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    I wouldn’t complain as much. I think the Spurs was also beneficiary of the NBA rigged system, deciding to place the future face of the NBA Wemby to the Spurs as the best organization who will be patient and diligent, and not mishandle his development.
    Oh 100%. I'm not complaining tbh. We're very fortunate that the NBA sees us as one of their elite franchises as well. Moving to #2 in a draft where there's a clear-cut #2 prospect is cake. I was merely stating the obvious that Wemby and Flagg would've fed families for years to come (assuming this guys stay healthy).

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    cant believe the NBA tore Kyrie's ACL to facilitate this
    I used to be a reasonable man. I thought there was no way the NBA could possibly rig something as public as draft lotteries (despite the frozen envelope being highly likely). I'm much more skeptical these days. There's simply too many "miraculous" draft lottery happenings over the past 2 decades for me to believe that it's all chance. I'm not sure how they're doing it, but it happening over and over to very specific teams suggests it isn't all just some 1 in a million coincidence tbh.

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    Never gonna happen. Dallas would only give up this pick in exchange for a top 5 player in the league and even then it seems unlikely.
    Even Nico can see that Flagg is the far and away best prospect in this draft.

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    No Harper won't be better than Flagg, and Dallas doesn't want Harper.
    Who was in charge when they let Jalen Brunson go? Was it Nico? I wonder why the let Jalen go as I remember he did great in the playoffs when Luka was out hurt in one of those series. I was thinking this guy's pretty good (I didn't expect him to get to where he is now - shows how much he's continued to work on his game. Also seems to be a pretty level headed person/player which is great too). I recall he took over and carried the load for Dallas in some of those games/series. It's nothing but f-up after f-up from the Dallas front office.

    Maybe they want to go back to where the original/one of the first f#@k ups of the Luka era started and get a guy like Dylan who has the potential to be as good or better than Brunson? Maybe they think he fits better on their team with AD and their other big men already there? Who knows what Nico is thinking. It's questionable decision after questionable decision with those guys. You really don't know what this guy will do.

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    I used to be a reasonable man. I thought there was no way the NBA could possibly rig something as public as draft lotteries (despite the frozen envelope being highly likely). I'm much more skeptical these days. There's simply too many "miraculous" draft lottery happenings over the past 2 decades for me to believe that it's all chance. I'm not sure how they're doing it, but it happening over and over to very specific teams suggests it isn't all just some 1 in a million coincidence tbh.
    envelope method was ripe for ery. easy to manipulate if they chose to. the current ping pong ball system seems pretty bulletproof imho. and again, how did the NBA manage to tear kyrie's ACL?

    why did the nba rig the lottery for atlanta last year, since it was so improbable then too?

    i just flipped a coin six times.i got Tails, Tails, Heads, Tails, Heads, Tails

    WTF there was only a 1.5% chance of that happening. must be rigged.

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    If somehow the Spurs end up with Flagg, I can see them suddenly flip with their #14 to possibly go for a Jase Richardson type.

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    envelope method was ripe for ery. easy to manipulate if they chose to. the current ping pong ball system seems pretty bulletproof imho. and again, how did the NBA manage to tear kyrie's ACL?
    Kyrie's MRI has never been made public tbqh...

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    If somehow the Spurs end up with Flagg, I can see them suddenly flip with their #14 to possibly go for a Jase Richardson type.
    Mavs won't trade Flagg

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    A lot of the NBA already thinks that Nico Harrison is a clown. If he tried to trade Flagg to the spurs, he'd probably be kicked in the ass and then fired before he got the chance. It isn't going to happen.
    He might be forgiven if he got like a record number of future picks and 2 good players in return from a desperate crappy team with assets ( insert team here). This is the current NBA. Not a whole lot surprises me any more.

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    Mavs won't trade Flagg
    Lol did you even read the thread

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    As I mentioned, if they wanted Dylan Harper, wouldn't they at least try and fleece the Spurs into trading for the pick? It would then be up to the Spurs to call the bluff. It could get really complicated if the Mavs actually wanted Harper at number 1.
    Dallas could have fleeced the nba by dangling Luka…yet they gifted him to the lakers…

    Why would dallas suddenly do something smart?

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    2, 14 and the ‘27 Atlanta pick for #1
    That would have to be the offer the Spurs would need to make but they'd run Nico out of town if he took that

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    Here for this. I'm assuming Nico will be worried about leaks, so he won't tip his hand until late. And by then, I'm thinking the Spurs will be ready to pounce with a protected future first as the compensation.

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    Just read this and found it pretty cool that Cooper respects the older generation of players and teams and already knows what it's all about (not individual accolades or playing selfish). Quite the contrast to someone like Anthony Edwards who doesn't seem to respect previous generations (going by his comments last year).

    https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/i...ect-fireworks/
    "We'd have a couple-hour drive for AAU tournaments and our little Chrysler van had a movie projector that would come down the middle and we'd pop in 85-86 Celtics the whole championship run and watch game by game, playing the whole thing over and over again," Flagg said. "I think the way they played, the way they got the ball out quickly, moved it down the court, the selflessness and unselfishness on that team of just accepting a role, doing the right things, putting your body on the line, it kind of embodies what a good team has to have. Everyone has to sacrifice something.

    "Playing the game the right way will get you a lot farther than trying to do things you can't or don't help your team win. That type of influence has been invaluable to me."
    Looks like he's a pretty big Celtics fan. Pretty cool that he understands the team concept so well and what it's all about. He cares about winning above all else it seems. I can now see why Duke did so well in his freshman season (could have won it all). I freaking hate that Dallas got him as I'm becoming a fan.
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    Just read this and found it pretty cool that Cooper respects the older generation of players and teams and already knows what it's all about (not individual accolades or playing selfish). Quite the contrast to someone like Anthony Edwards who doesn't seem to respect previous generations (going by his comments last year).



    Looks like he's a pretty big Celtics fan. Pretty cool that he understands the team concept so well and what it's all about. He cares about winning above all else it seems. I can now see why Duke did so well in his freshman season (could have won it all). I freaking hate that Dallas got him as I'm becoming a fan.
    Yeah Maine would be Celtics territory. Maine used to be part of Massachusetts anyway. Little history lesson there.

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    Dallas could have fleeced the nba by dangling Luka…yet they gifted him to the lakers…

    Why would dallas suddenly do something smart?
    And they were gifted back with a potential generational talent Flagg. That’s what giving up your franchise player to the Lakers do. See Pelicans traded AD to the Fakers got, Zion.

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    I think Dallas ownership on notice that they can’t let their GM F up again. The blowback on the Luka trade was significant to the point of them refunding season ticket holders and other shtt.

    Their fans would burn the house down if they keep the pick and don’t take Flagg.

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    I used to be a reasonable man. I thought there was no way the NBA could possibly rig something as public as draft lotteries (despite the frozen envelope being highly likely). I'm much more skeptical these days. There's simply too many "miraculous" draft lottery happenings over the past 2 decades for me to believe that it's all chance. I'm not sure how they're doing it, but it happening over and over to very specific teams suggests it isn't all just some 1 in a million coincidence tbh.
    So your theory is that Dallas won their first play-in game against SAC and then tanked their second play-in game against Memphis to get into the lottery because they were promised Flagg? Bro, find your meds, this is q-anon ludicrous .

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    BatManu also said the Mavs were gonna win the championship last year .

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    I think Dallas ownership on notice that they can’t let their GM F up again. The blowback on the Luka trade was significant to the point of them refunding season ticket holders and other shtt.

    Their fans would burn the house down if they keep the pick and don’t take Flagg.
    ownership already made a statement after the draft that they not trading the #1 pick

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    BatManu also said the Mavs were gonna win the championship last year .
    I don’t see the problem with that. They were really good in the playoffs until the finals.

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    It's not happening, but for the sake for the hypothetical if the Mavs called, the Spurs would do what it takes. Someone said 2 + 14 + Atlanta's 27 pick. I think that is a a bargain. No more talk about will the 3 guard + Wemby be effective. You get the perfect player next to Wemby. Great defense. Can play the 3 or 4. Excellent and willing passer. Is rapidly improving his 3 point shot. This is the kind of opportunity that you stockpile assets for. In 2 years or less you are a stud 3&D player away from LOB contention. I get that we all overvalue our own players (or unreasonalbly trash them) and consider Harper a Spur already, but this is simply too good of a fit with only player considered better than Harper. Any other take is just looking through Spurs-colored glasses.

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    The Mavs seem to want to win right away (one or two years)

    I agree, even if it was unrealistic, but now that a 33 yr old Kyrie is going to miss most of next season recovering from knee surgery, I think even Nico will have to admit that a serious playoff run is less likely. Add in the extreme good fortune of moving up in the draft, and I think the strategy changes to the future.

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    So your theory is that Dallas won their first play-in game against SAC and then tanked their second play-in game against Memphis to get into the lottery because they were promised Flagg? Bro, find your meds, this is q-anon ludicrous .
    No, that is not my theory. Nowhere did I say that. You literally just pulled that out of your ass "bro" . I'm suggesting that a multi-billion dollar corporation like the NBA might be opportunistic at times and want to control its assets, much like any other multi-billion dollar corporation. Kyrie getting injured had nothing to do with it, nor did them losing their Play-In game. I'm suggesting that once it was established that the Mavs were going to be selecting in the lottery, it's not inconceivable that the NBA wanted to capitalize on the opportunity and reward them with the #1 Pick at a time where their fanbase is revolting.

    And to pretend like I'm the only person suggesting this theory is hilarious when it was the #1 trending topic on the internet the minute the Mavs on the lottery. Tens of thousands of people suggested the exact same when it happened.

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    BatManu also said the Mavs were gonna win the championship last year .
    Oh look, Spursgay is back! The audacity of me to incorrectly predict an NBA Finals series (as countless people did) at a time when the Mavericks were red-hot entering the series. Reprehensible, I know. I also should've known Luka's body was going to fail him that series. I'll try my best not to let it happen again, I promise.

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