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Sorber is expected to make a full recovery.
You draft Sorber if he is on the board at 14 over Raynaud
No spurs need a big who defends the paint and rebounds.Especially when wemby is on the bench resting or
siting out games.It turns into chaos for us with no big who defends the paint and rebounds.
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Sorber is expected to make a full recovery.
You draft Sorber if he is on the board at 14 over Raynaud
Raynaud was one of the best rebounders in the country. Only Yaxel Lendeborg graded out better in rebounding analytics wise. He was 2nd in the entire country in Double-Doubles. He is an elite rebounder that understands positioning. Very high IQ and great fundamentals. The concerns about his shot blocking are legit but he averaged 2.7 blocks per game over his final 7. Criticizing his rebounding though makes no sense whatsoever though. That’s the strength of his game. That and his shooting/ability to space the floor.
Anyone that can rebound like him at over 7-foot will play 10 years in the NBA. Spurs biggest weakness is rebounding. Spurs were one of the top shot blocking teams in the nba. They dont necessarily need another shot blocker. That would only be a luxury
sheesh lendeborg would fit nicely with wemby.
7 footer vs 6’9. Raynaud can also play a backup center.
I mean Raynaud is not my 1st choice at 14. But given he’s French and Wemby’s chess buddy, and he checks all the boxes. There is a good argument he could be Spurs pick at 14 or trade down to get him.
He might even be there with the 38th pick.
You guys are over valuing him because he's Wemby's chess buddy.
Harmony is priceless
That 2014 Team
uva bench consolidated by good friends Manu, Diaw and Mills
Harmony is everything
Manu and Diaw had extreme skill and talent. Patty was decent too, but if it was three Patty's out there, then they don't go anywhere. The caliber of players matters.
Coffee Gang >>>> Power of Friendship
Maybe the chess gang will destroy what ever the power of friendship is. Can someone explain that one to me? Also Raynaud is not making it to pick 38. Late blooming riser that averaged 20 and 10. If Spurs pass on him I expect the thunder to pick him with one of their two firsts. He won’t make it out of the 1st round regardless. 28.7% rebound rate is a rare trait.
Rebound % is a good indicator of who the best rebounders are. There is a 73% translate rate from college to pros. Meaning there is a good chance if a player is a good rebounder in college he will replicate it in the pros. Here are the top guys in this draft class
Offensive rebound %
- Khaman Maluach- 16.5
- Johni Broome- 14.1
- Asa Newell- 13.9
- Alex Condon - 12.5
- Yaxel Lendeborg- 11.6
11% is usually the threshold that translates to the pros and these are the only 5 prospects that met that mark
Defensive Rebound %
- Maxime Raynaud-28.7
- Nique Clifford- 26.0
- Johni Broome- 26.0
- Danny Wolf- 25.0
- Yaxel Lendeborg- 24.9
- Derik Queen- 24.6
- Collin Murray-Boyles- 23.8
- Rasheer Fleming- 22.8
- Thomas Sorber- 21.9
- Cooper Flagg- 21.2
- Trevon Brazile-20.3
- Alex Condon- 19.3
- Khaman Maluach- 19.2
- Liam Mcneely- 18.7
- Ryan Kalkbrenner-18.4
- Carter Bryant- 17.8
- Ace Bailey-17.5
- Vladislav Goldin- 17.4
- Coleman Hawkins- 17.4
- Cedric Coward-17.2
Typically 17% is acceptable/above average. 20% is good. 23% is great. Anything above 26% is elite
Total rebound %
- Johni Broome- 20.2
- Maxime Raynaud-18.8
- Yaxel Lendeborg- 18.1
- Khaman Maluach- 18.0
- Danny Wolf- 17.7
- Derik Queen- 16.9
- Nique Clifford- 16.4
- Collin Murray-Boyles- 16.3
- Thomas Sorber- 15.6
- Rasheer Fleming- 15.3
+15% is usually the threshold translates translates to a college player being a good all around rebounder in the NBA and these only 10 prospects that meet that threshold
For once rascal and I agree. It's actually the only reason this thread exists at all. OP saw the chess thing in the news and decided to throw some against the wall hoping it would stick
Thank you ScottSpurs!
I'm on board now. Draft him, even at #14, if trade down is not possible.
And who among these can play stretch big, which is the ideal fit with the current Spurs roster.
Again Raynaud checks many boxes.
I'd love to have Raynaud, but #14 is a little high. If they really want him maybe trade back with Brooklyn and take Raynaud + Powell and trade #38 for future assets.
I agree with anyone that says it’s a reach and if they got him in a trade back that would be preferable. Like someone said above I’m just throwing against the wall or whatever but the connecting dots are strong.
Absolutely too high at #14. We have an army of SRPs though, that can be used to trade up with in the late first round, early second if he’s there.
This is the approach that I like. If you give up 14 and try to move back you run the risk of someone else taking him before you and you end up without 14. On the other hand, what are the odds these Spurs are going to bring three rooks into camp?
I'd prefer they just pick at #38 as opposed to moving up. I dont tend to count the SRPs as true rookies honestly, but more projects for Austin.
I wouldnt be mad if they did the Minnesota special this year too, but I'm increasingly of the mind they can get a really good player at 14. There are some players in that range in this draft that would have easily gone #6 (Salaun) last year, maybe even at #5 (Holland). The Spurs also need bargain depth, and it does finally feel that players like Devin, Keldon, Maliki, and Blake, are not long for this team.
I'm convinced, let's draft him at #2 Harper is a bad fit anyway
In all seriousness, this pick would be perfectly fine at 38. If the Spurs go ahead and pick at 2 and 14 they won't trade back up into the first for another player. They will wait until 38 or trade the 38th pick. If he is still there it's actually a pretty safe bet this kid will be the player.
can someone make the argument as to why the spurs should draft Maxime Raynaud over a player like Ryan Kalkbrenner, without relying on the french connection.
Understanding these are "highlights" and should be taken w a grain of sault, Raynaud seems to move smoother and more natural w the ball, and looks to let it fly from 3 more. However, Kalkbrenner just seems bigger and sturdier to better fit the center position. Anybody more familiar with their games have any different perspectives?
Wemby tbh
What's the logic in trading back to get two weaker players than who you can get at 14 just to target Raynaud who you can likely just draft him at 38?
If he's not there at 38, so what, you still have the player/better draft pick at 14.
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