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    Between this take and the "Dallas won the Luka trade" take from a few months back, you have be the most contrarian poster on this board
    Lol. Yeah, I get it. "Contrarian poster" is being polite That's me. l Didn't take the vaccine either...

    Still, Different points of view can be interesting and even enlightening. I look at picks and trades a little different. Not so much about individual skills, tho they matter a lot...but, the overall affect on the teams play.

    Luke always needs the ball in his hands to be effective. AD doesn't. How does that affect the rest of the teams effectiveness? Jordan and Kobe needed the ball too and were effective at it. Duncan didn't need the ball in his hands as much and helped the team be better because of it. I think Wemby handles the ball too much. His 20' over the head passes are "WTF" worthy. It effects the rest of the teams play. We have a few 3 point shooters for example. We don't have many 7'3" league leading shot blockers. Where should he be playing? Where is he playing? Wtf is he doing??? haha

    Flagg is one of the best "all around" players I've seen since the Magic days, just without the flash. Offense, defense, passing, Rebounding...everything. He can help others or do his thing. I see him as the ultimate compliment for team play. I'm always about team play over individual play. 2014 still gives me chills. I can see Flagg on a team like that. Wemby...maybe, maybe not. That's Wemby in a nuts .

    Now that I've thought about it a little more...Flagg is more Ginobili than Magic. Or maybe a combination. Would you take Ginobili over Wemby? lol. I know my answer

    Anyway, the possibilities in this draft are...insane. Thinking "out-of-the-box" is generally a good idea. Don't have to do it. But, it sure doesn't hurt to look at it.
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    You draft him but need to trade one of them as fox and harper can't coexist
    Rookie guards almost never end being net positives right off the bat. Unless Harper proves himself to be another Luka, having him, Fox & Castle will work just fine in the short term.

    Extend Fox, and start Castle with him with Harper coming off the bench. Try to arrange the rotation where you have 2 of them on the court at all times.

    Assuming Castle and Harper both reach their lofty potential, then we can trade Fox ~ 3yrs down the road.

    This is basically a layup. Not even Nico can this up.

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    what if post dvt wemby is not what we think, or like luka, the front office has had enough of the "i only shoot threes" diva and want a better coachable prospect? gotta trust pafto if they make the call
    His 3 point shooting jumped from like 5 attempts to over 9 when Mitch took the interim position. He’s not going rogue.

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    Luka was not a generational prospect. lol Deandre Ayton went over him. No generational prospect can go 3rd unless picks #1 and 2 are also generational.

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    Oden and Zion were generational prospects to casuals. Same for Dwight Howard. Throw Yao in there lol

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    Luka was not a generational prospect. lol Deandre Ayton went over him. No generational prospect can go 3rd unless picks #1 and 2 are also generational.
    Luka was by far the greatest European prospect ever, it's just that a couple of GMs couldn't get over themselves.
    I'd argue he was the best playmaker prospect since Magic. Zero risk pick.

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    There were concerns about Luka’s defense and why he didn’t get more minutes. Stamina was already a concern

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    I would trade WEMBY for #1 Spot...maybe get a center thrown in. Then we'd have the #1 AND #2 spot. Maybe trade the #2 spot for the best big you can get. Then you would have a backcourt from , not worry about how to allocate minutes in the back court...and still have a damn good big.

    Wemby is a generational talent, but so is Flagg. And I think Flagg will be more stable. Watching Wemby is exhilarating and frustrating at the same time. He's not Duncan. He's better...and worse. Unpredictable. He can f up a team just as easily as help them, not to mention health issues. I'd take flagg. And a Big at #2...or trade #2 for a big.

    Flagg, Fox, Castle and a #2 big. Or...we could still take HARPER at #2.

    Flagg...fox...Harper...Castle...and a rock in the middle.

    Damn.
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    Sabonis and Petrovic were far better European prospects than Luka. Way more accomplished

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    The idea of trading Wemby for Flagg straight up is provocative for sure (for one, Dallas would certainly need to give up more than just #1...). For s and giggles, I'd like to entertain this for a moment (and not because I think we should do this. Trading Wemby to Dallas seems like a surefire way to get skull ed by Wemby for the next decade).

    Let's say this happened...



    With #14 I'm gonna take Coward and a #38 I'm going to assume I get Maxime because I'm gonna use some future SRPs to move up.

    Our team now looks like:

    Guard Rotation: Fox/Harper/Castle/Coward
    Forward Rotation: Flagg/Washington/Vassell/Barnes/Sochan
    Big Rotation: Lively/Gafford/Raynaud

    That's an interesting, well balanced team. If you could live with the fact that traded Wembanyama, it would be exciting to root for.

    I'm 100% against doing this though. I don't want to suffer at the hands of Wemby Quintuple Doubles for the next decade

    Once again before I'm accused of something I'm not... I AM 100% AGAINST THIS... I'm just bored.

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    There were concerns about Luka’s defense and why he didn’t get more minutes. Stamina was already a concern
    He was a ing teenager who won MVP in second best league in the world, why are some of you so adamant about sticking with your re ed takes?
    Petrovic was in another time and Sabonis had no knees by the time he got to the NBA.

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    Pick #2 strategies thread quietly becomes the trade Wemby thread. lol Spurs tanking until 3035 stacked!!!!!!

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    The idea of trading Wemby for Flagg straight up is provocative for sure (for one, Dallas would certainly need to give up more than just #1...). For s and giggles, I'd like to entertain this for a moment (and not because I think we should do this. Trading Wemby to Dallas seems like a surefire way to get skull ed by Wemby for the next decade).

    Let's say this happened...



    With #14 I'm gonna take Coward and a #38 I'm going to assume I get Maxime because I'm gonna use some future SRPs to move up.

    Our team now looks like:

    Guard Rotation: Fox/Harper/Castle/Coward
    Forward Rotation: Flagg/Washington/Vassell/Barnes/Sochan
    Big Rotation: Lively/Gafford/Raynaud

    That's an interesting, well balanced team. If you could live with the fact that traded Wembanyama, it would be exciting to root for.

    I'm 100% against doing this though. I don't want to suffer at the hands of Wemby Quintuple Doubles for the next decade

    Once again before I'm accused of something I'm not... I AM 100% AGAINST THIS... I'm just bored.
    I can tell you're bored.

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    He was a ing teenager who won MVP in second best league in the world, why are some of you so adamant about sticking with your re ed takes?
    Petrovic was in another time and Sabonis had no knees by the time he got to the NBA.
    lmao and was picked third behind Ayton and Marvin Bagley. Luka was a great prospect but not generational. Darko didn’t get picked ahead of LeBron

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    He was a ing teenager who won MVP in second best league in the world, why are some of you so adamant about sticking with your re ed takes?
    Petrovic was in another time and Sabonis had no knees by the time he got to the NBA.
    We are talking about prospects not what they were when they got to the NBA. Keep up! Name call all you like lol only makes your take worse

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    Pick #2 strategies thread quietly becomes the trade Wemby thread. lol Spurs tanking until 3035 stacked!!!!!!
    Its a dangerous business ,scottsspurs, talking about draft strategies. If you don't keep your feet, there's no knowing where you might be swept off to.

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    lmao and was picked third behind Ayton and Marvin Bagley. Luka was a great prospect but not generational. Darko didn’t get picked ahead of LeBron
    Alright, you're just a re . What's going on with this place as of late, ffs?

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    Alright, you're just a re . What's going on with this place as of late, ffs?
    Noted lol when are you starting the spurs should trade for Deandre Ayton thread? Lmao
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    Luka was not a generational prospect. lol Deandre Ayton went over him. No generational prospect can go 3rd unless picks #1 and 2 are also generational.
    This... there's a difference in being a generational prospect and a generational player after the fact...

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    The word generational is thrown too easily for both prospects and accomplished players. A generation is 20 to 30 years, you can't cram 6 or 7 names in there and call all of them generational.

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    The idea of trading Wemby for Flagg straight up is provocative for sure (for one, Dallas would certainly need to give up more than just #1...). For s and giggles, I'd like to entertain this for a moment (and not because I think we should do this. Trading Wemby to Dallas seems like a surefire way to get skull ed by Wemby for the next decade).

    Let's say this happened...



    With #14 I'm gonna take Coward and a #38 I'm going to assume I get Maxime because I'm gonna use some future SRPs to move up.

    Our team now looks like:

    Guard Rotation: Fox/Harper/Castle/Coward
    Forward Rotation: Flagg/Washington/Vassell/Barnes/Sochan
    Big Rotation: Lively/Gafford/Raynaud

    That's an interesting, well balanced team. If you could live with the fact that traded Wembanyama, it would be exciting to root for.

    I'm 100% against doing this though. I don't want to suffer at the hands of Wemby Quintuple Doubles for the next decade

    Once again before I'm accused of something I'm not... I AM 100% AGAINST THIS... I'm just bored.
    Unlike most others I could be talked into trading Wemby but I'd want more than that tbh.

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    " Trading Wemby to Dallas seems like a surefire way to get skull ed by Wemby for the next decade." Abso%$$inglotely!

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    That's "IF" Wemby is around for a decade....

    Think of it this way...It's like comparing Wemby with Chet Holmgren. Wemby is better in every stat. But, Chet Holmgren is in the Finals.

    "Yeah, but Chet has a better team around him."

    Exactly.

    Team vs Individual.

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    That's "IF" Wemby is around for a decade....

    Think of it this way...It's like comparing Wemby with Chet Holmgren. Wemby is better in every stat. But, Chet Holmgren is in the Finals.

    "Yeah, but Chet has a better team around him."

    Exactly.

    Team vs Individual.
    Wemby is a bus driver while Chet is a bus rider tbh. Big difference.

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    Wemby is a bus driver while Chet is a bus rider tbh. Big difference.
    Not sure Wemby is even on the bus. It's like watching him out the window of the bus. He really is a Unicorn.

    The only other Physical Unicorn I've ever seen, was Wilt Chamberlain. And Bill Russell walked away with the Championships.

    Team vs Individual.
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