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I see your diabolical plan to eventually own swap rights to EVERY pick in the 2030 draft….
I’d absolutely do that.
Would you send the 2nd pick in round one for Williamson? Salaries to be figured out.
I see your diabolical plan to eventually own swap rights to EVERY pick in the 2030 draft….
I’d absolutely do that.
My bad I missed that. I think that’s a good trade. I’m not a fan of Queen at 6 but you could probably get Maluach there.
I'd be in for an expiring vet like Middleton, even if he only gives you 40 games... but I don't think WAS could really use Devin. Devin is just a fully developed version of what their roster is full of: mid prospects who won't be first options on a winning team. Devin's best value is probably as a bench scoring punch for a playoff team... but not sure that anyone will want to pay his salary to be that. While that is Devin's best value, I do think his best role is as 1a or 1b tank commander... but teams who need a tank commander aren't going to pay positive value for a tank commander - they are in asset acquisition mode not the mode of spending assets.
Sign me in!
Agree Mo.
If the Spurs want to trade 14 then the market price should start at what the wolves paid last year for 8 in a weak draft which is 1 unprotected pick + 1 unprotected swap both out as far as possible.
Desperate teams like Denver will consider.
Maybe even Milwaukee if Giannis wants to stay the Bucks will have available to trade their 2031 unprotected and their 2032 swap will be available by the time the draft rolls around.
Even Golden State might be willing to do it to extend the Curry and Butler window.
I heard an interesting trade idea somewhere. I forgot the details but the bones were something like this.
DAL gets Trae Young
ATL gets #2 and their 26 swap/27 first back from SA
SA gets #1
That's a lot for the Spurs to give up to move up just one spot, and there would have to be matching salaries involved, but there's something in it for everyone. DAL gets to pivot to win-now mode because AD's and Flagg's timelines don't line up at all, ATL gets to properly tank with their picks back in hand and build around Harper, and SA gets a better fit and player in Flagg compared to Harper.
Spurs would need to get Garland in that deal
I don’t think there is a single GM in the league who would trade Cooper Flagg for Trae Young, and especially not one who proclaims to care about defense like Nico does.
That was just the bones of a deal. ATL would have to give up a lot more than just Trae Young considering what they're getting back, and the bulk of that extra value would go to DAL.
It's a throw-some- -at-the-wall idea, but I did find it intriguing. Just something to pass the time on a Sunday afternoon.
Dallas cant absorb 43 mil cap hit Young and more cap hit.
I've probably mentioned an iteration of this in the past, but Porter Jr. and Saric for Vassell, Johnson, 14 or Porter Jr. and Nnaji for Vassell, Barnes, 14.
Obviously, the former would be better for the Spurs, the latter for the Nuggets.
Porter Jr. can be a space cadet, but he'd be an ideal fit. Of course, the Spurs would have to feel confident in his back holding up going forward as well as it has in recent seasons.
Did you really just suggest we include Barnes and a lottery FRP in a trade for Porter?
Just when I forgot you're a re who doesn't think coaching is a factor and that you put half the forum on ignore list.
He’s a terrible fit, due to both space cadetiness and the fact that if his shot isn’t falling, he has nothing else to offer. He has no other basketball skills. If you want that kind of player, just go get Cam Johnson. He has deep playoff (Finals) experience, and costs about $43M over the next two seasons, not $78M. He also hasn’t had multiple back surgeries.
If there is a player they like in THIS draft in light of getting Harper, I’d push for it. For example, now that we have Harper im more bullish on Maluach than I was before when we were looking at 8.
I don't really see potential trade partners in top10 if we're talking reasonable scenarios.
Top8 are all bad and need BPA. We don't have any players we'd like to trade and that would be interesting to bad teams in need of talent.
Raptors at #9 also probably won't trade their pick if there's a rim protector or playmaker they like. Maluach at #9 seems like a given, tbh.
Rockets pick isn't worth discussion because they'll probably trade it for immediate help and it's unlikely we can get into that deal.
Blazers will probably take a swing on a player with highest ceiling, they're well rounded, but need all-star potential.
Bulls and Hawks won't even pick up the phone when they see who's calling.
I've thought about that. The downside is obvious, but the upside would be crazy. Vassel, Wesley, 14th and Williamson might be the offer. Spurs would get worse as far as spacing, but Wembanyama would be the ideal player to play alongside Zion
The Minnesota trade 2.0. Interesting. Denver has far more downside than Minny does with Jokic being 30, Murray's awful contract, and MPJ being overpaid and unreliable. I could see both teams doing that.
Denver needs young and cheap players with upside; the Spurs don't have as big of a need for the 14th pick after landing the second pick. The only hiccup is if the Nuggets believe they can get KD by using that swap and pick.
I didn't even consider a KD trade for Denver. That's a good point...
I could be wrong, but I don’t think he’s talking about 14. He said THE second pick in the first round, not OUR second pick in the first round. I take that to mean #2 overall.
You’re probably right. I just look at a team like WAS (or even BKN) and think how unlucky they got just being out of the Top 5. Are they really going to reach on Queen? That would be terrible.I don't really see potential trade partners in top10 if we're talking reasonable scenarios.
Top8 are all bad and need BPA. We don't have any players we'd like to trade and that would be interesting to bad teams in need of talent.
Raptors at #9 also probably won't trade their pick if there's a rim protector or playmaker they like. Maluach at #9 seems like a given, tbh.
Rockets pick isn't worth discussion because they'll probably trade it for immediate help and it's unlikely we can get into that deal.
Blazers will probably take a swing on a player with highest ceiling, they're well rounded, but need all-star potential.
Bulls and Hawks won't even pick up the phone when they see who's calling.
Their best bet is for Utah to reach for Kon (bc Utah), and for Tre Johnson to slip to them. But failing that I bet a starved franchise would welcome someone like Devin.
It's understandable that this could be confusing. The idea that we'd trade #2 for Williamson is so far out there it literally cracks the brain.
I don't think Houston is interested, the Spurs seem to be unlikely to make a big move. They actually might be the best option.
Oh, I misread that. In that case it's obviously a no.
Back before KD got traded to the Suns, Murray+MPJ for him looked like a no-brainer to me. Nuggets won that season and I looked like an idiot.
But I still think it would've been as good of a move as it gets.
But there's no way Suns take Murray's contract.
Maybe MPJ, salary filler and a FRP.
It's kind of awful for the league that two best players in the league are in the middle of their primes and stuck on awful rosters.
Yeah, they won a ring each, but NBA fans deserve to watch them on teams that have a fair chance of competing.
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