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    Why would the Wolves get rid of Randle for 2nd round picks or a highly protected first? They just got Randle for KAT in the big trade with NY last year.

    You have to make trade scenarios that make sense for all the teams not just the Spurs.
    Wolves trying to avoid second apron repeater penalties. The player they’ve been trying to get for a while was DiVincenzo. They don’t give a rats ass about Randle. If he opts out or is traded into cap room,it solves their #1 problem,and allows them to keep players like NAW and Naz without complications.

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    Why would the Wolves get rid of Randle for 2nd round picks or a highly protected first? They just got Randle for KAT in the big trade with NY last year.

    You have to make trade scenarios that make sense for all the teams not just the Spurs.
    Because Randle is a disappointment and wolves have to clear a lot of salary. They got rid of KAT for randle because Ronald’s is easier to get rid of. At least that’s how I read it.

    Randle doesn’t have much value on the market is how I see it.

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    Randle would actually fit wemby well with his mid centric bully ball game. I don’t mind having him at $15-$20 million a year, but I’m not sure what that third team would be. Maybe nets is the only one but neither the wolves or us have anything they’d want, unless they actually want vassell.

    If that’s the case:
    Spurs get Randle
    Nets get Vassell
    Wolves get a bunch of second round picks or a highly protected first.

    If jazz is interested they can get a young player and a bunch of SRPs.

    Both jazz and nets have to put in salaries to make the trade work.
    tbh feels like Randle is playing himself into an extension with MIN and a tough decision on keeping Naz.

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    Because Randle is a disappointment and wolves have to clear a lot of salary. They got rid of KAT for randle because Ronald’s is easier to get rid of. At least that’s how I read it.

    Randle doesn’t have much value on the market is how I see it.
    I don't think Randle has been a disappointment at all

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    tbh feels like Randle is playing himself into an extension with MIN and a tough decision on keeping Naz.
    Playoff beer goggles…

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    Because Randle is a disappointment and wolves have to clear a lot of salary. They got rid of KAT for randle because Ronald’s is easier to get rid of. At least that’s how I read it.

    Randle doesn’t have much value on the market is how I see it.
    Randle averaged 25.2 points on 53.3 percent shooting from the field, with 6.6 rebounds, 7.4 assists in 37.6 minutes against the Warriors. He's been key to Minn this season and hasn't been a disappointment.

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    Randle fits Minnie‘s offense better than KAT. They have trouble scoring and his postgame bails them out a lot.

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    TWolves are back in the WCF. They not trading Randal, who outplayed Green, for ing seconds. My god. Reid will go if they have to make the decision. They can stay in the second apron anyway. They have the end of 2 seasons time to get under to stop their pick getting frozen.

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    With Harper being drafted being nearly a given, Castle and Fox to most likely start and Sochan to play good minutes, the Spurs need as many complementary 3 point shooters as they can. Of the three in the rotation as of now - Vassell, Barnes and Keldon.. Vassell is the only one who offers a semblance of decent D and good 3 pt shooting. Barnes was good at spot up shooting from the corners in particular but had among the worst defensive rating in the league. Keldon offers neither - his 3pt shot fell off a cliff and he is still in bottom 15% in defense in the league.

    If the Spurs can trade all three for a PF star who can rebound and shoot threes and then get one more rotation player ( someone said KD plus Royce O'Neale).. then that trade can be considered. But short of that..I would want the Spurs to parlay Keldon (for sure) and Barnes if need be to get a serviceable 3pt or rebounding threat.

    I would think Keldon for Cam Johnson and Barnes plus Branham for Porzingis (provided tests reveal that his recent upper respiratory sickness isnt too serious) with the 14th as a dangle is the way to go.
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    Playoff beer goggles…
    Yeah, sucks to be fooled by… the guy who delivers in the playoffs?

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    & whoever decided to give him that contract!

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    WTF, I put most weight into how a player plays in the playoffs.

    I remember back in the day, doesn't matter how you played in the regular season (pre 2006 or so), if you didn't perform in the playoffs, Pop would give you one more chance and then you're gone.

    I don't understand how it's considered negative that Randle is performing in the playoffs? That's a great thing for the Wolves. Why would you get rid of someone that is performing in the playoffs? Even if he didn't have a great regular season, it's still worth more that he's playing better in the playoffs. At the very least, it's earned him another season to see if he can back it up.

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    Yeah, sucks to be fooled by… the guy who delivers in the playoffs?
    One time? Against LeBron and The Ancient Ones and Steph and The Other Ancient Ones? I guess he’s good at beating up on seniors, anyway.

    He’s no Playoff Jimmy. One decent playoff run shouldn’t cause you to mortgage your future.
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    One time? Against LeBron and The Ancient Ones and Steph and The Other Ancient Ones? I guess he’s good at beating up on seniors, anyway.

    He’s no Playoff Jimmy. One decent playoff run shouldn’t cause you to mortgage your future.
    You're just weird at times.
    One of those people who'd rather dig themselves deeper than admit they were wrong.

    Randle isn't a superstar, but he's a very good player who happens to be a great fit next to Edwards.

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    I would trade Vassel who is a shooter for another shooter whose shot actually goes in.

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    I would trade Vassel who is a shooter for another shooter whose shot actually goes in.
    tbh

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    Brooklyn makes a lot of sense for Dev IMO - they need salaries, can absorb him without sending any salaries back and they need talent, young players as they are still rebuilding.
    Especially if they make a bid for Giannis. Dev, Cam, Giannis begins to look like a competent roster they can build around/upgrade.

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    Playoff beer goggles…
    Better than pre-season beer goggles.

    In any case, I don’t want Randle nor do I think MIN lets him go.

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    Randle averaged 25.2 points on 53.3 percent shooting from the field, with 6.6 rebounds, 7.4 assists in 37.6 minutes against the Warriors. He's been key to Minn this season and hasn't been a disappointment.
    If you want to focus on one single series you are welcomed to do so, but there is no doubt Randle didn’t do well the entire season and the wolves disappointed this year, with Randle getting most of that blame.

    The wolves got real lucky in the playoffs, first facing a lakers team who’s +/- is more like an 8th seed team but somehow miraculously got the third seed, then faced a warriors team that wasn’t all that great to begin with, struggled against it and then have curry go down.

    Wolves have to choose between randle, Reid and NAW. Of the three Randle should be the last priority.

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    You are right, bit of a prisoner of the moment situation, so I'd be a bit iffy on a long-term contract if I was Minnesota. First, I'd like to see how he does the rest of these playoffs. If he picks up his player option, I'd give him another shot if I was Minnesota, but if he underperforms next season, then either trade him or let him go, but like I said, his performance so far has earned him at least another shot. Even though he's played against the Lakers and a Curry-less Warriors, he has still raised his game in the playoffs.

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    Especially if they make a bid for Giannis. Dev, Cam, Giannis begins to look like a competent roster they can build around/upgrade.
    Does BKN already have their own version of Devin Vassell in Cam Thomas?

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    Does BKN already have their own version of Devin Vassell in Cam Thomas?
    Cam is more of an energizer off the bench...or at least that's what he's better suited for.

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    You're just weird at times.
    One of those people who'd rather dig themselves deeper than admit they were wrong.

    Randle isn't a superstar, but he's a very good player who happens to be a great fit next to Edwards.
    You do understand second apron repeater penalties, right? Is Randle, and frankly this TWolves team, good enough to send a FRP to the end of the round, and lock it from tradeability? You guys are all in love with a guy who’s really just Antoine Carr.

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    If you want to focus on one single series you are welcomed to do so, but there is no doubt Randle didn’t do well the entire season and the wolves disappointed this year, with Randle getting most of that blame.

    The wolves got real lucky in the playoffs, first facing a lakers team who’s +/- is more like an 8th seed team but somehow miraculously got the third seed, then faced a warriors team that wasn’t all that great to begin with, struggled against it and then have curry go down.

    Wolves have to choose between randle, Reid and NAW. Of the three Randle should be the last priority.
    Have you actually followed their season?
    They started off slowly, had an adjustment period.
    23-22 at the start of the season.
    6 game winning streak in January, then Randle got injured.
    5-8 without him.
    8 winning streak after he returned, 14 winning streak when he played.
    9-4 to end the season.

    Saying that NAW should be the priority is just dumb and invalidates the entire post.
    Naz and Randle both have arguments over eachother, but NAW is just a bench player.

    Guess who was starting while Randle was out? That's right, Naz Reid.
    Started a total of 17 games this season.
    5 games with 50%+ FG.
    1 with 45-50% FG.
    4 with 40-45% FG.
    7 below 40% FG.

    Naz Reid is a great 6th man, but most of his advantage comes from backup bigs getting ran off the floor due to his range and the ability to attack closeouts.
    He's not that good as a starter.
    20 to 25 million a year is fair value for him.

    You do understand second apron repeater penalties, right? Is Randle, and frankly this TWolves team, good enough to send a FRP to the end of the round, and lock it from tradeability? You guys are all in love with a guy who’s really just Antoine Carr.
    I was the one who's been saying they can't keep everyone even before the KAT trade and even before Dillingham draft deal.
    I'm just saying they'll have to think really hard about who should be the priority.
    Naz isn't worth more than 20 to 25 million a year. Randle 25 to 30.
    Getting rid of Gobert and replacing him with a rim protector with half the salary would be ideal.

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    You do understand second apron repeater penalties, right? Is Randle, and frankly this TWolves team, good enough to send a FRP to the end of the round, and lock it from tradeability? You guys are all in love with a guy who’s really just Antoine Carr.
    Are they over the 2nd tier if they let Naz walk?

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