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Ok. Lets talk again in May 2027.
Yes.I meant 5th option average for the next 3 years.
Say, 2026 3rd option; 2027 5th; 2028 8th option.
FAIR Salary wise, 2026 $40 million; 2027 $20; 2028 $10 Million.
Similar to $53, MLE; MLE.
Am I still insane?
Ok. Lets talk again in May 2027.
Pacers too. How many veterans do they have?
We already have Barns, Fox. Still need to sign a couple. More than enough to take down Thunders and Paces in 2 years.
Most people here underestimate the talent of our Big 4.
He may in fact be completely broken in 2028... but, the insane thing is thinking he'll agree to any kind of deal where he's getting $10MM to be the 8th option. He'll just retire at that point.Ok. Lets talk again in May 2027.
I think there are decent cases to be made for wanting him, or not wanting him... but the "I'll take him under these completely unrealistic conditions" posts are just insanity. Just say you don't want him. It's kind of like last summer when people would chime in to say "I'll give Ainge 2 SRPs and Branham for Lauri". Okay, we get it... you don't want him. You can just say that.
Gnsf is back in full throat. We are truly establishing a new golden age of ST
I totally agree with you. I don't really want him to slow down the development of our young guys. That's why I'm so cheap on him.
Here is what I meant: if he is willing to discount himself in order to get a few more rings. I'm ok with that. Spurs offer the best chance.
I understand that he will find better trade with better role and money.
His name only still worth a lot. Any team with Durant will sell more tickets. But not Spurs.
The chance of us trading for Durant or Giannis is less than the chance Dallas picks Harper.
I'm with you on that his length would definitely help. Also Barnes is our worst defender together with Keldon, so KD would be an upgrade on both ends. He might even play harder here than on the Suns. Seemed checked out a bit over there.
which is why KD to the Spurs would help them shave off 11 million from their payroll. Also Barnes expiring would give them some more salary relief the season after.
Yes and that's exactly what our players need. One playoff run where they get their butts kicked, so they understand what it takes to win in the postseason. Every championship team had to go through that.
The goal should clearly be to get in the playoffs this season. Then the season after we can talk about contending. That's a pretty good trajectory.
The Pacers were in the ECF last season. You clearly underestimate how Wemby will struggle to score once Alex Caruso bearhugs him from behind.
Nobody is trading #2 for Durant. They can get #14 and that's it.
Too bad we didn't land #1, we might have been able to trade for LeBron.
Between size, career impact, and play style, pretty good career comp between KD and Nowitzki as GOAT level supersized jump shooters. Dirk also offers a pretty good estimate of how Durant is going to age over the next few years.
3 popular trade targets in Collins, PJ, and Cam Johnson also included for reference.
Graph measures impact, dependent on team context, etc. etc.
Thank you Scott for educating me!
I was so stupid! Expecting Durant accepting 5th role and MLE is like expecting a retired San Antonio mayor is work as a janitor.
Only a saint is humble enough to do that.
He already won 2 le and won't be able and no need to lower his ego like that.
There's a better chance of that (in the scenario I mentioned) than the Suns trading Durant for #14.
Homers have taken him no longer being worth a historic haul as him not being worth much at all, as if there isn't a chasm between those two extremes.
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you are falling for a mock draft written by Spurs hater Kevin O‘Connor who said on multiple occasions that he doesn’t want to see Harper go to San Antonio. Phoenix doesn’t have much leverage here, no matter what KD is worth in your eyes.
/RC_DrunkfordYes and that's exactly what our players need. One playoff run where they get their butts kicked, so they understand what it takes to win in the postseason. Every championship team had to go through that.
The goal should clearly be to get in the playoffs this season. Then the season after we can talk about contending. That's a pretty good trajectory.
Spurs have the assets now to really push them to contenders. 14th pick is unlikely to contribute this season, but is possible.
Vassell is out of position now with Harper getting drafted.
Fox, Castle and Harper's stock might even drop as the fit isn't ideal.
West isn't getting worse.
Do we? And what are we considering to be contenders? It's just my opinion, but I don't think we still have a decent ways to go (both in what's on the roster now developing further and the holes to fill) and we don't really have a deep war chest of assets. We have no excess FRPs after this year, and it's not like we have a depth of promising young talent to trade for win now pieces either.
I'm optimistic on our future, but I don't think we are that close to being contenders next year. I agree with the premise we need to first take that leap into the playoffs much like OKC did two years ago and HOU did last year. I think we could be contenders in 2 years *if* everything goes just right... but I don't see us being legit contenders next year (just like I didn't view Houston as a legit contender this year).
I wonder if the Spurs can entice Phoenix by offering to absorb one of their smaller contracts like Royce O'Neale or Cody Martin into the Spurs MLE as part of the Durant deal. Saves them a lot of tax money, and they can have a couple of seconds back if they want. It would have to be structured as a separate trade but the teams could agree to the entire package in principle and treat it as separate trades for CBA purposes.
People are forgetting who they are building around, aside from an elite downhill guard which spurms have already secured for his whole career in Fox + Castle, he needs to play with a high on ball gravity big wing.
Are you actually a Spurs fan? Because if you are, stop calling them "Spurms." No actual Spurs fan calls the team that.
It’s not about homerism. They shopped him around at the deadline without his knowledge, and he’s done. They have to move him before training camp, and he’ll go at a discount because the PHO organization are a bunch of clueless noobs.
Yeah, if I'm the Spurs, I'm not including Harper in a trade for KD at his current age. If he were younger, I'd consider it, but no way would I do it now. And as for Jakucionis, what spot would the Spurs pick him at if they were actually interested?
The Wolves trying to trade for Durant during the season recalls that they could try again.
Randle opted in, and the #17 pick plus whatever it took to match salaries would be a better offer than a conservative Spurs offer built around Vassell and 14. Has to be an opt in because I don't think the Sun's can accept a sign and trade
If Durant wants to be in Texas he needs to apply pressure.
Spurs have 10 outright bonus second round picks plus 5 of their own unen bered from swaps through 2031.
Being able to throw 10 seconds into a trade would be quite the record breaker
not necessarily. Timberpups are a luxury tax team themselves. That means they can’t take back more salary than they send out. Which makes a deal that much harder because neither can Phoenix. They would need a third team to absorb some salary. With Naz Reid expiring as well as Alexander-Walker and Randle having a player option that could get quite complicated.
If Naz opts out and Randle opts in they could trade a McDaniels/Randle package. But they won’t be under the cap, thus not able to absorb any extra salary that Phoenix sends out into cap space to lower their tax bill.
Are we sure we even need to send out 14 for KD? Which of the teams that Durant would agree to be moved to is sending PHX a mega package for him?
It’s really Miami and a Wiggins centered deal. Houston will prioritize Giannis or Brown.
Vasseldonaki should be plenty.
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