergies. Him and Wemby gonna be the sniffle brothers every year?

[dn0774]

Harper also played through a high ankle sprain in January that eventually caused him to miss a game.

Yea overall he played like 4 or 5 games where he probably should've sat and rested. In an 82 game NBA season that kind of thing doesn't impact the averages too much but when you play 29 games in a college season it certainly does.

[Leetonidas]

You keep saying this, and it keeps not being true. His percentage 0-3 Ft from the rim is .655.

Good call. I think the data I was remembering was in the paint but not in the restricted area

[exstatic]

Good call. I think the data I was remembering was in the paint but not in the restricted area

I’ll readily admit his float game isn’t there yet, but not a lot of rookies come in with that game ready.

[RC_Drunkford]

I'm not sure they'd want to trade with us either, but if they decide to rebuild it don't see alot of teams beating that offer. Maybe Philly with #3 if Miami is willing to absorb PG?

I mean we are fleecing the Heat in your trade proposal. I wouldn't even trade #2 to Brooklyn if that was the case. Draft Harper and get Bam. I'd be even willing to send a way heavier pick package to Miami if all we send them is Keldon, Wesley and Branham. I don't even think #14, #38, 2027 ATL, 2029 Spurs unprotected and 2031 Spurs with SAC swap rights would be enough to get him.

The one advantage is that he doesn't fit OKC's or Houston's roster, which means there would be a much lesser bidding war going on.

[LeBowen]

Adebayo? We ran out of ideas, tbh.
I'd rather pay Giannis $70M than Adebayo $35M.

Even if we were to trade for him, it's not happening without Castle or Harper, Riley might be senile at this point, but he's not re ed.

[Ice009]

Adebayo? We ran out of ideas, tbh.
I'd rather pay Giannis $70M than Adebayo $35M.

Even if we were to trade for him, it's not happening without Castle or Harper, Riley might be senile at this point, but he's not re ed.

Yep. Pat Riley won't get fleeced that easily.

[exstatic]

Best case with Bam is that he’s worth about half of that disgusting contract. Worst case is twenty five percent. He’s shown worst case scenario play recently.

[Ice009]

I'm interested in Bam the player, but not at that contract. The NBA salaries suck. There's not many max guys in the league, but lots of players get paid max money that aren't worth that amount.

Guys like TD, Lebron, Kobe, Shaq, they were all worth more than the max. It's insulting to guys like Jokic, Giannis, Shai etc. that other guys get anywhere near the same amount of money.

[shibaspur]

Drafting this kid will bring us one step closer to the beautiful game for sure. Assuming our shooting improves across the board (which is definitely a big ask), our closing lineup can field 3 capable ball handlers (Fox, Castle, Harper), a cutter (Sochan) and Wemby. So freaking excited for this team's future

[sfernald]

Drafting this kid will bring us one step closer to the beautiful game for sure. Assuming our shooting improves across the board (which is definitely a big ask), our closing lineup can field 3 capable ball handlers (Fox, Castle, Harper), a cutter (Sochan) and Wemby. So freaking excited for this team's future

If sochan could ever make threes at a reasonable clip he might be a perfect fit there. Damn not sure he ever will tho tbh.

[OldMan88]

Don’t remember where, but I read that Harper didn’t get called for any offensive charging fouls all season with Rutgers. That’s encouraging if true.

Dallas will certainly pick the “consensus” top prospect, so definitely Flagg unless he drops & Harper is elevated to #1.

Harper will be a good fit for playing with Castle…. No way we should trade Castle. With Fox, our backcourt will be a nightmare for most other teams.