Future Spur: Dylan Harper

[Knoxxx]

I think Ron Harper will turn into a huge Spurs fan all the sudden after the draft. The idea you wouldn’t want your son with a highly regarded franchise playing with the Alien makes DH out to be a lot stupider than he probably is. Plus basketball season takes the summer off, when SA becomes an intolerable inferno for about 3 months in a row.

[scott]

det paul george haul tho...

that and getting 2 firsts and CP3 for westbrook

The true meta build is difficult to put together and requires cir stances falling exactly your way at some point... but I really think its: get a big haul for one of your players at some point; luck into your star and core; built a talent pipeline where you can fill your roster with cheap talent on rookie deals; flip that cheap talent right before they become expensive to replenish the picks by which to refill the talent pipeline; rinse; repeat.

Spurs are set up quite nicely do to this around Wemby/Castle/Fox, which is why I wouldn't hate it if we traded out of of 14 for some more future assets. If we could somehow get some assets out of the Power of Friendship that would be extra cherry, but I'm not really counting on it.

Danny Boy missed the boat and should have cashed in on Lauri last summer.

[exstatic]

The true meta build is difficult to put together and requires cir stances falling exactly your way at some point... but I really think its: get a big haul for one of your players at some point; luck into your star and core; built a talent pipeline where you can fill your roster with cheap talent on rookie deals; flip that cheap talent right before they become expensive to replenish the picks by which to refill the talent pipeline; rinse; repeat.

Spurs are set up quite nicely do to this around Wemby/Castle/Fox, which is why I wouldn't hate it if we traded out of of 14 for some more future assets. If we could somehow get some assets out of the Power of Friendship that would be extra cherry, but I'm not really counting on it.

Danny Boy missed the boat and should have cashed in on Lauri last summer.

Yup. You rarely see him up cashing out assets, but that was dumb. It’ll be very difficult to get anything for a contract that size for, at best, a #3 option.

[mo7888]

I really think its: get a big haul for one of your players at some point; luck into your star and core; built a talent pipeline where you can fill your roster with cheap talent on rookie deals; flip that cheap talent right before they become expensive to replenish the picks by which to refill the talent pipeline; rinse; repeat.

That is why I don't think we keep Harper and Castle if they both pan out in a few years.

[spurraider21]

Yup. You rarely see him up cashing out assets, but that was dumb. It’ll be very difficult to get anything for a contract that size for, at best, a #3 option.

its not even necessariliy because the contract is "bad"... but just by virtue of having to come up with that much salary you are inevitably requiring teams to give up some valuable players, which means they'll be less likely to also throw in the amount of draft comp you wanted. much easier to ask a team for 17 mil in filler + picks as opposed to 46

[scott]

I think Ron Harper will turn into a huge Spurs fan all the sudden after the draft. The idea you wouldn’t want your son with a highly regarded franchise playing with the Alien makes DH out to be a lot stupider than he probably is. Plus basketball season takes the summer off, when SA becomes an intolerable inferno for about 3 months in a row.

I think he thinks his son should go #1 (and who could blame a dad for believing that, and really it's not like it's that far fetched an argument) or maybe wants him to play for the hometown team. I don't get the sense that Harper just hates the Spurs.

[Dejounte]

Ron sacrificed to play with Jordan, I don’t think he’ll be that bad of an influence

[exstatic]

Ron sacrificed to play with Jordan, I don’t think he’ll be that bad of an influence

He was damaged goods at that point. Back in the day, you were lucky to ever play again after an ACL, and you were never the same.

[Manu&Duncan fan]

That's why I find it amusing that so many fans want to get Durant and play above Harper.

Harper will be a star in a couple pf years. We need to develop him like that.

[Dejounte]

He was damaged goods at that point. Back in the day, you were lucky to ever play again after an ACL, and you were never the same.

So he was still humbled by something

[Biggems]

I am excited to see Castle, Fox, and Harper on the same roster.

[Mr. Body]

Ron Harper was okay playing fourth fiddle to Jordan or whatever, but that doesn't mean he's okay with his son doing the same. A lot of men try to live through their sons to achieve what they didn't.

Absolutely not saying this is the case - just saying human psychology, especially masculine psychology, because men are ed up weirdos, doesn't work the way we expect some times. Again, I don't think Ron Harper is going to be a problem whatsoever.

[Guru of Nothing]

If the Spurs draft Harper, I expect to see Harper Sr at games cheering for the Spurs.

[Knoxxx]

If the Spurs draft Harper, I expect to see Harper Sr at games cheering for the Spurs.

Exactly and he’ll be welcomed like an old friend by the big 3, Drob, and co. I think he’ll feel right at home along for the ride. Imagine too when we lure the necessary frontcourt role players the Spurs will be a juggernaut who wouldn’t want to be an insider along for that kind of a ride?

[Manu&Duncan fan]

If the Spurs draft Harper, I expect to see Harper Sr at games cheering for the Spurs.

Yes. Very often in life, your worst enemy can become your best supporter if you show sincere respect and love.

[rankingtear]

Yes. Very often in life, your worst enemy can become your best supporter if you show sincere respect and love.

Cmon man, wtf is happening to this forum. Can we pink or ban manuxduncan for posting this.

[Manu&Duncan fan]

Cmon man, wtf is happening to this forum. Can we pink or ban manuxduncan for posting this.

You don't believe Ron Harper can be a die-hard fan of Spurs? I do.

[exstatic]

You don't believe Ron Harper can be a die-hard fan of Spurs? I do.

He won’t. He’s First Evangelical Church of Phil Jackson.

[jesterbobman]

I posted in the general draft board early that Harper is incredible (in November or something). A comfortable #2.

I can understand why Harper Snr might not love the Spurs fit in the short term- there are established guards who need the ball as they're only OK off ball, he won't have a team to himself like he would if he landed in Washington / Utah / Brooklyn...but if he looks at the future, there's not a better long term fit than a pairing with Wemby.

[SpursGenius]

I am excited to see Castle, Fox, and Harper on the same roster.

Me too . I see Fox as eventual 6th man of the year energizer bunny off the Bench. Harper will be our SGA. Castle hopefully Jalen Williamss. Vic Holmgreen times 2.

[Mr. Body]

Me too . I see Fox as eventual 6th man of the year energizer bunny off the Bench. Harper will be our SGA. Castle hopefully Jalen Williamss. Vic Holmgreen times 2.

I don't see any way that Fox willingly comes off the bench, at all.

[SpursGenius]

I don't see any way that Fox willingly comes off the bench, at all.

Then trade his ass for 4 first rounders. Harper is the truth

[John B]

Sr wants his kid drafted 1st. He’s not conceding his kid is 2nd until the name is called. What father would? But expect Ron Harper to support his son in San Antonio if he’s taken at #2, whether Sr is First Evangelical Church of Phil Jackson or The True Church of Tex Winter.

[Ice009]

I posted in the general draft board early that Harper is incredible (in November or something). A comfortable #2.

I can understand why Harper Snr might not love the Spurs fit in the short term- there are established guards who need the ball as they're only OK off ball, he won't have a team to himself like he would if he landed in Washington / Utah / Brooklyn...but if he looks at the future, there's not a better long term fit than a pairing with Wemby.

Yeah, this is what I think he doesn't like. I think he expected him to land on one of those teams where he'd have the team to himself and it would be built around Dylan instead. He might even prefer Dallas as he'd be the starting guard there too. He'd probably start in on all of those teams except the Spurs.

I remember he said it could be special when one fan asked him about playing for the Spurs and with Victor (I think he can at least see that), but I think he's got real reservations about him being buried behind a bunch of other players and not getting the keys to a team.

Like Exstatic also said, he's from the Phil Jackson school and went against the Spurs when he was with the Lakers, so I doubt he'll ever truly be a Spurs fan (never know, he might come around due to the Spurs having a special player like Victor and other really good players). If any of you guys had a kid/s good enough to be drafted in the NBA as a star level player/s, how would you feel if the Lakers drafted them? Would you be OK with it? I don't think I'd be too happy at all (I may or may not come around), so I guess if I look at it that way, I could see why he wouldn't be too keen on it.

Also, what John_B said could also be true - that he thinks his son should be the number 1 pick, so that could also be a factor. He's not willing to concede he's number 2.

[Ni-G]

Ron Harper. He's just a father not an uncle and Spurs will not waste such a talent by playing him out of position. It's number 2 pick FFS not some 9th that you can throw around from PG to C. :-)
Draft BPA and figure fit later. We can always trade worst or oldest guard of 3 if it doesn't work.