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I think you're misinterpreting him. He said he values defense and Flagg is a great defender. I don't see how passing on Flagg is predictable. And he has no personal grudge against Flagg.
I'm not saying Nico is unpredictable. I'm saying drafting Harper for him is predictable. He traded Luka - he says - to form a better balanced team (etc.), and Harper balances his team much better than Flagg does.
I think you're misinterpreting him. He said he values defense and Flagg is a great defender. I don't see how passing on Flagg is predictable. And he has no personal grudge against Flagg.
Nope, he's also said he wants a balanced team.
Nico will get JFKed before he can e-mail the Flagg trade papers to the NBA.
This sounds like magical thinking that Nico is giving Flagg to the Spurs. But sure, it's fun to hope for, I guess.
I don't think anybody is predicting it. They're just recognizing that Harper is a fit for them and that Nico has already done dumber things.
Kidd could also be an influence, maybe he sees some of his game in Harper.
Is this Harper at 1 just chatter here, or have the gossip rags said it somewhere?
There's no chatter, we're just hoping Mavs are re ed enough to do it, especially since Kidd and Nico aren't the smartest basketball minds out there.
Nico is at least giving some thoughts about drafting Harper. At least 30% chance IMO.
While AD is still playing well, Dallas wants to compete for a championship.
With Flagg, they would have to trade away at least one of their bigs and let AD plays Center that he hates. This messes up their chemistry.
With Harper, they'll be ready to run from day one and may be a contender next season.
Don't forget, Harper may end up being better than Flagg.
I think you've summed it up quite nicely. I would lower the 30% chance a bit down to about 15%, though, but yeah, I think Harper looks like a better fit as they already have AD and their other big men. They really need a good PG to set the table and score.
And yeah, there is a chance with Harper ending up better player. I wanted Flagg because I thought he's the best player without question, and also equally because I thought he fits the team better, but after the Spurs got the number 2 pick and a lot people here starting looking into it including myself, it seems Harper really does have the talent to be the best player of this draft. It's not a runaway choice between number 1 and 2 like I thought it was before the draft. There is a little bit of a debate to be had. I have really warmed up to the idea of running that 3 guard lineup and am very excited about it. I don't know who I'd want more as the gap has gotten closer and closer between the two.
I don't want to start anything about race, but I also think unfortunately that is coming into play here too. As it seems people are saying that Dallas/Texas, white homegrown player (not foreign), they can't pass that up, but when I hear stuff like that, I keep thinking, they should be looking at fit, talent, who projects to be the better player, who would fit their team better.
Nico is like a cat coming out of the toilet bowl he fell into. He claims that trading Luka was exactly what he wanted to do to win right away (he lost, right away). Don't expect him to try to drink toilet water again. And soon, we will even say that Dallas is conservative in terms of trade and draft.
I haven't seen this in this on this board, and I'm not sure if either side would propose it, but:
#1 (Flagg)
for
#2(presumably Harper) and Castle
I'd probably do it if I was the spurs (but I think Flagg is something approaching a Luka level prospect...).
Yeah, I'm not trading both Steph and the number 2 pick for him. No thanks. I appreciate you think he'll be that good (he very well could end up being that special), but as of now, I wouldn't do it.
Absolutely. Ain't saying it's definitely gonna happen, that's just straight up bad comprehension from folks. Just saying it's on brand and within the pattern of Nico. The United States is full of people who think they are smarter than they are, and he fits that mold to a T.
Completely agree, but I think that even 15 pct. is still a bit too high. Even as good as Harper looks, its more like 5%. How many times have we seen GM's make an incredibly puzzling or stupid draft pick. All these guys have one thing in common, and that is that they have some know it all moron whispering sweet nothings about a player in their ear and they listen and execute - only to regret it later.
We can only hope that Nico has a voice like that, but I seriously doubt it. There are probably too many normal voices in Dallas telling/yelling at him that he messed up once already, and better not mess up again. But hey, this the NBA, you just never know. I'd love to see Cooper Flagg in a spurs uniform.
No
You don't trade the future backcourt
Yeah, you're right, 5% is more like it. Even 15% is definitely too high.
No. I like Flagg, but giving Dallas a 10-15 year dominant future back court,and likely forfeiting any chance at beating OKC in the future by doing so is non optimal.
I love Flagg, but that's to much. I'd give either + a future pick. That said, I'd be happy to let Nico stew and just stand pat.
This is about the fair price.
Hahaha it’s more likely the the spurs trade down from 2 than up to 1. I’ll put it like that.
I think #2 + Castle is probably about a fair price to move up to get Flagg if both could buy into the idea, but I'm like everyone else in that I'd rather just roll with what I have in Steph and draft Harper. There is a lot of (earned) hype around Flagg, but I'm not sure the gap is as large as the price it would take to overcome it.
When I see Flagg I keep thinking about the hype of Christian Laettner.
I didn't watch Laettner (I do know who he is) but the Flagg hype is 100% legit, he's truly awesome.
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