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LaRavia is a good option. Adding Lopez would be pretty difficult if we trade for KD.
My guess:
Brook Lopez backup center. Gets to hang with his buddy Mitch.
KD will be a Spur if that’s what he wants or Wemby wants.
I’m a big Jake LaRavia fan. Buy low there.
Spurs still need to find a 3 or 3/4 hybrid. I thought last season they needed to grab TM3 while no one was paying attention to him. It’s too late now.
LaRavia is a good option. Adding Lopez would be pretty difficult if we trade for KD.
I don't remember Giannis in his first couple of years, but what makes you say that his body/frame could handle the extra weight? How are you able to tell if someone's body type can handle extra muscle/weight? I remember Giannis being skinny as a rake.
Why? MLE would cover most of his salary.
I like it. If they're able to get Carter Bryant at 14, that would help address your hybrid needs.
yes and after that you'd only have 5.1 million and minimum contracts left to fill out 4 more roster spots.
*edit: you can't sign Lopez and LaRavia. The MLE is 14.1 million. If you throw the entire MLE at Brook, you only have 5.1 million left. LaRavia should get something in the ballpark of 10 million. He's not gonna sign for the BAE of 5.1 million.
Last edited by RC_Drunkford; 05-29-2025 at 08:47 AM.
Today (tomorrow will be different)
- Trade #14, Vassell, KJ, and Sochan to Phoenix for Durant. ...stopping short of building a proper 3 or 4 team extravaganza.
- Sign Kornet, unless he gets a Hartenstein like offer from someone.
- Bring back CP3 (I understand I'm on an island here)
- Bring back Biyombo (great depth player to have)
- Reward Champ - listening to Hollinger & Duncan reviewing veterans eligible for an extension, Champ was mentioned. I can see him getting a similar deal to Tre Jones a couple of years ago. So, maybe a total bag of $20-30M inbound.
Starting Lineup: Wemby, Durant, Champ, Castle, Fox
Rotational: Harper, Barnes, Kornet, CP3
Bench: Wesley, #38 (7-ft project).
Comments:
- Shooting efficiency will prime motivating factors for either Castle or Harper to earn the starting gig.
- CP3 (minimal playing time), he's being brought back to assist Mitch.
- Will be a relief to have three bigs on the roster (Wemby's a free spirit in this context) if we have a project @38 worth a little excitement, plus Kornet and Biyombo.
If we trade for KD I'd do a semi all-in move without getting rid of a lot of assets. My ideal scenario would probably be:
Vassell + Barnes and #14 for KD
3-Team deal where we ship out Keldon and get PJ Washington from Dallas by returning their 2030 swap. Something like Keldon to Nets, D-Lo sign and trade to Mavs, PJ to Spurs. Might have to throw in #38 and another 2nd rounder to Brooklyn.
trade a bunch of 2026 second round picks to move up into the late first round and draft Rasheer Fleming.
Sign Brook Lopez for the MLE
Sign Alec Burks for veteran minimum.
sign Riley Minnix
Keep one open roster spot as well as Wesley and Branham on the team for a deal at the deadline.
We'd be 3 million under the tax with this roster:
Fox/Harper/Wesley
Castle/Burks/Branham
Durant/Champagnie/Minnix
PJ Washington/Sochan/Fleming
Wembanyama/Lopez
plenty of size, shooting and defense with a lot of players who can play multiple positions.
Yeah, PJ would be very useful. He'll probably show up on future iterations.
Im curious to see what the LaRavia market comes in at.
In any case, I'm less concerned about filling out the backend of the roster. That was basically going to be the scenario anyway if we were also expecting a trade.
You'll have you a solid core group:
Fox/Harper
Castle/Champ
HB/Bryant
KD/Sochan
Wembs/Lopez
Deep Bench: Maliki; Wesley; Mamu
I don't get the overpay proposals for 37 year old, injury prone, needs and extension, KD.
What team, that KD will agree to go to mind you, is throwing a mega offer for him?
-- Houston has eyes for Giannis
-- Lol at the idea of returning to the Nets
-- KD already squashed trades to Memphis, GSW
-- OKC has clearly moved on
-- Best one is Miami, but what do they offer that wont gut their team? And, if its a Wiggins-centered deal, is that better than a package built around Dev/Keldon/Maliki?
TL;DR --- LOLOLOL Suns!!
Trade Devin + 14 + 3 future 2nds to Brooklyn for Cam + 19 +26
Trade Keldon + Barnes + 19 to phoenix for KD
Draft Raynaud/ Kalkbrenner at 26 and Harper @ 2 and Chaz Lanier @ 38
Fox/CP3
Harper/Castle
Cam/NAW/Champagnie
KD/Sochan/Portis
Wemby/Kalkbrenner/ vet C
Probably resign Mamu and use the exceptions on maybe Portis or Royce O'Neale and NAW
We keep the core of Wemby, Fox, Castle, Sochan (signed with a reasonable 3Y 12M/year contract), Harper and make some moves to get a decent backup big and a long wing player that can defend and shoot.
Last edited by SpurSpike; 05-29-2025 at 01:08 PM.
Another idea.
Devin, '30 DAL swap returned, 4 SRPs (Mavs have none) for PJ Washington and Gafford.
Keldon, #14 for Cam Johnson.
Fox/Harper
Castle/Champ
Cam/Barnes
Washington/Jeremy
Wemby/Gafford
Three man guard rotation with 4 good wing shooters and Jeremy. Wemby would also have a great backup.
Can also go for KD instead of Cam, but it would be a bit more difficult if Devin is already gone.
Wemby finds a really good allergist.
i agree with drunkford. if we're going to land KD, i dont know if KD/Barnes or KD/Keldon really makes sense. flipping the change + a pick for PJ Washington would make much more sense. KD/PJ at the forward spots would be pretty great
if you're making win now trades, you might as well do them til you have a win now roster instead of halfassing it. Not saying that I'm for it, but only adding KD would still leave plenty holes in the roster. And weather or not we get him, I want PJ Washington regardless.
This one is my favorite so far, so long as the guys traded for are willing to extend at reasonable cost. Maybe you try and get 26 out of Brooklyn in the deal as well.
What do you think of Gafford, and specifically his defense and ability to hang with some of the bigger centers? Is he a long term backup option or someone you just let roll off in a year when his contract expires?
I'd assume you still have MLE and BAE to round out the roster in this scenario?
I’d like to see Steven Adams in a Spurs uniform. I like much of what I’m seeing in terms of draft and moving Keldon and or Vassell for pieces. Should be a good offseason
Any avenues to acquiring Lively from Dallas? At what cost? Would his game mesh with Wemby? ... Ultimately I don't see this as viable, but still curious. While he's on the right timeline as far as age is concerned, a 2nd contract might be a bad fit since Wemby will be getting his first, and we'll have Castle and Harper (RIGHT!?) to manage next.
91 games in 2 seasons is not good either. Now that I think about it, I don't have a lot memories built up to even understand his style. Is he on a Blake Griffin-lite trajectory, minus any semblance of a 3?
I believe I have talked myself out of this.
It would depend on his ambition.
To me he's one of those high energy guys who look way better in a limted role, any team getting him and expecting 30+ minutes of consistent production would be in for a rude awakening.
His extension would obviously depend on his performance and chemistry with the team.
I wouldn't do that trade if Washington doesn't agree on an extension right away.
My general idea regardless of wings we get is that Harper needs to get 30mpg if he's as good as advertised.I'd assume you still have MLE and BAE to round out the roster in this scenario?
Fox/Castle/Harper guard rotation with two of them always being on the floor, easy enough to distribute 96 minutes between them.
Wings who are all great shooters (except Jeremy, ugh), whoever has the hot hand gets more minutes.
Wemby and Gafford could play some minutes together in certain matchup if we get outmuscled too much.
I don't expect to be a legit contender right away regardless of who we get, so we don't need to use all the exceptions if the rotation is set.
Wesley can be the emergency third (fourth?) PG option, we wouldn't really need any more guards and we'd be stacked on the wings.
As for cap space, it's projected to rise by ~$15M each season.
Spurs would be at around $155M with these trades and Harper, right at the line for 25-26 season.
26-27 is projected at $170M, with luxury line being at ~$207M.
Wesley, Branham would be gone, that's ~$10M extra space.
Jeremy would be up for an extension, I wouldn't offer him more than 50/4 unless he drastically improves his shooting.
Barnes' $19M would be off the books, I'd offer him another 2 year extension, 20/2 would be fair.
Fox extension is projected to be at 230/4, I'd offer him a 3+1 deal because that's when Harper's extension kicks in. I guess it would start around 52-55 million for the first season? At least 15 more than the last year of his current contract.
With Wemby/Castle/Harper contracts rising and Cam Johnson's decreasing deal, that would be around ~$170M on the books, $37M below the luxury line.
Washington and Gafford can fit in there.
Wemby, Fox, Castle, Harper, Sochan, Cam, Washington, Gafford, Cam on the roster as the 9 man rotation.
'26 ATL swap rookie if Spurs want to use it and fill the rest with minimum contracts.
If we don't extend Jeremy or Barnes we don't even have to dip in the luxury.
While we're at luxury:
It's time for Holts to spend some money.
that's more my type of deal. Been saying Washington and Gafford would be great fits. We also might be able to snag Washington in a multi-team deal.
Rumors say the Lakers want Gafford and Dallas wants Jrue Holiday.
Lakers get Gafford
Mavs get Holiday
Spurs get Washington
Celtics get Keldon and Vincent's expiring
Add draft compensation how you see fit. Mavs would have to send out another small filler like Prosper or Hardy or offload them to the Nets for example.
Of course it would be smarter for the Celtics to just take PJ instead of Keldon, but it depends if they want him or not.
I already made a 3-way trade suggestion with Dallas getting Jrue.
Spurs
Washington
Gafford
Celtics
Devin
Powell (salary match)
'28 swap returned
Mavs
Jrue
'30 swap returned
Spurs probably wouldn't mind this one because Devin would be going to a good team, they don't like sending their supposedly good players into bad situations.
I'm one of the folks who have been at the head of the LaRavia bandwagon for awhile now, but I can't see it happening unless we are making some significant move elsewhere. I can see the Spurs adding a rookie wing... but I don't see them adding LaRavia without first moving one or more of Vassell, Johnson, Champagnie and maybe even Sochan.
This isn't necessarily the right thread to discuss this... but I'm gonna start discussing it in more and more threads...
Hear me out...
Steph Castle is a SF.
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