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This. He was a proto Miles Bridges.
The human trafficking was a bull charge that wrecked Alvin's life right when he had gotten everything back together around ten years ago. The girl's story kept changing and charges were dropped. Cost Alvin a lot of money because everyone jumped the gun and assumed he was guilty because he was a bad person in the 80s and 90s.
This. He was a proto Miles Bridges.
Character issues aside when you put together the 12 best players to ever wear a Spurs’ jersey Robertson is on that team.
Oh, I agree, but he would never wear that uniform now.
I associate him with the "Game Boy: All Star Challenge" video game. Representing the Spurs.
Only person in NBA history to record a quadruple double with steals.
Has this been posted already? Harper vs Flagg one year ago. The game starts out looking like high school all star weekend but it gets pretty serious by the end. It really appears that they're similarly talented players. Our guy looks ultra compe ive and on track for s om.
^^^ Not relevant to this discussion, but I thought it interesting... Charles Bassey was MVP of the Jordan Brand Classic International Game as a HS freshman... other Spurs/former Spurs to win MVP of the Jordan Brand Classic: Thad Young, Harrison Barnes, De'Aaron Fox, Lonnie Walker, and of course... future Spur Dylan Harper.
Rucker Park vibes lol
Harden Vs Garnett. So exciting!
The more I dig into the numbers and watch this guy, the more I'm thinking that not only are the Spurs lucky to be able to draft him, he might be dodging a bad developmental situation by ending up on this spurs. I have major reservations about his ability to be a Harden-like heliocentric guy, mostly because his biggest weakness is off-the-dribble shooting. I think if he were drafted into a situation where he was asked to constantly create something from nothing, this would be a much bigger deal because teams would just build a wall in front of him and force him to make something from nothing. He shot <30% OTD last year, his FT% is nothing to write home about, and his shooting priors aren't great either. I think he lacks the ability to develop effective counters if he were tasked with full-time primary ball-handling duties and he might end up as a high-volume low-efficiency flawed initiator and develop some pretty bad habits early in his development.
On the other hand, playing with Wemby/Fox and eventually Castle gives him a much better path to success - I don't think he has the outlier speed or athleticism to consistently make something out of nothing at the next level without a consistent jumper, but attacking a bent defense or utilizing his underrated catch-and-shoot jumper is something he could very easily do in his first couple years of development while the OTD jumper comes. It makes for a much smoother transition into the league for him, although his counting stats may suffer compared to if he were otherwise "the guy" right away in, say, Brooklyn.
Was thinking more about Ron Harper's tweets... not that they are that big of a deal, but I'm wondering if part of his "let's wait until his name is called" talk is more about thinking (and maybe pushing the agenda) that Dylan should go #1.
Man we got ourselves a real alpha. He’s a man among boys willing himself to the basket. I think that ROTY is going to be a good compe ion between Flagg and Harper, unless Mitch buries him in the bench in favor of Vassell which would suck because this kid is the real deal
One of the reasons why Flagg would not be happy with Dallas, wouldn't it also be that he would have less chance of competing for the ROY? A price does not condition future salaries? And in this case, at Spurs, he would have been in the same situation anyway. Twice in a row is already exceptional. Three would be a miracle. He might have preferred to be in Washington.
Harper would paradoxically have a better chance of being ROY at Spurs than Flagg at Spurs. And there, we can imagine that it is Castle who is unhappy with Harper's arrival. Both risk being in compe ion to be Victor's darling. Already Castle was unhappy not to be considered a PG...
Chances for the ROY will be pick 6, 7, 8 or 9, in Washington, Brooklyn, Toronto or New Orleans.
I don't know, before the draft I said I'd be ecstatic getting a top 4 pick and I wasn't/didn't want to be greedy, but when we came so close to the number one pick, it stung, as Cooper was by far and away the guy I wanted. Also, the other reason being, I thought he'd fit so much better on the Spurs than anyone else in that top 4.
Again, I'm happy with the number 2 pick (absolutely can't complain) and we'll see what happens, but I feel Cooper is going to be great. In all honesty, I think I've talked myself into Harper being just as good as Flagg, but if I had the choice, I'd take Flagg every time. Not sure how many of you guys would take Harper over Cooper if you could choose either of them?
I was excited about the 3 guard lineup, but the closer we get to the draft, I keep thinking that as of now, none of the 3 are considered even good outside shooters. The lack of outside shooting is going to be tough playing all three together if at least 1 or 2 of them don't shoot at least average or above average from 3 point range. I also think all three of them kind of like the ball in their hands, then you have Victor, who also has the ball quite a bit. I'm not sure how all that will work out and if the three of them can all play off the ball.
On a positive note, there's still the possibility of Fox getting better automatically just by having more open looks from 3 point range than he's ever had in his entire career (just due to the attention other players on the team will get), and also Stephon is working his ass of this off-season as I completely knew he would, and I still believe all his hard work off the court/in practice will translate to the games like Kawhi was able to do (I think Steph is a similar type of worker and also someone that can take what he learns on the practice floor into the actual games [I don't remember the exact wording, but this is something Kawhi has said that a lot of players aren't able to do - take what they work on/learn in practice and do it in the actual games. I think he said some guys look great in practice, but can't do it in actual games when it counts])
Is he still tweeting stuff, or has he cooled off since the draft lottery? Man, I just don't know who I'd want if the Spurs could pick either of them. I don't know if it's because I've been following Cooper since the start of last season that I have a stronger feeling about him being great. They both have different qualities that could work out great. Cooper would be a better fit and the lineup would be more balance. The 3 guard lineup could have the potential to be absolutely lethal if it works out and the three are all able to play together and off of each other.
I'm starting to think if Harper's dad doesn't want him on the Spurs, I think it might simply be because he won't have the ball in his hands as much as on most of the other teams that could draft him. Even Dallas he will likely get the ball in his hands day 1. I think he might want him on a team where he can be the lead guard and get to run the show. He might be thinking he'll get held back on the Spurs. He might be thinking he won't have a chance for rookie of the year on the Spurs. It could just simply be due to that.
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the more i read all these posts about what papa harper thinks about the Spurs based on his tweets, the more i think back to my undergrad class on the conceptual problem of other minds.
Since Ron appears to be the secondary parent, I don’t care what he thinks. The mother is who you need to win over.
Dylan Harper is in a tier (second tier) of one.
You can't pass that up.
Well watch the Jordan Brand Classic. Harper looks a tier above Flagg.
The mere fact that some professional scouts/ don't think it's an outlandish idea that Harper may one day end up as a better player than Flagg makes this pick a no-brainer.
Contrary to many here, I think Flagg's having a higher translatable floor, therefore making him more bust-proof, is what separates him from Harper, and not his purported ceiling, which is still an open question.
I wasn't invested in the early months of the college season (didn't think we would have a good pick due to Hawks and us being average teams at the time) but I recall a narrative forming around January-ish that Harper was seriously challenging that #1 pick spot that Flagg seemed to have locked up. Harper played awesome his first 8ish weeks and Flagg was good, but not incredible which narrowed the perceived gap. Harper later missed a couple stretches of games due to ankle sprain I think and then an illness. He came back from both and had some really rough outings (pro Harper people would say it was lingering effects of injury/illness, anti Harper people would say he was fine and just sucked). Meanwhile, Flagg was healthy till the ankle sprain in the ACC tourney and was able to string together a good stretch of play re-solidifying his #1 ranking.
Flagg struggled early with his 3 point shooting, and if that would have continued, there would have been a race. He cleaned it up, and Harper had his own injury/illness struggles.
Didn’t know he was related to Ron Harper
i wouldn't mind winning her over, tbh.
Are you serious? Where have you been these past two weeks? I would have thought almost everyone knew that.
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