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I was interested in Brook Lopez anyway, so if you can get off of Vassell's contract, I think I'd be all for it. Does it look like Brook has anything left in the tank, though?
Been toying around with a Vassell to Milwaukee trade
Basically a sign-and-trade of Brook Lopez to SA along with another player like Connaughton to make salary work if you can get Brook on a 2/30 deal.
Spent a while reading the cbafaq and didn't see any reason why another player couldn't be involved in a sign-and-trade like Connaughton.
Spurs get a back up center who while old and declining should still be able to play some off the bench and even with Wemby and an expiring Connaughton. And get off Vasselll's money. Brook may have been played off the flokr by Indiana at 15 mpg, but that was after a long season of over 30 mpg. With SA, he'd beel down to 20 mpg, 25 tops.
Meanwhile Vassell might be just the type of player Milwaukee needs to convince Giannis to stick around. He's young, he's previously averaged 20 points a game, and he's allegedly a shooter and defender. He's like a poor man's Middleton if you squint hard enough while holding your breath. They might be all about it, and he's a lot better than most other players available when Milwaukee has no first founders to trade Even if they trade Giannis later, Vassell is young enough to stick around and tank command or could rebuild some value and get moved later.
I was interested in Brook Lopez anyway, so if you can get off of Vassell's contract, I think I'd be all for it. Does it look like Brook has anything left in the tank, though?
Agreed.what? he was absolutely NOT salary dumped, he has one of the best value contracts in the league. And I don't think you've been watching Deni much for the past couple of years, if that's what you think of him. He's been so far ahead of any forward we currently have, it's not even funny. It's probably in this very thread.
He wasn't dumped, they got the 1st rounder late lotto they took Carrington with and get another unprotected first in 2029, second most favorable of Portland, Milwaukee, and Boston. So while it can never be #1 as it's the second most favorable, it could still be a lottery pick
He might not, especially if he has to chase little guys everywhere and run up and down every play.
But there's a chance that with less workload he'll still be a good regular season player. And Milwaukee has zero defense on the perimeter putting up a fight to give him time to arrive in time to help. Presumably between Fox, Castle, Harper, and other players the Spurs won't be as easy to penetrate against
But yeah, he could be washed. That's the risk.
I was all for this two years ago, but just not sure if he's washed up or not. I guess the Spurs will have to make the determination as I'm sure they'll take a look at him again since the were interested a couple of years ago.
I do think Vassell is a good fit in MIL if they keep Giannis... or a good fit next to Giannis wherever he goes!
Yeah I think he won't go anywhere cause I can't see another team paying him that except for MIN unless he continues to be underwhelming. Feel like Spurs would be out on him
Kind of feel like Portis would be a better fit than Lopez. He also will bring a hard nosed no nonsense game similar to Dort
I can see BKN signing Naz to a front-loaded overpay. They've got a salary floor to meet and Naz seems exactly like the kind of tank commander to take the reigns from Cam Johnson as they flip him for assets. Naz is also a local kid, so it would be a homecoming for him.
Trade idea of the day:
Celtics pay the #28 pick to offload Tingus. Spotrac says this gets them below the 2nd Apron (this is a 2024-25 league year trade, before the draft). This would allow them to aggregate players in subsequent trades to stay below the 2nd apron and try to get below the tax ahead of the 2025-26 League Year. With Tatum out for the year (I assume), might be a good year for Boston to regroup.
Spurs take a flier on Tingus. If he can get healthy, maybe he's a useful player for us or maybe we flip him at the deadline to a contender. We can use #28 on one of the many late first prospects a lot of us like but who likely won't make it to #38.
Think I'd just rather keep Keldon for another trade. Now if Boston gave us some distant asset I'd consider it.Trade idea of the day:
Celtics pay the #28 pick to offload Tingus. Spotrac says this gets them below the 2nd Apron (this is a 2024-25 league year trade, before the draft). This would allow them to aggregate players in subsequent trades to stay below the 2nd apron and try to get below the tax ahead of the 2025-26 League Year. With Tatum out for the year (I assume), might be a good year for Boston to regroup.
Spurs take a flier on Tingus. If he can get healthy, maybe he's a useful player for us or maybe we flip him at the deadline to a contender. We can use #28 on one of the many late first prospects a lot of us like but who likely won't make it to #38.
All power to you if you can see anything regarding BKN and definitive direction with only Claxton and Johnson as their only notable players. If there was a true rumor for Giannis being interested, I could see them ramp up and try to get some players to surround him. Otherwise, like you said, I can't see them doing much but tanking for another season and/or being trade conduits for other teams. Not sure I see them targeting Reid, but he is only 25 so maybe.
The thought process here is that signing Naz to a significant, but front-loaded deal will help them reach the salary floor while the front loaded nature of his deal (which no one else has the cap space to offer) will make him an attractive trade asset. If Naz signs early, he'll be eligible to be traded as soon as Dec 15, at which team BKN can cash in by sending him to a playoff contender who could use him and wants to move off some less attractive deals, whereby BKN gets more draft capital.
It not a straight forward strategy, but one that a team like BKN might consider.
Edit: I would also call Cam Thomas a notable player that BKN will most certainly retain. He's a flawed player, but is the kind of microwave scorer that other teams might eventually want to trade for as a 6th man assuming BKN doesn't mess it up by overpaying him so that he becomes too expensive for his proper role (which is that 6th man, IMO).
lol any trade where the spurs land Porzingis and dont have to pay for him is an instant accept. im not at all convinced he has negative value on an expiring deal. so yeah, if we get him and a first for freaking keldon im catching a flight to boston and driving KP to the airport
Keldon + Branham or Wesley is also who I'd try to move first. I wouldn't mind that one, but would much rather work out a deal where I can get John Collins or PJ Washington as my starting PF. Or you take Porzingis and package that pick + other guys to get that PF afterwards.
That's my mindset as well. Seems like Boston fans just want to dump this guy and are willing to use #28 to do so (because they can't take that guaranteed salary either)
I'd do it just to get rid of Keldon.
And Spurs might just do it because even though Keldon is a fan favorite, they'd be fine with sending him to a great organization.
They'd never dump him to the Hornets or similar.
You son of a ...I'm in...Trade idea of the day:
Celtics pay the #28 pick to offload Tingus. Spotrac says this gets them below the 2nd Apron (this is a 2024-25 league year trade, before the draft). This would allow them to aggregate players in subsequent trades to stay below the 2nd apron and try to get below the tax ahead of the 2025-26 League Year. With Tatum out for the year (I assume), might be a good year for Boston to regroup.
Spurs take a flier on Tingus. If he can get healthy, maybe he's a useful player for us or maybe we flip him at the deadline to a contender. We can use #28 on one of the many late first prospects a lot of us like but who likely won't make it to #38.
Pretty sure Boston would still be over the 2nd apron even doing a porzingus for keldon and wesley deal.Trade idea of the day:
Celtics pay the #28 pick to offload Tingus. Spotrac says this gets them below the 2nd Apron (this is a 2024-25 league year trade, before the draft). This would allow them to aggregate players in subsequent trades to stay below the 2nd apron and try to get below the tax ahead of the 2025-26 League Year. With Tatum out for the year (I assume), might be a good year for Boston to regroup.
Spurs take a flier on Tingus. If he can get healthy, maybe he's a useful player for us or maybe we flip him at the deadline to a contender. We can use #28 on one of the many late first prospects a lot of us like but who likely won't make it to #38.
I have them around 210 or 211 in that scenario with only 10 players, 2nd apron is at 207 allegedly.
This would be a 2024-25 League Year Trade, where they currently have $193MM in apron allocations and the 2nd Apron at $189MM. So this indeed would pull them under the 2nd apron and allow them to make some aggregation deals before the new league year starts on July 1.
they don’t have no other option unless Brooklyn takes on Porzingis whole contract for nothing in return. They will have to do the same with Holiday: trade him and get less salary back to slowly get under the tax. Offload Hauser and they will get there.
There is a difference between doing big trade and be in this situation vs draft, luck out lottery, trade for basically free and be in situation.
Trades that are done between a team’s season end and July 1st use contract values for the following season, not the current one. Boston can’t do a 2024-2025 year trade. As such Spurs can’t do this trade because they’d need to add a slightly larger contract to make the salary matching numbers work and it won’t get Boston under the 2nd apron.
If they could do something like this they’d trade Porzingis for a player like FVV, who has a team option, then cut him and clear all of the salary from the books (Bill Simmons logic). Of course this is illegal.
Thanks for clarifying... wish Spotrac would update their logic and remove 24-25 League Year trades from their machine if this is the case
There are a few here that keep mentioning how Dallas might (small chance) take Harper #1. I don't see it, but they do have Nico so who knows. Anyway, my question is in that scenario and we take Flagg , what players would we target by trade, FA, draft, etc would we target to round out the team?
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