Just trade Devin / keldon etc…for pieces we may need. The core should be fox, harp, castle, wemby
Looking at picking #2 that salary stars around 12 mill first year and the 14th pick is around 5 mill - To me Sober would be a great pick but almost positive he will be gone so I would go with Wolf who played PF and worked with a big Center very well. I think the kid is super smart and plays with passion and can play big PF or back up Wemby in the second unit. To me I think he could get minutes his first year.
If those two are gone I think they will seriously consider Bryant at SF who gives a big who can play defense and not a bad shooter with potential upside. Or go with rising star Coward who has shown he can shoot the 3 ball at a great clip and 7,2 arms can definitely help him defend any SF players.
If those players are gone I think we either trade back with Nets or Utah and maybe grab a center or PF.
finally someone with a brain. The biggest Cancer on team is Keldon. Willing to give Devin one more year. Atleast he can shoot
Late to the party but those saying Luka > Flagg are coping imo. As good as Luka is Flagg will be better in 5 years tbh.
I think there’s no limits on Flagg considering the rate he is improving. Whatever weaknesses he has in college he worked on and now they are strengths. People probably doubted his shooting most of all and he will probably be a 40%+ three point shooter in the league. I would say he has a chance to be the next LeBron if everything pans out. We will see. Very exciting times. Dallas really needs a good point guard for next year. Maybe CP3 should move over there?
Dallas isn’t a contender, even with Fox. Way too thin.
Doubt 40%. He doesn’t have to,though. If he shoots 36-37% on volume, that’s enough to activate his pump fake and drive.
its within his range of outcomes but hard pressed to say thats his expectation/median outcome
is crazy 5-7%?
His dad already trying to exfiltralte him... Could turn ugly.
Source?
His dad is just a bloviator. His mom is who you need to convince. They’re no longer married, and he says his mom, a former D1 player, is his coach.
Meh, it is you who seem to be carried away by the hype machine. Good luck matching or surpassing this ridiculous first 6 seasons start to an NBA career. Doncic is fat, lazy, and most likely "a functional alcoholic", but he is truly generational and an offensive system unto himself..
Exactly, unless you have Flagg pegged as future GOAT..And, yeah I would be melting down and coping hard if we missed out Wemby, but not Flagg..
Fox, Harper, Castle will all 3 be on the floor starting some time this season. I think that is a solid backcourt if Harper and Castle shooting improves.
You fill out the forward and center holes with best fit at 14. I have been big on Fleming and Sorber but after watching lengthy feeds on guys like Raynaud, Wolf, Coward, McNeeley I am liking them too at 14
Good options to be had. Sign or trade reliable vets to fill out the roster in the front court and you have yourself a team heavily favorite to make the playoffs.
Thinking back, teams that over thought high picks by going by need instead of BPA
Portland with Bowie instead of jordan because they already had Clyde. Didn’t work out.
Not really the case but Cavs pick Dougherty #1 instead of bias because of character issues. Boston picked bias #2 and he died of OD that night. So maybe BPA doesn’t work everytime. Worked out for cavs
GSW wanted a big ball handling forward, traded mitch Richmond away for Billy Owen’s at #3. Didn’t work out for GSW at all
Grizzlies got mvpau for shared Abdul Rahul. Clearly won this trade
Danny ferry forced his way out of the clippers and cavs traded Ron Harper for him. Clippers won this one bad.
Clippers traded down from mcdyess for Barry, with Rodney Rogers as the main trade piece. I’d say Denver won this trade.
Clippers chose the kandiman instead of Bibby, Carter or even antawn Jameson. They overthought the Center role and didn treat the BPA despite all the red flags. Stupid move.
Franchise forced his way out of Vancouver for a bunch of loose pieces. Vancouver lost big time.
Detroit chose darko instead of anybody else because they figured he can be molded for the long term. Biggest bust.
Milwaukee and Atlanta picked bogut and Marvin Williams instead of CP3 and Deron Williams because they wanted bigs. Bad move.
Grizzlies (you see this team here a LOT) got thabeet because he’s a big. Could’ve basically gotten anyone after him and have done better but namely harden, Rubio, Evan’s, curry, derozan. Man. Even Jrue holiday who was picked mid teens could’ve been so much better.
Cavs picked Bennett instead of anyone. No idea why they did that. Was a huge shock then if I remembered correctly.
Phoenix and Kings selected Ayton and bagley instead of the slow white European. Dumb move.
Warriors picked wiseman because they wanted an agile big. Nope.
And of course Josh primo. No one knows why.
I’d say most of the time the teams that messed up focused on a few attributes they wanted instead of the BPA.
Now for trading up/down:
Orlando traded webber for anfernee hardaway and 3 more picks. I thought it sort of worked out for both teams
Chicago trading chandler for brand. I think Chicago won this trade slightly.
Utah traded Martell Webster to Portland for Deron Williams. Utah won this trade
Portland traded foye for Roy. Clearly won this trade.
Bucks traded starbury for Jesus shuttlesworth. Trading down and won
Toronto trading Jameson for Carter. So that trade pretty convincingly.
Blazers traded up to get Aldridge. Chicago got tyus Thomas. Won this trade
Dallas traded down(?!?!!) to get Dirk, giving up tractor Taylor. Won this by a landslide.
Nets traded up from Tim Thomas to Keith van horn. Lots of players involved but overall I don’t think anybody won, maybe Philly if I have to choose one.
Boston traded down from 1 to 3 and got Tatum. Philly got Fultz. Filtz’s shoulder was messed up so we’d never know how good hed be if he was healthy but Boston clearly won this one.
Luka for Trae. I’d say Dallas won this one.
Didn’t talk about nephew or kobe as they weren’t really high picks, but I’m most cases, teams who traded up won. Tatum, Carter, Dirk and Allen were the exceptions, but these are huge wins. You can argue penny, but he was injured and I think Webber ended up having the better career.
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Portland drafting Greg Ogden for his height and long-term need for a big man , instead of the tweener Kevin Durant who has the length of a power forward but who cannot guard small. History proved this a catastrophic mistake
The Darko pick continues to be one of the most pivotal moments in NBA history, IMO. How much of the NBA universe changes if DET simply takes any of the other 3 HOFers picked behind him?
I know they wouldn't, just a suggestion lol
Darko could actually play. His problem is that he went to a team ran by Larry Brown. Larry Brown didn't young guys. This is the same guy that wouldn't play Lebron and Melo in the 2004 olympics as much. I didn't know how good Darko was until he was traded and his team was playing Detroit one game. IN that game, he was fuking Sheed up in the 4th quarter. Sometimes teams don't like to develop players and the player ends up crashing out. Also, we must consider that a lot of teams wanted Darko. Denver wanted him and the only thing that saved Kiki was having the 5th pick. Now that you look back on it, it's easy to say, "they screwed up", but only because they had a higher pick. I said last year before the draft, "whomever don't get the first pick in this draft will win" and we obviously got the ROY. People want to look smart after history has played out, ignoring the fact that we all have receipts. The same with the whole Durant/Oden pick. Teams were tanking to get Oden(including the Celtics). When Seattle gets th 2nd pick and Oden doesn't work out, they want to act like they were picking Durant even if they had the first pick.. BS.
Greg Oden was extremely good. He was in the NCAA le game with Mike Conley, Corey Brewer, Joakim Noah, and Al Horford in it, and was far and away the best player.
A while back I read one of Darko's interviews and it was kind of eye opening of how things worked before franchises started taking care of every single detail.
Long story short, he was a poor kid who never had much, suddenly moved halfway across the world and had an incomprehensible amount of money thrown at him.
No advice, no counseling, noone cared about what he does outside of practice and it went as well as expected.
Drinking, partying, buying cars, wasting money, it spiraled out of control and there was no going back.
He could've surely been a solid player, obviously still a bust considering the who was drafted behind him, but Pistons ed up not just by picking him, but not caring about him whatsoever.
Sometimes we take the Spurs way for granted.
Oden was surely a bigger prospect than KD and could've been similar to Admiral if he stayed healthy.
If they have any doubt about that kid trading the pick is the play.
They could get serious assets and still pick a guy they like...
Oden's health issues surely were there far before he ever got to Portland, he had a leg differential and other issues that made him a bigger risk than advertised, it was more about a poor risk evaluation than mishandling his career, much like it happened with Brandon Roy.
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