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    Castle is following him.


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    TBH, Dallas should have considered getting Harper for their current team makeup. The most obvious decision is to trade AD and start the rebuild. But it seems they are dedicated in the win now mode. So drafting Harper or trading down to get Harper, is the most logistical decision. He will be day one starting pg and don't have to sort out a starting quality pg.

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    Castle is following him.

    They’ve followed each other for a while now.

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    Every couple of days I get bored and put on some Dylan Harper breakdown on YouTube. I’ll be devastated if we don’t stick and pick.

    Also, I introduced my 10-year-old son to the 2014 Spurs via the Ring of the Rowel series. He’s not much of a sports fan, but he was really into it. I’ll never respect a championship team as much as that one.

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    Hmmm... I don't like this one bit... Looks like his father is dying to have him be "the guy" on a big market (Brooklyn)...

















    He then tried to backtrack and not be caught offside, but it's clear what he thinks if you read (not so) in between the lines...

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    So what? Ron Harper likes to gab on Twitter. Guarantee you, the Spurs aren’t trading #2 for a bunch of crappy Knicks picks. Ron seems to have that Dejounte’s dad twitter energy, loving his 15 minutes of fame until after the draft when most will unfollow him.

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    Hmmm... I don't like this one bit... Looks like his father is dying to have him be "the guy" on a big market (Brooklyn)...
    Spurs aren't drafting Ron Harper. He wants his son close to home, in NJ.

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    Spurs aren't drafting Ron Harper. He wants his son close to home, in NJ.
    Is he gonna hold out or something?

    Threaten to play in Europe?

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    If Castle can't shoot, he'll struggle on a real team. His true shooting percentage just wasn't good. There is a lot to work on. 'If only he could shoot' is a line we often hear. Most often, they never actually learn to shoot.
    I don't view Castle as most guys. He's a top 5 pick and choose to be a role player in college to win, and already has an elite offensive weapon, being 15th in the NBA in FTr (exclusive of part-time Centers, #27 overall). That alone give him more of a shooting cushion then most guys ever get.

    Cade shot 31% and 29% from 3 his first 2 yrs (76 games), with TS% of 50% and 49%. Castle shot 29% on similar volume with a TS% of 52%.
    Castle improved his TS% every month from Dec to April, and put up 19.3 on .46/.30/.72 in 25 games as the guy.
    Cade put up 17.4 on .42/.31/.85 in 32.6mpg his first 64 games as the guy. Castle was 14.7 on .43/.29/.72 in 26.7mpg in 81 overall with an inconsistent role.

    Really not far off. Cade improved to a .35-.36% shooter, Castle can absolutely get there, especially with the gravity of Wemby/Fox and hopefully Harper. I don't expect Castle to ever be a sharpshooter, but near league average? Yeah.
    Not saying he's Cade, obviously will have a different role, but another top5 guy of similar size who improved. Choosing UConn shows he's fine playing a role and he'll work at it. He's not Sochan or Wesley, his ability to get to the line will give him more space.
    Castle's trade value may be at peak right now, but he's not done improving as a shooter at 20y/o.

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    One thing I like about Castle's shooting is he launches from deep. His range is deep. No toeing the line with him.

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    I don't view Castle as most guys. He's a top 5 pick and choose to be a role player in college to win, and already has an elite offensive weapon, being 15th in the NBA in FTr (exclusive of part-time Centers, #27 overall). That alone give him more of a shooting cushion then most guys ever get.

    Cade shot 31% and 29% from 3 his first 2 yrs (76 games), with TS% of 50% and 49%. Castle shot 29% on similar volume with a TS% of 52%.
    Castle improved his TS% every month from Dec to April, and put up 19.3 on .46/.30/.72 in 25 games as the guy.
    Cade put up 17.4 on .42/.31/.85 in 32.6mpg his first 64 games as the guy. Castle was 14.7 on .43/.29/.72 in 26.7mpg in 81 overall with an inconsistent role.

    Really not far off. Cade improved to a .35-.36% shooter, Castle can absolutely get there, especially with the gravity of Wemby/Fox and hopefully Harper. I don't expect Castle to ever be a sharpshooter, but near league average? Yeah.
    Not saying he's Cade, obviously will have a different role, but another top5 guy of similar size who improved. Choosing UConn shows he's fine playing a role and he'll work at it. He's not Sochan or Wesley, his ability to get to the line will give him more space.
    Castle's trade value may be at peak right now, but he's not done improving as a shooter at 20y/o.
    I am not scout or wannabe scout skills. But what I am reading about Castle shot motion is that it needs a lot of work. Cade had a nice shot coming out of the college. His motion as there. His team was pretty bad when he was drafted and had far less spacing to deal with for a few years at least.

    If Castle is not an on ball player, and the ball is going into Fox and Harpers hands, and of course Wemby, then Castle will more and more be an off ball player. That is what I mean by being on a 'real team.' When you are trying to win, the ball goes into your best players hands. Castle is far down on the pecking order. So he needs to space things out. Think Leonard in his first seasons with the big 3. Slowly he became more and more an on ball player.

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    You're not big on Bam huh?
    Not especially. Guess you're not too high on Harper if you're willing to trade him for a couple of role players, Asa Newell or Jaku, and a couple of picks that won't be as good as this one.

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    Hmmm... I don't like this one bit... Looks like his father is dying to have him be "the guy" on a big market (Brooklyn)...

















    He then tried to backtrack and not be caught offside, but it's clear what he thinks if you read (not so) in between the lines...
    Honestly sounds like he’s just trying to politically correct and not just flat out say that he doesn’t like San Antonio

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    One thing I like about Castle's shooting is he launches from deep. His range is deep. No toeing the line with him.
    This is part of the reason I cant help but laugh when people say Sochan is a better 3 point shooter than Castle. Sochan gets completely wide open, "we dare you to take it" 3 point shots right at the 3 point line and makes 30% of them. Castle's attempts typically have a defender much closer and he even takes plenty of well behind the line 3s and makes 28%. Castle just dialing in his shot selection a little bit would yield a couple % improvement (he also isn't afraid to take end of quarter/half heaves) but the Spurs clearly wanted him to explore the studio space this season so he gunned a bit more than I would expect going forward.

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    Spurs aren't drafting Ron Harper. He wants his son close to home, in NJ.
    Based on hearsay on other boards, his pops isn't considered to be in Dylan's inner circle the way his mom is. The parents have been divorced for quite awhile apparently. Not to say his opinion is irrelevant, but it doesn't sound like a LaVarr Ball situation or anything where he wants his hands on every aspect of his kids careers.

    The fact is when a guy is drafted with a lottery pick, the drafting team gets 4 years (2 + 2 team option) and an extremely advantageous (to the drafting team) rookie extension that virtually all rookie scale players sign (especially those who are max-worthy). Even he who shall not be named played 8 full seasons (7 with Spurs, 1 with Raptors) before he was finally able to get to where he really wanted to be since the beginning (SoCal).

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    Hmmm... I don't like this one bit... Looks like his father is dying to have him be "the guy" on a big market (Brooklyn)...

















    He then tried to backtrack and not be caught offside, but it's clear what he thinks if you read (not so) in between the lines...
    Ron is a bigtime Spurs hater. He said recently the '98 Bulls would have swept or beaten the '99 Spurs in 5 games. I do remember him saying on the day Duncan retired that Duncan wasn't the GOAT PF and Karl Malone was better. I don't know why he carries hate for the Spurs but it's definitely there.

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    Who the cares what Ron Harper has to say and why are y'all talking about it

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    Is he gonna hold out or something?

    Threaten to play in Europe?
    We aren't drafting RON, we are drafting Dylan. Whatever his old man thinks is irrelevant.

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    We have come a long way of Eva Longoria and Selina Gomez in attendance to Ron.

    At least my hands stay above the bedsheet during Spurs coverage now.

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    Man, Ron sounds more like a Spurs hater than someone that is trying to be politically correct (he's trying to be that too as it's not official or anything). Anyway, I hope Ron Harper Sr. doesn't have any say in this and his mom is the one guiding him.

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    Not especially. Guess you're not too high on Harper if you're willing to trade him for a couple of role players, Asa Newell or Jaku, and a couple of picks that won't be as good as this one.
    I don't see Bam as just a role player. Cam is a role player to sweeten the deal. I am pretty high on Harper though, high enough that I'm not sure I'd do the deal, but Bam is good enough and fits well enough that I'd think about it.

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    Ron is a bigtime Spurs hater. He said recently the '98 Bulls would have swept or beaten the '99 Spurs in 5 games. I do remember him saying on the day Duncan retired that Duncan wasn't the GOAT PF and Karl Malone was better. I don't know why he carries hate for the Spurs but it's definitely there.
    Man, Ron sounds more like a Spurs hater than someone that is trying to be politically correct (he's trying to be that too as it's not official or anything). Anyway, I hope Ron Harper Sr. doesn't have any say in this and his mom is the one guiding him.
    Think it has more to do with his relationship with Phil Jackson tbh.

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    Ron is a bigtime Spurs hater. He said recently the '98 Bulls would have swept or beaten the '99 Spurs in 5 games. I do remember him saying on the day Duncan retired that Duncan wasn't the GOAT PF and Karl Malone was better. I don't know why he carries hate for the Spurs but it's definitely there.
    Cut it out. Don't be over sensitive to comments.

    The Spurs are drafting Dylan Harper.

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    Ron Harper Sr bringing the guy at bar has opinions energy.

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