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    Ozark was super mid, tbh. Better Call Saul/Breaking Bad >>>>>

    The Wire and Sopranos, goes without saying. I also really liked the Shield.

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    As usual the Reddit idiots on there scoff at any speculation if it involves players from the friendship crew, they did the same with Fox before they traded for him

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    Role players will never be worth more than a ring. I think spurs fan are a little out of touch when it comes to that due to Tim Duncan gifting us 5 rings when a Third of the NBA still doesn't have a single one.

    The odds are actually against anyone at 14 being a diamond in the rough. There's talent for sure, but they're at the middle of the 1st round for a reason. I like the prospects of the 14th pick more this year than I can remember in awhile. Still wouldn't think twice on getting Durant for the 14 and off loading bad contracts. That would without a doubt help Wemby the most on the court as well. What's best for Wemby, is best for the team. We aren't promised an entire career with the kid as we learned this year.
    For sure, the diamonds are there or close enough to move up a pick or two every yr (Joker, Booker was #13, Siakam, Bam/Jarrett Allen/OG/Mitc at #13 all in same class, Brunson, Herro @ #13, Maxey, Sengun and plenty of guys in '22-24 post #13 that can make the jump to 1/2+ time AS, JWill and Hali were #12), but finding and developing them is more luck/fit/timeline than skill.
    OKC looks great but KD @ #2, Russ falling to #4, Harden falling to #3 set up current stockpile of picks. Traded Jaden McDaniels & Quickley for James Johnson and Aleksey Pokusevki, Sengun for this yrs 17th and 2 2nds. Lively for Wallace could go either way, but Lively has a much higher ceiling.No one knows, its a crap shoot. OKC's definitely the best, but they still miss.

    KD is a lil scary as a 37y/o expiring malcontent on a young team with the jewel of the league, but if we could get him for #14, Vassell & Barnes/Bran's expirings plus 2nds? yes, roll the damn dice.

    Fox/Harper/Castle/KD/Wemby could do serious damage next yr. I don't see anyone beating OKC next yr barring injury, but then Chet and JWill are RFAs and they'll have to start shedding salary.
    KD accelerates the timeline so much, we're 2nd round team next yr with health, real WCF potential.
    And if a 38y/o KD likes being back in the Hill Country and sees a chance for one or two more rings as the next but better Ray Allen next to the new best player in the league, I think odds are goods he takes under market deal to retire here and regain his reputation and become another central Tx legend. After next yr he'll be at over $500M on the court, and at least another $100M off. At this point, $10-20M here or there is a rounding error & partially off-set by income tax and an Austin legend returning.

    Dudes the best shot maker ever, prefers to be Beta and hasn't lost a beat. At his size, I think he's got at least 3 good to great yrs left with Wemby and Co to cover his D and get him to a better suited 30ish-mpg.
    Another 'ship or two and a happy retirement and no one will remember the Bkn/Pho issues.
    And his tweet yesterday really makes me think he's into it. It all makes too much sense.

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    yeah in retrospect when i've gone back to rewatch that show, season 1 feels so damn slow. as breaking bad progressed it was such a masterclass as far as being consistently adrenaline-fueled but never to the point where it gets exhausting.

    as much as id say better call saul is better written with more compelling characters, i think breaking bad stands alone as the best at what it does as far as consistent, nerve-racking excitement

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    I think I'd rate them

    1. Season 4
    2. Season 2
    3. Season 3
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    Wow that’s exactly my ranking too. 2 really gets better on rewatches.

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    The funny thing about watching BCS is realizing everyone is eventually going to get taken down by a dying chemistry teacher.

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    Sochan trying to get rid of Devin/Keldon, power of friendship is over!

    That team (as laid out in the tweet) would be pretty solid though

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    Meh. It's not like the 2030 MIN pick was the lynch pin of the Fox trade. If not that pick, we would have just included a different pick.

    At the end of the day, I'll always contend that we should have gotten more than what we did for the #8 pick... but it's water under the bridge at this point. But, I don't disagree with the logic of trading out of #8 (just think we should have gotten more) and I'd be okay with doing the same for #14 (assuming we get a good return).
    But if I'm remembering right we couldn't have absorbed Barnes salary with the #8 slot money (Barnes had to waive a kicker in fact), so that trade made Barnes + the Sac swap possible, and I assume the Barnes deal weighed on CP3's decision. Maybe there were other deals, but maybe they included '24-'25 money that would've prohibited those moves.
    And Barnes has real value today as an Iron Man, Top10 shooter with Champ experience that maybe still be flipped for more value, whether this offseason or later.

    So I don't look at it in a vacuum, trading the #8 got us the Minny pick and facilitated the Sac swap + Barnes, at the least. And its likely getting Barnes and CP3 influenced Fox's decision to request a trade, which lessoned his value. Maybe all coincidence, but looks strategic to me.

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    Wow that’s exactly my ranking too. 2 really gets better on rewatches.
    Same order, same thought. Hated season 2 the first watch. But after you get the bigger story, so damn good. And boat/Beady McNulty is best McNulty.

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    But if I'm remembering right we couldn't have absorbed Barnes salary with the #8 slot money (Barnes had to waive a kicker in fact), so that trade made Barnes + the Sac swap possible, and I assume the Barnes deal weighed on CP3's decision. Maybe there were other deals, but maybe they included '24-'25 money that would've prohibited those moves.
    And Barnes has real value today as an Iron Man, Top10 shooter with Champ experience that maybe still be flipped for more value, whether this offseason or later.

    So I don't look at it in a vacuum, trading the #8 got us the Minny pick and facilitated the Sac swap + Barnes, at the least. And its likely getting Barnes and CP3 influenced Fox's decision to request a trade, which lessoned his value. Maybe all coincidence, but looks strategic to me.
    Maybe? There were plenty of other ways to make it all still work if the Spurs really wanted. I'm not willing to buy into this idea that the #8 pick set into motion this series of events that otherwise couldn't have happened. There were other ways, it's not like this was the perfect threading of the needle.

    At the end of the day, I'm happy with how everything turned out... but I still rate the #8 trade a C, because I feel we should have gotten more out of it. I'm not going to bump the grade up because of the subsequent, loosely related moves that followed.

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    Ozark was super mid, tbh. Better Call Saul/Breaking Bad >>>>>

    The Wire and Sopranos, goes without saying. I also really liked the Shield.
    ozark started strong and kind of just got worse over time, though it was still pretty solid throughout. it was definitely discount breaking bad though

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    Sochan trying to get rid of Devin/Keldon, power of friendship is over!

    That team (as laid out in the tweet) would be pretty solid though
    I did notice that Vassell wasn’t on that boat video…

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    As usual the Reddit idiots on there scoff at any speculation if it involves players from the friendship crew, they did the same with Fox before they traded for him
    They think Keldon Johnson is the heart and soul of this team, not Wemby

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    I did notice that Vassell wasn’t on that boat video…
    We might have underestimated Sochan's intelligence... he's clearly smart enough to know which Pineapple head he should be hitching his wagon to going forward

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    Sochan trying to get rid of Devin/Keldon, power of friendship is over!

    That team (as laid out in the tweet) would be pretty solid though
    it would also be in the luxury tax

    They think Keldon Johnson is the heart and soul of this team, not Wemby


    Spurs beat writers been spreading the same thing. I can’t wait til we get rid of him.

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    14 for durant I agree you have to pull the trigger. However, with castle, fox, and likely harper, there is a real chance of at minimum spurs having 2 solid allstars, all on the cheap.

    Yes, Role players aren't worth more than a ring, however solid role players are a necessity to most championship teams. You can see this by just looking at how teams are being constructed now, including the top 4 teams right now fighting for a chip, and boston last year. Prioritizing a few top tier talent at the sacrifice of instead having a solid well rounded 6-7 man rotation I don't think is the way to go anymore.
    Fox, castle, Durant, wemby is a solid top 4. Add harper, sochan(essential defender to the best players left in the playoffs), Barnes (40% 30 shooter and great 6th man tbh) plus one solid big to add to the mix and you have your 6-7 rotation. In the playoffs, your top 4 are playing near 40 mins a game. There's not a lot left after that.

    I agree on the rotation depth. You see it killing the Knicks but that's about it. The other teams have 3 main guys and a solid 3 others. Castle, Harper and Barnes can each give you 20 any given night. Yes harper is inexperienced and not proven without a doubt, but his game is the easiest to translate to the NBA. He has the Luka type inside offense. It just works.

    With Durant fox and wemby, people will also want to come to the spurs. They're at a unique position with wembys rookie contract being able to actually afford 3 stars. Teams just can't do that anymore with the new salary rules.

    This will be the only time in wembys career he can get away with it, without rule changes. I guarantee that factors into them chasing a ring soon.

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    We might have underestimated Sochan's intelligence... he's clearly smart enough to know which Pineapple head he should be hitching his wagon to going forward
    Oh goody. Our very own Littlefinger.

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    For sure, the diamonds are there or close enough to move up a pick or two every yr (Joker, Booker was #13, Siakam, Bam/Jarrett Allen/OG/Mitc at #13 all in same class, Brunson, Herro @ #13, Maxey, Sengun and plenty of guys in '22-24 post #13 that can make the jump to 1/2+ time AS, JWill and Hali were #12), but finding and developing them is more luck/fit/timeline than skill.
    OKC looks great but KD @ #2, Russ falling to #4, Harden falling to #3 set up current stockpile of picks. Traded Jaden McDaniels & Quickley for James Johnson and Aleksey Pokusevki, Sengun for this yrs 17th and 2 2nds. Lively for Wallace could go either way, but Lively has a much higher ceiling.No one knows, its a crap shoot. OKC's definitely the best, but they still miss.

    KD is a lil scary as a 37y/o expiring malcontent on a young team with the jewel of the league, but if we could get him for #14, Vassell & Barnes/Bran's expirings plus 2nds? yes, roll the damn dice.

    Fox/Harper/Castle/KD/Wemby could do serious damage next yr. I don't see anyone beating OKC next yr barring injury, but then Chet and JWill are RFAs and they'll have to start shedding salary.
    KD accelerates the timeline so much, we're 2nd round team next yr with health, real WCF potential.
    And if a 38y/o KD likes being back in the Hill Country and sees a chance for one or two more rings as the next but better Ray Allen next to the new best player in the league, I think odds are goods he takes under market deal to retire here and regain his reputation and become another central Tx legend. After next yr he'll be at over $500M on the court, and at least another $100M off. At this point, $10-20M here or there is a rounding error & partially off-set by income tax and an Austin legend returning.

    Dudes the best shot maker ever, prefers to be Beta and hasn't lost a beat. At his size, I think he's got at least 3 good to great yrs left with Wemby and Co to cover his D and get him to a better suited 30ish-mpg.
    Another 'ship or two and a happy retirement and no one will remember the Bkn/Pho issues.
    And his tweet yesterday really makes me think he's into it. It all makes too much sense.
    Yea he's always been a fan of the spurs. If you watch his videos od the past couple years and his on court convos, his fire is absolutely still there and you can tell he gets frustratedly with people not playing the right way. He wouldn't have to worry about that with the spurs. I think that's one of the most under appreciated aspects of the spurs.

    Like you mentioned, diamonds in the rough are super rare and you listed a bunch of outliers. That's absolutely not to be expected. It's just a random luck of the draw. It's whats fun and exciting about the draft.

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    Durant is done. Please pass on him…that ship sailed about 3 years ago…

    if spurs must..please let vassell go and not barnes and not sochan….

    but there has to be other options than a 37 year old with extremely high mileage…

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    Durant is done. Please pass on him…that ship sailed about 3 years ago…

    if spurs must..please let vassell go and not barnes and not sochan….

    but there has to be other options than a 37 year old with extremely high mileage…
    I'd prefer Giannis (obviously) but the package for Giannis is going to be a King's ransom I feel like. One of Castle / Harper (#2) are gone, which is fine since they play the same position. #14, Vassell, one of KJ / Sochan as well.

    Basically, one of Castle/#2, #14, Vassell, one of KJ/Sochan.

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    I'd prefer Giannis (obviously) but the package for Giannis is going to be a King's ransom I feel like. One of Castle / Harper (#2) are gone, which is fine since they play the same position. #14, Vassell, one of KJ / Sochan as well.

    Basically, one of Castle/#2, #14, Vassell, one of KJ/Sochan.
    well salary wise, Vassell + Keldon + Sochan already gets you there, then its just a matter of adding draft picks. #2 overall this year with a legit stud like Harper at 2 would carry quite a bit of value, way more than a generic unprotected pick. i think those players, the harper pick, 2 additional firsts, and probably a swap or something is what bucks would ask for. you have to realize how high the trade value of these types of players typically are.

    Paul George got trade for Shai + Gallinari + 5 first rounders.

    mitc got traded for Lauri, 3 firsts, and 2 swaps. and giannis is a tier above either mitc or peak paul george

    its going to be painfully expensive to land giannis, with an emphasis on painfully. we're not going to get a value trade out of this. you are banking on the team making deep playoff runs in the next 3 years with that trade with a lineup of Fox/Castle/Barnes/Giannis/Wemby and a bench of... Wesley/Champagnie, and whatever other filler we can acquire. giannis is a monster, and i dont know what defenses do against giannis/wemby with Fox back there as well. maybe those two alone would make a dominant enough pairing where the rest doesnt really matter. its quite the gamble.

    i think if the spurs wanted to make a trade, a Durant trade where we give Vassell/KJ/Branham, 14, and a maybe a swap for KD would be my preference between the two. KD will be 37 at the start of the season, is no longer in his prime, so he's not going to cost nearly as much.

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    KD addresses our shooting/spacing issues. Giannis exacerbates them. Adding a non shooter to a group of non shooters sounds terrible to me.

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    KD addresses our shooting/spacing issues. Giannis exacerbates them. Adding a non shooter to a group of non shooters sounds terrible to me.
    That's why I keep saying we'd need to acquire at least two more legit shooters if we get Giannis, which would effectively make it an all-in trade.
    KD fixes the spacing, but defensive issues would still be there, we could just try to outscore everyone, tbh.

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    Kevin stopped the Warriors trade at the deadline. He also made the Nets trade him to Suns. If KD wants the Spurs it's gonna happen. No team is going to give up significant assets for a 1 year KD rental. If he wants the Spurs he's here for the long haul.

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