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Not until The Decision Part II.
I'm a bit bored, but wanted to register the crazily non-zero percent chance Nico Harrison turns in a card to Adam Silver saying the Mavericks are taking Dylan Harper number one.
Not until The Decision Part II.
As I mentioned, if they wanted Dylan Harper, wouldn't they at least try and fleece the Spurs into trading for the pick? It would then be up to the Spurs to call the bluff. It could get really complicated if the Mavs actually wanted Harper at number 1.
I think the Spurs like Harper enough to not get fleeced. If Dallas wants Harper, they really can’t trade below us, because we’ll just pick Harper at 2, leaving Dallas with no Flagg and no Harper.
About as much of a chance as the Spurs not drafting Wemby two years ago..
What I'm saying is, if Dallas really wants Harper (like really wants him over Cooper, which I don't think is the case), they can pick him number 1, but then the Spurs get Cooper for free at number two, so if I'm Dallas, I'm trying to trade that pick to the Spurs and get something extra out of the Spurs. If you're the Spurs and want Flagg, you have to call the bluff because then Dallas can just turn around and change their mind and take Flagg anyway, so then the Spurs miss out on Flagg (this is if Dallas are about 50/50 on the two and would go with Harper if the Spurs added something to it).
I also think it's more likely that Dallas might want Giannis over Flagg or Harper, but that is just me going off of Nico's wanting to win now philosophy after he traded Luka for Anthony Davis (trying to shore up the defense). He may have changed his mind on that strategy after winning the number 1 pick, though.
If Dallas even makes that call then we absolutely know they prefer Harper. Would we throw in some small asset to help the deal? Maybe, but it wouldn't be much because we know who they want.
Vassell + 2 for the 1 pick!
Manifesting! Not happening but like you said non 0% chance and I like it. If the mavs call I’m telling them they can have their pick swap back for the 1st pick. If that’s not enough they can go F themselves and draft Harper #1 if they want him that bad.
I'm good with Harper. I think that skill set does well in the playoffs.
The Mavs seem to want to win right away (one or two years). Winning the first pick is quite unexpected for them, but also rather upsetting for their first pick ("not me, not me!"), whatever it may be.
Neither Flagg nor Harper nor anyone else would want to be drafted so high to end up having the same role as Risacher this year in Atlanta. Especially regarding Flagg who everyone promises to be a future franchise player. Flagg can certainly push for a deal to be made, but Dallas may just as well feel that having Flagg come off the bench or play 25 minutes as a third or fourth option on a team expected to play for the le, and therefore have no interest in trading anything.
Unless something could be possible in a three-way trade to acquire Giannis for them. But is this even possible? And would the Spurs benefit from Flagg then? Very unlikely, especially in the same division. Still, everyone has an interest in studying this...
Strange and unexpected things can still happen... You never know... Like seeing Jordan Poole arriving in Dallas and Washington picking up Flagg... The Spurs, um...
Dallas would have to call us, and doing so tips their hand.
If Dallas does this, we’ve lost nothing, since that’s our current position. If Dallas really wants Harper, this would be dumb, because we’d end up with him.
pretty much
I think the Spurs would be thrilled to draft Harper with the 3-guard offense fitting Wemby’s game well. But they won’t refuse a generational talent like Flagg if the opportunity presents itself. Somebody suggested to include Vassell + #2 but not much more because they would know Mavs prefer Harper over Flagg for better fit.
Harper's ceiling might be higher than Flagg tbh.
Flagg might be overhype due to him being a white american. The golden boy "made in USA". Media is not happy with the international players (Jokic, Giannis, Wemby, SGA) being the face of the nba
It's a shame the NBA wanted to reward Dallas for the Luka ordeal. Flagg would've been a seamless and much-needed fit on this current roster. He, Wemby, Castle, and Fox would've been a great core for years to come. What could've been tbh. For shame.
I edited my post just after posting. A call could still mean they're 50/50 between the two and it might take the Spurs adding something to sway them over to Harper. This is what I am getting at. If the Spurs really wanted Flagg and Dallas is 50/50, it might take the Spurs giving up something for Dallas to pass on Cooper and go for Harper.
For example, Dallas might be happier to take Harper + something extra if the Spurs added something (pick, pick swap back, player/s), if not, they just take Flagg instead if they don't get anything extra by taking Harper.
Part of me thinks that Harper is going to be the better player in the long run but both got what it takes to become franchise type players
2, 14 and the ‘27 Atlanta pick for #1
This thread is a little short of any semblance of reality. Dallas will pick whoever they want with #1. That’s it. The only thing that could remotely impact the decision is if Nico is under ownership pressure to take Flagg, but Nico wants someone else and needs additional assets to sell his choice to ownership without getting canned.
I wouldn’t complain as much. I think the Spurs was also beneficiary of the NBA rigged system, deciding to place the future face of the NBA Wemby to the Spurs as the best organization who will be patient and diligent, and not mishandle his development.It's a shame the NBA wanted to reward Dallas for the Luka ordeal. Flagg would've been a seamless and much-needed fit on this current roster. He, Wemby, Castle, and Fox would've been a great core for years to come. What could've been tbh. For shame.
If Mavs contact the Spurs for a possible swap, it’s a tell not to overpay.
This. They’re literally showing their hand to us.
cant believe the NBA tore Kyrie's ACL to facilitate this
No Harper won't be better than Flagg, and Dallas doesn't want Harper.
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