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Why is everyone advocating taking a guy likely to go in the second round with our 14 pick? Makes no sense.
Nobody puts up the same numbers from college to the pros. The most transferable stat has always been rebounding. He is not a stiff like Edey. He moves incredibly well for his size. He may be weak but has tremendous fundamentals and high IQ. Half the battle when it comes to rebounding is knowing how and where to position yourself. He ran faster than Cooper Flagg at the combine if you want to call him slow
Why is everyone advocating taking a guy likely to go in the second round with our 14 pick? Makes no sense.
How are you sure he would go in the 2nd round? What makes you think this?
BECAUSE HE PLAYS CHESS. WITH VIC.
Because some people are beleiving he's worth the players who are mocked around 14.
He's not likely to go in the lottery
He averaged 20 and 10 in the ACC. Show me another player that did that. You will have to go back to Rasheed Wallace and Tim Duncan. His tape was good not great. He also plays chess with Wemby
I agree with that. For the record I don’t think he should be the Spurs pick. I just don’t think it’s a massive reach
USA Today: not mocked in the 1st round
Bleacher Report: mocked at 29
ESPN: mocked at 24
Yahoo: mocked at 23
Tankathon: mocked at 27
CBS: 28th on their latest big board
Maybe things change between now and the draft, or maybe NBA teams are much higher than all of the draft “experts” out there…but as of now I don’t see how you can argue that taking Raynaud at 14 wouldn’t be a fairly big reach. It just seems extremely likely he will still be there in the 20s.
Then what are you arguing about if you don't think he should be the Spurs pick at 14? It's not a massive reach? But still a reach which is not the best move.
Spurs need to maximise the best move for that 14th pick.
Yes, I’m arguing that it’s not a massive reach. With so many guards on the spurs roster there is a good chance they will have to reach at 14. The top player on the spurs board at 14 may be a guard.
- Only player in the country averaging more than 20 points and 10 rebounds per game. First major conference player to average 20 & 10 with more than 50 made threes in a season since Kevin Durant in 2006-07 and Carmelo Anthony in 2002-03
- Ended season second in NCAA history in single-season 3-pointers by a player over 7-feet (67), trailing only Arizona’s Lauri Markkanen (69, 2016-17)
- Finished second nationally with 25 double-doubles, led all major conference players. Just the fifth high major player in the past five years to have at least 25
I get what you're saying, and maybe he has some additional room to grow, but both Tim and Dream were dominant forces in college already and that domination carried over into the pros. He's not a bad player, and I wouldn't be upset with us drafting him at 14 (although it is a reach), but I don't think he has the potential to be much more than he is right now, a flawed player that can be fit into a system as a regular starter. The question is do you want to spend the 14th pick on that?
It would be a bit of a reach but I’m pounding the table for rebounding so if Sorber is gone it’s between him, Asa Newell and Yaxel Lendeborg. I would be okay with any of those 3. Would also be okay with Fleming but im starting to get the vibe that teams think he is a low IQ player that doesn’t quite get it.
They could also get rebounding from the wing position though if they drafted Coward, Clifford or Mcneely but I prefer a big.
I'm with you. Personally I'm team Sorber. But I'm just not high on guys who are juniors or seniors without a ton of room to grow. I'd rather gamble on upside.
That’s fair and history says Brian Wright will agree with you. I don’t believe he was the GM last time we drafted an older prospect (Derek White). It’s been all teenagers
I'll say this about Maxine: I like him more than Wolf
We need a big. One we can develop alongside Wemby. It's looking more and more like we're going to run a three guard set with Fox being the starter and Castle, Harper, and Vassell all being bigger guards in the rotation. If we don't get any wings in the draft or free agency it's not the end of the world, but we really need another floor spacing big to make up for the lack of consistent 3 point shooting from our guards.
someone described Wolf as a 6’11 Kyle Anderson and now I can’t unsee it lol
I've got him #27 overall and in my 7th tier which runs from 22-30
The math says one of the late lottery pick 3&D wings or Sorber will be available @ 14, picking Raynaud there wouldn't feel great. He won't be available @ 38 either, he is getting the 'Wemby Bump' that Salaun got last year by the looks of it. Maybe trade down from 14 into the late 1st round and get Raynaud there while picking up another 1st rounder/compelling swap down the road?
I couldn't remember if he was still under contract at the time of my response.Where is Barnes?
the bottom line is you don't draft a player with bench player potential at 14. You draft somebody who could become a starter.
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