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    Richardson might be bpa at 14. You gotta take bpa.
    Richardson makes no sense at 14.

    At some point you need to draft for fit and put some forwards on the team.

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    Anyone else get Lonnie Walker vibes from VJ Edgecombe’s offense?
    They both have insane athleticism, dunk impressively, but struggle to finish at the rim when not dunking, and rely on the jumper to set up slashing drives because they don’t have particularly good handle.

    All indications are that they are totally different players on defense, where Walker never translated his physical gifts into good defense because his basketball IQ is barely above JR Smith levels.
    Everyone seems to think VJ will be a good defender.

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    Anyone else get Lonnie Walker vibes from VJ Edgecombe’s offense?
    They both have insane athleticism, dunk impressively, but struggle to finish at the rim when not dunking, and rely on the jumper to set up slashing drives because they don’t have particularly good handle.

    All indications are that they are totally different players on defense, where Walker never translated his physical gifts into good defense because his basketball IQ is barely above JR Smith levels.
    Everyone seems to think VJ will be a good defender.
    Yes, I made that comp a while back. VJ will be an elite defender. He’s disruptive as .

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    Anyone else get Lonnie Walker vibes from VJ Edgecombe’s offense?
    They both have insane athleticism, dunk impressively, but struggle to finish at the rim when not dunking, and rely on the jumper to set up slashing drives because they don’t have particularly good handle.

    All indications are that they are totally different players on defense, where Walker never translated his physical gifts into good defense because his basketball IQ is barely above JR Smith levels.
    Everyone seems to think VJ will be a good defender.
    VJ is going to be very good and looking back in a few years he might be the 2nd best player in this draft. The difference between him and Harper is less than the difference between Harper and Flagg.

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    scottspurs don't know if you caught this one but looks like Miles Byrd is withdrawing!

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    scottspurs don't know if you caught this one but looks like Miles Byrd is withdrawing!
    Yeah I saw that and Tahaad Pettiford. Class is thinning out but still pretty good

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    Adou Thiero is staying in the draft. I really like him as a top of the 2nd round prospect but I wonder if he got a guarantee from a team late in the 1st round.

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    Gleamed this from the RJ Felton Interview. Possibly Sean Pedulla worked out for San Antonio?
    RJ suggested he went against him in a workout - San Antonio, Phoenix or both…

    https://hoopshype.com/lists/meet-rj-...u-should-know/

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    Gleamed this from the RJ Felton Interview. Possibly Sean Pedulla worked out for San Antonio?
    RJ suggested he went against him in a workout - San Antonio, Phoenix or both…

    https://hoopshype.com/lists/meet-rj-...u-should-know/
    Nice find! I’ve been searching everyday for people who might have worked out with the spurs and it’s gone silent. I already had Felton on the list but not Pedulla

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    Didn't see this: SI's latest mock. The interesting bit is Demin is rising. They have him pegged at #8 to Brooklyn if they make that pick, which I think makes a lot of sense actually.

    https://www.si.com/onsi/fantasy/nba/...son-egor-demin

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    https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...s/83901607007/

    So Flagg was AI's No. 1 pick and Duke was well-represented among the top 10. The Google Gemini AI simulation also had a significant number of international prospects, both from the college ranks and professional clubs overseas, coming off the board in the first round. But each of the top eight picks projected by AI, and 15 of the first 16 selections, played college basketball during the 2024-25 season.
    Here's a breakdown of the 2025 NBA draft first-round picks made by a Google Gemini AI simulation, as well as how to watch next month when the league's teams gather in Brooklyn to make their actual selections:



    • Dallas Mavericks: F Cooper Flagg, Duke — "The Mavericks, with the surprise No. 1 pick, land the consensus top talent in Flagg. His two-way potential, athleticism, and scoring efficiency will be a massive boost to their post-Luka era."
    • San Antonio Spurs: G Dylan Harper, Rutgers — "The Spurs find their potential lead guard to pair with Victor Wembanyama. Harper brings size, on-ball versatility, and strong playmaking to San Antonio."
    • Philadelphia 76ers: F Ace Bailey, Rutgers — "Philadelphia secures an electric scoring wing in Bailey. His shot-making ability, size, and defensive versatility will inject instant firepower and a much-needed athletic presence."
    • Charlotte Hornets: G VJ Edgecombe, Baylor — "The Hornets add an elite athlete and dynamic scoring guard in Edgecombe. His explosiveness and disruptive defense will complement LaMelo Ball and Brandon Miller."
    • Utah Jazz: G Tre Johnson, Texas — "Utah gets a pure scorer and prolific shooter in Johnson. He projects as a young scoring guard who can consistently knock down shots."
    • Washington Wizards: G/F Kon Knueppel, Duke — "The Wizards pick a smart, fundamental player in Knueppel, known for his excellent shooting and overall basketball IQ. He'll be a versatile piece for their rebuild."
    • New Orleans Pelicans: C Khaman Maluach, Duke — "The Pelicans address their frontcourt with the massive and intriguing international prospect, Maluach. His size, instincts around the rim, and defensive upside are undeniable."
    • Brooklyn Nets: G Jeremiah Fears, Oklahoma — "Brooklyn takes a swing on the high-risk, high-reward point guard, Fears. His elite speed and ability to attack the rim could make him a dynamic offensive weapon."
    • Toronto Raptors: F Noa Essengue, Ratiopharm Ulm — "The Raptors select Essengue, a rapidly rising international prospect. His intriguing skill set and consistent shooting make him a valuable long-term investment."
    • Houston Rockets: G Kasparas Jakucionis, Illinois — "Houston adds a playmaker with good size and finishing ability in Jakucionis. He'll need to refine his game, but his potential as a connective piece is clear."
    • Portland Trail Blazers: C Derik Queen, Maryland — "The Blazers find a skilled big man in Queen, who can contribute inside with his crafty scoring and passing. He fills a need for Portland in the frontcourt."
    • Chicago Bulls: F Collin Murray-Broyles, South Carolina — "The Bulls grab a dynamic defender and capable interior scorer in Murray-Boyles. His defensive impact and physical play will be valuable."
    • Atlanta Hawks: G Cedric Coward, Washington State — "The Hawks pick up a versatile wing in Coward, who impressed at the combine with his athleticism and wingspan. He offers defensive upside and potential as a shooter."
    • San Antonio Spurs: F Carter Bryant, Arizona — "With their second lottery pick, the Spurs add another two-way wing in Bryant. He can defend and knock down shots, providing depth and versatility."
    • Oklahoma City Thunder: F Asa Newell, Georgia — "The Thunder select Newell, a quick and fluid big man who can rim-run and provide shot-blocking. His athleticism and motor fit OKC's style."
    • Orlando Magic: F Liam McNeeley, UConn — "The Magic bring in McNeeley, a smooth and natural shooter with a quick release. His offensive game should translate well."
    • Minnesota Timberwolves: G Egor Demin, BYU — "The Timberwolves add a versatile playmaker in Demin, who has wing size but guard-like decision-making abilities."
    • Washington Wizards: G Nolan Troare, Saint-Quentin — "The Wizards take another international swing with Traore, a speedy point guard who excels in ball screens. He offers high upside as a creator."
    • Brooklyn Nets: F Noah Penda, Le Mans — "The Nets continue to build with international talent, selecting Penda. He offers a blend of athleticism and developing skills."
    • Miami Heat: G Jase Richardson, Michigan State — "The Heat look for a dynamic guard in Richardson, who brings speed, scoring, and creation to the backcourt. He could provide instant bench spark."
    • Utah Jazz: G/F Nique Clifford, Colorado State — "The Jazz select Clifford, a senior wing with strong defensive instincts and a well-rounded offensive game."
    • Atlanta Hawks: F/C Rasheer Fleming, Saint Joseph's — "The Hawks pick a developing big man in Fleming, known for his athleticism and defensive potential."
    • Indiana Pacers: F/C Thomas Sorber, Georgetown — "The Pacers add size and interior presence with Sorber, a big man with good touch around the rim and a developing jumper."
    • Oklahoma City Thunder: F Will Riley, Illinois — "OKC adds more wing depth and shooting with Riley, who has shown good scoring flashes."
    • Orlando Magic: G/F Hugo Gonzalez, Real Madrid — "The Magic invest in another international talent in Gonzalez, an elite defensive wing with the potential to develop his offensive game."
    • Brooklyn Nets: G/F Ben Saraf, Ratiopharm Ulm — "The Nets utilize one of their multiple picks on Saraf, another promising international prospect who could develop into a versatile forward."
    • Brooklyn Nets: F Joan Beringer, Cedevita Olimpija — "With their fourth first-round pick, the Nets take another international swing with Beringer, adding more long-term potential to their roster."
    • Boston Celtics: F Danny Wolf, Michigan — "The Celtics pick up a skilled big man in Wolf, who has a developing offensive game and good passing ability for his size."

    • Phoenix Suns
      : C Maxime Raynaud, Stanford — "The Suns look to add more frontcourt depth and shooting with Raynaud, a skilled big who can stretch the floor."

    • Los Angeles Clippers
      : G/F Drake Powell, North Carolina — "The Clippers round out the first round with Powell, an active two-way player known for his defensive versatility and shot-blocking."

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    Yanic Konan Niederhauser is staying in the Draft. Wasn’t super productive in college but showed great athletic and measurement traits at the combine.

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    Philon withdrew too

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    With so few players declaring and many now returning for NIL money there are only about 90 players left. 2/3 of the players will get drafted, which is unheard of. Teams will do crazy things to get rid of second round picks.

    It’ll be interesting to see how things develop in the future with the value of second round picks. There are different possibilities depending on how people project it.

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    NIL should weaken drafts for a while, as people can return, but eventually the Seniors can't stay anymore - and you'll have more 2nd round guys who've stayed all 4 years, as they can make certain money as a college star until they've done four years, (and possibly have more fun on campus than as G league player) then enter the draft.

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    Top 60 2025 NBA Draft Board with tiers


    Since we now know who is in and out of the draft:


    Tier 1

    • Cooper Flagg



    Tier 2

    • Dylan Harper



    Tier 3

    • Tre Johnson
    • Derik Queen
    • Kasparas Jakucionis



    Tier 4

    • Ace Bailey
    • VJ Edgecombe



    Tier 5

    • Thomas Sorber
    • Cedric Coward
    • Kon Knueppel
    • Nique Clifford
    • Noa Essengue
    • Nolan Traore
    • Egor Demin
    • Jase Richardson



    Tier 6

    • Ben Saraf
    • Jeremiah Fears
    • Khaman Maluach
    • Noah Penda
    • Rasheer Fleming



    Tier 7

    • Maxime Raynaud
    • Asa Newell
    • Walter Clayton Jr.
    • Carter Bryant
    • Joan Beringer
    • Neoklis Avdalas



    Tier 8

    • Liam Mcneely
    • Collin Murray-Boyles
    • Will Riley
    • Adou Thiero
    • Danny Wolf
    • Sion James
    • Hansen Yang
    • Koby Brea
    • John Tonje
    • Micah Peavy
    • Chaz Lanier
    • Ryan Kalkbrenner
    • Johni Broome
    • Yanic Konan Niederhauser
    • Vladislav Goldin
    • Mouhamed Faye



    Tier 9

    • Rocco Zikarsky
    • Hugo Gonzalez
    • Bogoljub Markovic
    • Kam Jones
    • Drake Powell
    • Grant Nelson
    • Brice Williams
    • Alex Toohey
    • Mark Sears
    • Eric Dixon



    Tier 10

    • Tyrese Proctor
    • Ryan Nembhard
    • Tamar Bates
    • RJ Luis
    • Jamir Watkins
    • Dink Pate
    • Hunter Sallis
    • Kobe Sanders

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    Worked out/met with Spurs Tracker


    LJ Cryer, Guard - Houston
    Micah Peavy, Forward - Georgetown
    RJ Felton, Guard - East Carolina
    Jeremiah Fears, Guard - Oklahoma
    John Tonje, Guard - Wisconsin
    Sean Pedulla, Guard - Ole Miss
    Thomas Sorber, Big - Georgetown
    Cam Carter, Guard - LSU


    Maxime Raynaud, Big - Stanford (worked out with Wemby not Spurs)

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    LJ Cryer, Guard - Houston
    Micah Peavy, Forward - Georgetown
    RJ Felton, Guard - East Carolina
    Jeremiah Fears, Guard - Oklahoma
    John Tonje, Guard - Wisconsin
    Sean Pedulla, Guard - Ole Miss
    Thomas Sorber, Big - Georgetown
    Cam Carter, Guard - LSU


    Maxime Raynaud, Big - Stanford (worked out with Wemby not Spurs)
    I understand Sorber given his expected range, but Fears really stands out. I wonder if they think he might be one of the sliders if he's not picked by 6-7.

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    I understand Sorber given his expected range, but Fears really stands out. I wonder if they think he might be one of the sliders if he's not picked by 6-7.
    Probably just the Spurs doing due diligence. If they already have designs of trading Vassell and Nico goes wild and drafts Harper. Spurs would pick Flagg and the guards would come into play at 14. Have to be prepared for anything.

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    LJ Cryer, Guard - Houston
    Micah Peavy, Forward - Georgetown
    RJ Felton, Guard - East Carolina
    Jeremiah Fears, Guard - Oklahoma
    John Tonje, Guard - Wisconsin
    Sean Pedulla, Guard - Ole Miss
    Thomas Sorber, Big - Georgetown
    Cam Carter, Guard - LSU


    Maxime Raynaud, Big - Stanford (worked out with Wemby not Spurs)
    So many guards. Wtf

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    With so few players declaring and many now returning for NIL money there are only about 90 players left. 2/3 of the players will get drafted, which is unheard of. Teams will do crazy things to get rid of second round picks.

    It’ll be interesting to see how things develop in the future with the value of second round picks. There are different possibilities depending on how people project it.
    At some point these players will end up in the draft. You only have so many years of eligibility.

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    At some point these players will end up in the draft. You only have so many years of eligibility.
    This is true but it's debatable if they're going to be the same level of prospects. Say, Labaron Philon, who's a fringe 1st round pick and returned to school, doesn't have a great season - similarly to someone like Hunter Sallis a few years back. After 2, 3 years when he's older and enters the draft he'll be a different level of prospect, compared to freshman Philon.

    Of course it can work both ways for different players. Some will be better, some will be worse, but we know that freshmen are generally given the benefit of the doubt more than seniors and are taken higher. It's not an exact science and it's difficult to project how it'll go, so it'll be interesting to see.

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    So many guards. Wtf
    Next summer, we’ll be replacing Malaki and Wesley. It’s better if those picks get a year of experience under their belt.

    We also may have up to 5 open spots this summer.

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