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Guess I wasn't clear, I am saying hang onto 14. If you feel like Raynaud will go higher than 38 and you want him, trade 38 and some other future second rounders to move up where you think you need to be.
It really just comes down to how the Spurs value him. I value him in the late 20's.
Guess I wasn't clear, I am saying hang onto 14. If you feel like Raynaud will go higher than 38 and you want him, trade 38 and some other future second rounders to move up where you think you need to be.
Kevin O'conner has him as a riser in the draft after the colombine. Thinks he's a top 15 talnet. Right now thinks he's a 1st round pick for sure, maybe 20s right now.
He doesn't get talked about enough. Probably because he's not Wemby's friend. I see him in the same tier as Raynaud and would be fine with either of them, which is another reason why you don't pick Raynaud at 14, cause Kalkbrenner will most likely go 28-32
Raynaud is not going to be there at 38. His pulling out of day 2 at the combine has some draft analysts saying that this is because he must have received a 1st round promise from one or more teams.
KOC is often a good barometer of what is not going to happen. But in fairness I'm just getting up to speed on Max...
Yes. Draft Fleming and Raynaud.
Trade Keldon or Vassel to Get John Collins
Sign a vet center like Steven Adams as back-up 5.
Sign a cheap shooter with min.
We will be all set. This off season is fun and yet easy!
I wonder with him and Wemby being friends and sharing an agent if a team made a promise to Raynaud would that info get back to the Spurs and they could trade up (from 2nd round) or back (from 14) to snipe him with a better value pick.
I really want Broome. Our biggest weakness is our classwork. Broome has proven to be Windex in college.
That would only leave consistent perimeter shooting asourother main weakness.
on another note, if serious discussions had been had w wemby about considering maxime @ 14, you would think advice would be given to keep a lower profile of the two.
I guess it will, coz the promise probably is from the team with pick #14.
At this point I wouldn't blame them, if they take him at #14. He is a great fit and should somewhat make sure, Wemby is happy, while not being Thiannis.
Get him + Adams.
The only reason this thread exists is his combine days.
Yeah this time last year we all saw those pics of Wemby with Salaun at the lake and maybe CHA sniped him at #6 before SA's #8 but I could see that being the Bilal special where Wemby helps a friend get paid via exposure more than the Spurs ever actually wanting the player.
But I like Raynaud. Twin Eiffels. Not sure about it at #14 and agree he may not last past 20s certainly not #38. I liked the idea of trying to jump up in a trade with #38 + etc more than splitting down from #14 via trade.
Kalkbrenner would be a great pick up at 38.
Raynaud at 14 is a bit early but he has the ability to generate his own shot on a team where he was the focal point of that Stanford team. He won't have the level of attention if we pick him up and I think he could do more with a lesser role.
The difference that stands out between the two right off the bat.
I'm down. Fills a need and has interesting traits that are rare for a big.
The thing about Raynaud is that he is a known commodity at this point. At his age the chances of him developing into more than what he is now is slim (statistically speaking). Obviously he can do little things to improve, but he's a high floor/low ceiling guy. People making a big deal about his highlights this year need to remember he's playing against kids and a lot of them were 3-4 years younger than him; he should be dominating them. I feel like the same people on here getting excited about him on here are the same ones that want us to draft Fleming. They're excited about a guy dominating younger/less developed players but I don't think either Raynaud or Fleming would have looked nearly as good if they had been playing in the G-league last year. The question we have here is do we use 14 to swing for the fences and take a high upside guy with bust potential or play it safe and get a player who has already developed in college?
I disagree! He picked up a basketball later than most because he was a swimmer. He is a late bloomer and can definitely improve more than your average 4-year senior. Same for Yaxel Lendeborg. If he had been playing basketball since he was a youth it would be a different story. Case in point 1a Tim Duncan. Another guy that was a late bloomer that picked up basketball later than most was Hakeem Olajuwon. I’m not saying Raynaud will be as good as those guys but plenty of older prospects improve once they arrive to the NBA.
Where have I heard that one before...
Kind of intrigued by the idea of grabbing both Raynaud and Sorber, and bringing them aboard as a tandem where they can grind on each other 24x7, in much the same way I want see Castle and Harper develop. It's feasible if say dealing the #14 and #38 to Brooklyn for #19 and #26 (Seems natural for Brooklyn to do at least a little upward consolidation, right?). ...chances of getting both with #19 and #26 may be dwindling, I know.
Followup thought: it's a tall order (Well, now the pun is intended) to onboard three rookies in one season, but I feel it, the message that now is the time to stuff this roster to the gills with young talent and develop it. It might be bumpy in November and December, but my current expectations are that the Spurs will legit finish top-6 this upcoming season and every single media mouth will be talking about the Spurs are the one team nobody wants to face in the playoffs. Pretty sure I'm not wrong.
I could live with Raynaud at 14, but, really wonder if this will be a case of the Spurs taking advantage of his stock rising and grabbing another player.
The idea of adding another 7'+ player who shoots the 3 well is intriguing with 3 guards who excel at getting to the rim. Atlanta might grab him, too.
Essengue, Bryant and Raynaud seem like strong possibilities in the 12 -16 range.
I think spurs should either draft a center at #38 or maybe try to move up 10 or so spots with a couple of our ‘26 seconds and take one of sorber/wolf/raynaud/kalkbrenner/beringer/condon/yang.
One of those dudes will be left at #38 and if we move up a bit we might have one of the good picks of the litter.
i have no idea which would be best. I would completely trust our scouting dept on this one honestly.
Most mocks have Sorber going in the late teens. I’m thinking he’ll be off the board before 19. If the Spurs really want him they would probably have to reach a little with 14
Raynaud at 14 would be a pretty sizable reach imo. But he's also not making it to the 2nd Round, so the Spurs will have a tough decision to make there.
Yeah most likely but I’ve seen a few mocks that have him (or wolf) at the bottom of the first round and with the injury he is a potential drop case.
Being tall, French, and friends with Wemby is a recipe for FRP millions. Wemby should get a cut of all these guy's contracts.
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