Call your Ideal 2025 Off-Season

[scott]

I started this thread last year (found here: https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=303633) which yielded 25 pages of ideas. Notably I did have drafting Juan Nunez in the second as part of my first "ideal off-season" idea... so at least I had that going for me.

Anyway... thought it would be worth starting this thread again.

The idea behind this thread is for folks to lay out ideas for the ideal offseason. It does make for some fun reading later on. (I'm quite glad my first idea didn't come to fruition).

Here is a first pass idea for me, now that the lottery is done.

Draft

• Pick #2 Dylan Harper
• Pick #14 Thomas Sorber
• Pick #38 - traded along with some unspecified number of our 2026 SRPs to move up and select Drake Powell

Trades

• Devin Vassell is traded for John Collins. I think this might be underselling Devin a little bit, but I would value this move simply from the POV of clearing Devin's money off the books. I wouldn't necessarily extend Collins right away, part of his appeal is that he is an expiring from my POV. See how he does and maybe you work out a new deal next offseason.

Free Agency

• Mamu resigned one a 1-year minimum deal
• Seth Curry signed for 1-year deal at the BAE. (I don't feel super strongly about this one... Champ would probably pick up most of the backup 2 minutes, but it would be good to have another vet shooter on the roster to pick up spot minutes)
• Clint Capela signs 1+1 using the MLE (maybe not all of it, not important)

Other Moves

• Branham is a camp casualty. Bye little buddy
• Fox takes a slight discount, 4/200 with the final year being a player option. $51.0/55.1/47.0/46.9. <-De'Aaron leaves $29MM on the table to give the Spurs additional cap flexibility after Wemby's extension kicks in in exchange for the ability to opt out after 3 years and renegotiate. (Note... this is a long shot, but still within the realm of possibility IMO). These year to year numbers also aren't quite right, but I just threw them out as an idea. The goal would be to get De'Aaron as close as possible to the max in the first two years while taking a discount in the last two years.
• Sochan not extended, becomes a RFA next summer
• Tiago Splitter joins Mitch's staff, as does another experienced NBA coach and a young hot shot coach none of us have ever heard of.

Opening Day Depth Chart

Fox/Harper/Wesley
Castle/Seth Curry/Powell
Barnes/Keldon/Champ
Jollins/Sochan/Mamu
Wemby/Sorber/Capela

What are your favorite full off-season scenarios?

[scottspurs]

I wouldn’t mind your offseason at all. Mine would probably be similar. I don’t trust Danny Ainge but John Collins would be ideal. I feel like Ainge would ask for multiple picks in addition to Vassell. If you can sure up rim protection when Wemby is not in the game by drafting Sorber I’m all for it. I don’t see the spurs trading up from 38 though. More than likely they trade out of the 2nd for future 2nds. They could also go draft and stash or draft a lesser prospect that will agree to a two way.

[Seventyniner]

I started this thread last year (found here: https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=303633) which yielded 25 pages of ideas. Notably I did have drafting Juan Nunez in the second as part of my first "ideal off-season" idea... so at least I had that going for me.

If we had drafted an actual decent player in round 2 we would have had a better record and the ping pong balls would have come up differently and we wouldn't have gotten the #2 pick! All hail Juan Nunez!

[scottspurs]

If we had drafted an actual decent player in round 2 we would have had a better record and the ping pong balls would have come up differently and we wouldn't have gotten the #2 pick! All hail Juan Nunez!

Juan Nunez the hero we never knew we needed.

[scott]

If we had drafted an actual decent player in round 2 we would have had a better record and the ping pong balls would have come up differently and we wouldn't have gotten the #2 pick! All hail Juan Nunez!

El Rey Feo for life: Juan Nunez

[Guru of Nothing]

That looks pretty close to consensus. Vassell is a real wildcard here because it's difficult gauge value as an outsider. Also, and I think I mentioned this elsewhere, I kind of expect some surprisingly good opportunities to come their way this off-season, due in part largely to dealing from a position of strength ��

I agree with you on Harper and Sorber, for sure. If we do draft Sorber, it might be worth bringing Biyombo back to the end of the bench to help mentor. Think about Sorber among the rest of our roster of wings and guards - ugly duckling syndrome could set in.

[Dex]

Bring back Boban. Karma championship.

[Mugen]

You had me at the Golden God joining the bench tbh.

[scott]

Bring back Boban. Karma championship.

I'm reading through last year's thread and it wasn't until Page 6 where someone suggested bringing Boban back. His stock is on the rise!

[Guru of Nothing]

I also think Sochan gets traded too, especially if it involves a do-right-by and they secure a solid extension first before dealing.

[KobesAchilles]

Good to know I called us stealth tanking from a year ago

Trade Vassell, Castle, Sochan and 3 FRPs to the Bucks. That includes our 14 pick, our FRP in next year and the other ATL pick and the ATL trade swap in 2028. We receive Giannis.

Trade KJ to the Mavs for a SRP

Draft Harper. Add LaRavia to the roster. Add Kornet to the roster. And add Williams from the Nets. Cut a lot of the other players to make room financially for these players and keep Champ. Re-sign CP3 somehow to come off the bench. And take fliers on Eric Gordon and Drummond

Starters: Wemby, Harper, Fox, Williams, Giannis
Bench: CP3, Champ, Barnes, LaRavia, Kornet,
Deep bench: Gordon and Drummond

Next I would poach the former CHI shooting coach. I would poach developmental coaches from Detroit and Cleveland. I would hire the former Mem assistant as our head assistant. And I’d offer Van Gundy whatever he wants to be our consultant. We were paying Pop 17 million anyway so might as well spread the money out to get top tier guys.

I would do these moves for two reasons. First I believe Giannis is a necessity in order for Wemby to take the next level. Wemby isn’t a franchise guy yet but that’s only bc he has no idea how to become one. Giannis can teach him what it takes to become the best player in the world. Imagine Wemby with a Giannis work ethic. I really believe the compe iveness of Wemby will open his eyes and help him realize his potential a heck of a lot sooner. Also their games compliment each other perfectly.

My second reason is Harper. If you think Harper is going to be James Harden then we are going to contend well after Giannis is no longer MVP level. We might as well be contenders from here on to the next decade. I get tired of posters saying well Harper is going to be Harden but we can’t trade for Giannis bc it’s going to leave the Spurs bare of all our talent. Like a prime Wemby and prime Harden (in this case Harper) is a contender. So where is this supposed dry cupboard?

The transition into contention with my Giannis trade should go from this year all the way until 2035. Also Dallas is about to get us a top 3 pick and Boston is gonna give us a top 10 pick. Plus we keep all our picks going forward anyways in my trade scenario. I don’t think Atlanta is bottoming out anytime soon and the 14th pick is the best one we get going forward. That’s my gamble.

[scott]

We were paying Pop 17 million anyway so might as well spread the money out to get top tier guys.

I have a sneaking su ion we are still paying Pop $17MM

[Dejounte]

Sochan ain’t getting traded

[exstatic]

Sochan ain’t getting traded

Antonio Daniels was Timmy’s best friend, and in his wedding party. He was traded. Malik Rose was Timmy’s good friend, and he was traded. Spurs make the moves that they need to. Not saying Sochan will be traded, but he absolutely could.

[Robz4000]

Trading Keldon and Vassell for Jokic tbh. They can have Branham too imo fwiw.

[Guru of Nothing]

Jeremy better stay the away from Timmy, if he knows what's good for him.

[scott]

Sochan ain’t getting traded

, Sochan and Castle might both get traded if enough people see this stupid ass video they made

[Dejounte]

Who does Wemby benefit from learning more from? Giannis or Durant? With Giannis, he learns how to train his body. With Durant, he refines his game and masters it. Max out on longevity or max out skill?

[Seventyniner]

Who does Wemby benefit from learning more from? Giannis or Durant? With Giannis, he learns how to train his body. With Durant, he refines his game and masters it. Max out on longevity or max out skill?

Bird in the hand. Take Durant. He's far cheaper in terms of assets needed to get him and a personal favorite of Wemby's to boot.

Wemby's skillset is closer to KD's than Wemby's body is to Giannis's too.

Trade for Giannis 5-6 years down the road when he's at the current KD stage of his career.

[DPG21920]

Draft Harper. Find a way to trade up and take Kon too.

Giannis demands deal to SA with enough leverage where Castle and Harper are not included. Like Dev + Keldon + other salary + 5 picks (that aren’t Harper or Kon) to MIL for Giannis.

Roll out Fox + Castle + Kon + Giannis + Wemby while still having Harper.

Highly unrealistic (the Giannis part) but that would be ideal if Giannis indeed nukes his value by telling teams “I only want SA”

[SpursFan86]

Who does Wemby benefit from learning more from? Giannis or Durant? With Giannis, he learns how to train his body. With Durant, he refines his game and masters it. Max out on longevity or max out skill?

I’m not sure there’s a single person on earth who Wemby would benefit learning from more than KD, tbh.

[baseline bum]

I can't really think of a better reasonable offseason than what scott posted other than I think I'd rather have Bobby Portis with the MLE instead of Capela.

[Joseph Kony]

Trade Vassell/Keldon/14 for KD. Draft Harper at 2. use the MLE on Capela or Lopez (preferably Lopez) and use the BAE on a vet shooter like Kennard/Hardaway/Merrill/Shamet/Curry (of this bunch Hardaway or Kennard would be preferable but tbh i'm unsure of their value). Maybe sign Batum for the min and see if we can keep Mamu

Fox/Harper/Wesley
Castle/Hardaway (or Kennard)/Branham
Sochan/Champagnie
Durant/Barnes/Batum
Victor/Lopez (or Capela)/Mamu

That's a WCF team next season imo

[itzsoweezee]

#1: fleece Dallas for Flagg
#2: fleece Milwaukee for Giannis
#3: fleece Phoenix for Durant
Least appealing offseason: drafting two rookies

[Degoat]

Random thought… I know this is a rare occurrence but could teams view Vassell in a similar light as Dwhite? Don’t get me wrong DWhite was one of my fav players and we know how great he was but he really shined after he left the spurs… Could the same happen for Dev and teams will jump at the opportunity.