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    Watching Yaxel, Penda, Coward and Powell all go back-to-back like that would be crushing for me. I'd consider Yaxel and Coward at 14 (understanding they might be viewed as reaches) and Penda and Powell are guys I'm hoping somehow slip to 38. Based on this, I'm probably squarely in the camp of trying to trade 14 and 38 for 19 and 26.
    I am all for this as well but I just don't know that the Spurs will take three rookies in the first round unless there's something we don't know about...meaning they are ready to flip some of the role players on this roster that have yet to pan out and start over

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    As weak as this draft is when it comes to stars I have a gut feeling it's going to produce some pretty good role players. Some of these guys at the bottom of the first are going to turn into good bench players that are going to help good teams win.

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    Harper. Coward. Fleming. I'd love that as a draft somehow if tgey could utilize their resources. But yeah, they aren't moving on from Branham or Blake yet, I imagine.

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    Harper. Coward. Fleming. I'd love that as a draft somehow if tgey could utilize their resources. But yeah, they aren't moving on from Branham or Blake yet, I imagine.
    They don’t have to, with CP, McLaughlin, Mamu, and Bassey all ending contracts in July.

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    Harper. Coward. Fleming. I'd love that as a draft somehow if tgey could utilize their resources. But yeah, they aren't moving on from Branham or Blake yet, I imagine.
    Which is why I'm almost certain they don't take three rookies in the first round. It wouldn't be surprising if they traded 14 to trade down and get future draft capital to keep building.

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    Several guys have withdrawn their names from the draft today but one in particular I really liked was Melvin Council Jr. He was a deep sleeper that is an nba level athlete and probably the best on ball defense from a guard in college basketball. That said you can take him off the board

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    I am all for this as well but I just don't know that the Spurs will take three rookies in the first round unless there's something we don't know about...meaning they are ready to flip some of the role players on this roster that have yet to pan out and start over
    Replacing CP, Branham and Blake with Harper and 2 more rookies seems fine given Branham + Blake aren’t really any better than rookies would be lol

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    I am all for this as well but I just don't know that the Spurs will take three rookies in the first round unless there's something we don't know about...meaning they are ready to flip some of the role players on this roster that have yet to pan out and start over
    I agree. I want three rookies, in reality we'll probably get one. I'll be okay with that too as long as that one is Harper.

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    Replacing CP, Branham and Blake with Harper and 2 more rookies seems fine given Branham + Blake aren’t really any better than rookies would be lol
    Oh I agree with you completely, but is the Spurs. Are they ready to move on from those guys lol. Hard to know what they are thinking right now.

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    Oh I agree with you completely, but is the Spurs. Are they ready to move on from those guys lol. Hard to know what they are thinking right now.
    Im pretty confident those guys will be gone tbh….I think Spurs know plenty about them. I am fine keeping Blake as he seems to work very hard and made tangible improvements but I think CP and Branham are gone IMO

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    Not sure he can make it in the NBA, but Matthews is a tough defensive player.

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    HES WHITE?!?! holy didn’t see that coming

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    Spurs should use all 3 picks to replace the guys who clearly aren’t contributing. They got a few new scouts let’s see if they can hit on these picks. Spurs need the talent. Plus, serviceable talent on rookie deals is a bonus.

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    Wesley and Branham are under contract. It would cost to get rid of them. They're fine as third string guys. They won't be going anywhere this year.

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    Spurs should use all 3 picks to replace the guys who clearly aren’t contributing. They got a few new scouts let’s see if they can hit on these picks. Spurs need the talent. Plus, serviceable talent on rookie deals is a bonus.
    How do you know they have new scouts? Was it mentioned somewhere before?

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    Wesley and Branham are under contract. It would cost to get rid of them. They're fine as third string guys. They won't be going anywhere this year.
    but if they are fine as third string guys for Spurs, they would be finde as third string guys for another team eas well, right?
    Spurs likely will have to many guards for next season, so all it takes is a team, that has to many third string bigs or forwards on their roster and eventually swap one of those.

    my guess is, it will be Branham, because his skill set is definitely obsolete, Wesley would be more useful as Branham, likely in a limited role as a stopper.

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    Wesley and Branham are under contract. It would cost to get rid of them. They're fine as third string guys. They won't be going anywhere this year.
    their contracts are on the books as trade fillers. I expect at least one of them to get moved this offseason.

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    their contracts are on the books as trade fillers. I expect at least one of them to get moved this offseason.
    They very well may be traded. They will not be salary dumped or waived to create roster spots when up to 5 already exist with July ending contracts of CP, McLaughlin, Mamu, Bassey, and Biyambo.

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    I understand the concerns about trading for Giannis but if the bucks are really willing to move Giannis, Spurs are one of the few teams that have the assets to do it. The prospect of potentially have a Fox/Victor/Giannis big 3 is hard to pass on tbh... A team with this core would be dominant on defense and extremely versatile on offense and you have a healthy mix of youth and experience. Salary wise it works fine as Victor has still 2 years cheap. You can imagine Spurs to build a 2 steps plan with a window of 2/3 years to win a championship and then plenty of time to rebuild around Victor by moving Fox and/or Giannis.

    Harper is an amazing prospect but still a prospect, Giannis is a sure thing, you know exactly what you have.

    The more I think about it the more I believe that it would make a lot of sense to go into win now mode as it does not impair the future Victor is only 21, at the end of the short term window with Giannis he won't even be in his prime yet.

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    I understand the concerns about trading for Giannis but if the bucks are really willing to move Giannis, Spurs are one of the few teams that have the assets to do it. The prospect of potentially have a Fox/Victor/Giannis big 3 is hard to pass on tbh... A team with this core would be dominant on defense and extremely versatile on offense and you have a healthy mix of youth and experience. Salary wise it works fine as Victor has still 2 years cheap. You can imagine Spurs to build a 2 steps plan with a window of 2/3 years to win a championship and then plenty of time to rebuild around Victor by moving Fox and/or Giannis.

    Harper is an amazing prospect but still a prospect, Giannis is a sure thing, you know exactly what you have.

    The more I think about it the more I believe that it would make a lot of sense to go into win now mode as it does not impair the future Victor is only 21, at the end of the short term window with Giannis he won't even be in his prime yet.
    Giannis is a short term play. Guys that play that far above the rim don’t tend to last as a high level player. Once he’s gone, the Spurs will be in the exact situation Denver and Milwaukee are now: too good to get a high pick, too cap bound to buy the pieces you need around Wemby.

    The best contract value in the NBA is a high floor, high ceiling top pick. Wemby is making a bit over $13Mnext year, and is legit worth 60. To a lesser extent, Castle and Harper will be that type of value. Giannis won’t. You’ll be paying dollar for dollar for his talent and value, and it will last 3-4 years at most.

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    Giannis is a short term play. Guys that play that far above the rim don’t tend to last as a high level player. Once he’s gone, the Spurs will be in the exact situation Denver and Milwaukee are now: too good to get a high pick, too cap bound to buy the pieces you need around Wemby.

    The best contract value in the NBA is a high floor, high ceiling top pick. Wemby is making a bit over $13Mnext year, and is legit worth 60. To a lesser extent, Castle and Harper will be that type of value. Giannis won’t. You’ll be paying dollar for dollar for his talent and value, and it will last 3-4 years at most.
    I agree with your premise, but it's way to early to say Castle or Harper will be that type of player. We should pump the brakes on that pronouncement.

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    The more I think about it the more I believe that it would make a lot of sense to go into win now mode as it does not impair the future Victor is only 21, at the end of the short term window with Giannis he won't even be in his prime yet.
    Of course it impairs the future; you have to trade away most/all of the young talent and picks to get him.

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    Of course it impairs the future; you have to trade away most/all of the young talent and picks to get him.
    Some crazy stuff. Now offense to Brazil, but man, how in the h#ll does it not impair the future. Don't understand that comment. How are people not able to realize that?

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