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    Epstein and Diddy - Just saying two proud Democrats
    Lol Diddy ain't nothing and Epstein was Trump's best friend for like two decades.

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    With Malone, it’s not only the on court stuff. He raped a 13 YO girl, and then denied paternity and ignores the daughter to this day. He’s a piece of .
    Nah it was a son, Demetress Bell, who played four years in the NFL. Warm Karl spent years fighting paying child support to that poor girl he raped, the millionaire bag he is.

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    Pick #2 strategy:

    1. Tell Brooklyn to go their mothers some more when they call offering #8 and Cam
    2. Draft Harper

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    I think the reason nowadays Duncan isn't pegged 'generational' is because his player archetype was prevalent at the time (back-to-the-basket, fundamentally-sound big)..But if you read the press clippings pre-1997 draft he was definitely considered the next big, sure-thing. "Teams are tanking for him" was a well do ented chatter during that season. But I agree with the poster above, that the term 'generational' gets thrown around too liberally these days. Look no further than the Flagg case whose (over)hype reeks of typical "America next great white hope" discourse. Maybe I'm wrong because i'm not well versed in college hoops, but from what've watched I saw a Tatum-like well-rounded package, but nothing gets an (A+) in his game (at least so far). I don't think Flagg will be nearly as impactful as Doncic was for Dallas in his first six seasons (the latter was a generational offensive wizard/engine from the get go)..
    Agreed on all counts. I see Flagg as probably being All-NBA caliber, but I don't see an offensive "engine" in the making and while he'll probably be All-Defensive team caliber, as a 4/3 he can't be a defensive anchor either, so MVP caliber, let alone "generational" talent seems a bridge too far.


    Duncan as a generational prospect is a borderline case for me.Theres a good case to be made that he was.
    Expectations were very high for him.
    But did people expect him to be better than Shaq (he was) and a top 10 all time player?
    I don’t think they were quite that high and that’s why he barely missed the cut for me.

    To be clear, I have TD as the 5th best player all time, and I had huge expectations when we won that lottery, so I get that perhaps I’m landing on the wrong side here
    Fair enough. I'm not old enough to speak to whether the consensus was that Duncan would be better than O'Neal or a top 10 player of all time and don't recall ever hearing or reading anything of that sort.

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    the zion news makes giannis in play again, with NOP holding 3 years of draft pick control of MIL and a desperate GM and franchise, getting Scoot would save their jobs tbh.

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    the zion news makes giannis in play again, with NOP holding 3 years of draft pick control of MIL and a desperate GM and franchise, getting Scoot would save their jobs tbh.
    The GM isn't desperate. He's brand new. He's got time.

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    The GM isn't desperate. He's brand new. He's got time.
    This is the new GM of the Pels after the zion allegations.

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    The smokescreens might confuse the casuals but Scoot 2.0 for Giannis has always been the play after the lottery win. The West is too stacked to play dynasty fantasy basketball. We are going to exhaust all our assets just to get a playoff berth and field a non contender if we draft Scoot 2.0.

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    The smokescreens might confuse the casuals but Scoot 2.0 for Giannis has always been the play after the lottery win. The West is too stacked to play dynasty fantasy basketball. We are going to exhaust all our assets just to get a playoff berth and field a non contender if we draft Scoot 2.0.
    How are we going to exhaust all our assets if we don't make a trade? Are you saying if the Spurs take Harper, they won't be able to get as much for him at a later date in trade?

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    Similar to how Nico would be stupid to actually take anyone other than Flagg @ #1 (meaning if he wants someone else, he should trade down)... I hope if we don't want Harper we are trading down and getting paid (but mostly I hope we just take Harper).

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    The smokescreens might confuse the casuals but Scoot 2.0 for Giannis has always been the play after the lottery win. The West is too stacked to play dynasty fantasy basketball. We are going to exhaust all our assets just to get a playoff berth and field a non contender if we draft Scoot 2.0.
    I’m not sure why you call him Scoot 2.0, but I am sure it’s a dumb take. Harper is bigger, a better distributor, and unlike Scoot in a gleague devoid of shot blockers, Harper finishes at an elite 77% in the restricted area. He’s kind of the anti-Scoot.

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    I fully believe the Spurs were keen on trading up fairly aggressively had they stayed at 8/9, targeting Edgecombe or Johnson. I'm sure they're ecstatic to be where they are, but also very surprised. Landing 1 or 3 or 4 gave them players who more or less fit while 2 is pretty weird.

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    Similar to how Nico would be stupid to actually take anyone other than Flagg @ #1 (meaning if he wants someone else, he should trade down)... I hope if we don't want Harper we are trading down and getting paid (but mostly I hope we just take Harper).
    Agreed. I know the Spurs work within their own bubble but they would surely be aware of how highly rated Harper is overall with respect to this class. They are in the driver’s seat with #2 which usually has boded well for them if such negotiations were to transpire eg. George Hill, Dejounte, Fox trades

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    Isn't VJ supposedly not a very good ball handler? I thought I read his ball handling isn't great, so not sure why they would pass up Harper for him. VJ could end up being great, but unless they trade down and get a good package, not sure why the article says they'd consider picking him at no. 2.

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    Isn't VJ supposedly not a very good ball handler? I thought I read his ball handling isn't great, so not sure why they would pass up Harper for him. VJ could end up being great, but unless they trade down and get a good package, not sure why the article says they'd consider picking him at no. 2.
    This is something that confuses me most about draft evaluations, ball handling. If there's any skill that can be most improved in the NBA, it's ball handling.

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    the only way I could see the Spurs entertaining a Harper trade is if:

    1: there is concern with his role coming off the bench and his dad in his ear (Uncle Dennis 2.0?)

    2: Spurs view multiple players mocked in the top 10 as potential All-Stars


    In that case they might entertain a #2 to the Nets for #8, #19, Knicks 2027 and maybe one more pick. Send Phoenix the Knicks pick for KD and package #14 and #19 to get another pick in the top 10.

    Like if their scouting department is sure a player like Essengue is a future All-Star or Maluach is Gobert 2.0 (insert any other players you want), then they might go for it. Still seems far fetched though.

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    the only way I could see the Spurs entertaining a Harper trade is if:

    1: there is concern with his role coming off the bench and his dad in his ear (Uncle Dennis 2.0?)

    2: Spurs view multiple players mocked in the top 10 as potential All-Stars


    In that case they might entertain a #2 to the Nets for #8, #19, Knicks 2027 and maybe one more pick. Send Phoenix the Knicks pick for KD and package #14 and #19 to get another pick in the top 10.

    Like if their scouting department is sure a player like Essengue is a future All-Star or Maluach is Gobert 2.0 (insert any other players you want), then they might go for it. Still seems far fetched though.
    Agreed. The Spurs have at times been known to march to the beat of their own drum... they may come up with an opinion on their board that differs from "the consensus" and that is where a trade down scenario starts to come into play. I sure as hope it's not for ing Cam Johnson though.

    From my own personal POV... I hope they just land on Harper being clearly above everyone else and just take him. I've fallen in love with concept of this 3-headed guard monster.

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    or Maluach is Gobert 2.0 (insert any other players you want), then they might go for it. Still seems far fetched though.

    even if they believed maluach has a gobert kind of ceiling i still don't see why PATFO would be interested. this whole 'twin towers' concept is incredibly outdated and there isn't much evidence of it working in the league today. it'd only make sense to draft him to fill the back-up big void which, while important, feels like a waste at two.

    i doubt he's on the board beyond pick five or six so trading down with someone like BKN doesn't seem like much of a viable option either.

    wemby is the team's center. he has been statistically far better at the five on both ends on the floor and evidence shows that pairing him with another seven-footer severely cramps his style and diminishes his effectiveness. he took a massive production leap when the team kicked collins to the bench and moved wemby from PF to C early in his rookie season.


    the french national team didn't learn from this and initially kicked wemby to PF to accommodate gobert at the olympics. the result being wemby was anonymous and france barely scraped through the group stages. their coach finally saw sense, dropped gobert and moved wemby back to center which transformed the team's fortunes. they go from nearly losing to brazil in the groups to almost taking down the greatest basketball team ever assembled in the gold-medal game.


    what the team needs in the frontcourt to pair with wemby long-term is a stretch four of sochan's size that can actually shoot. i hope that krysten peek report is just speculation. unless they're coming off the bench a paint-clogging big is the last thing the team needs IMO.

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    even if they believed maluach has a gobert kind of ceiling i still don't see why PATFO would be interested. this whole 'twin towers' concept is incredibly outdated and there isn't much evidence of it working in the league today. it'd only make sense to draft him to fill the back-up big void which, while important, feels like a waste at two.

    i doubt he's on the board beyond pick five or six so trading down with someone like BKN doesn't seem like much of a viable option either.

    wemby is the team's center. he has been statistically far better at the five on both ends on the floor and evidence shows that pairing him with another seven-footer severely cramps his style and diminishes his effectiveness. he took a massive production leap when the team kicked collins to the bench and moved wemby from PF to C early in his rookie season.


    the french national team didn't learn from this and initially kicked wemby to PF to accommodate gobert at the olympics. the result being wemby was anonymous and france barely scraped through the group stages. their coach finally saw sense, dropped gobert and moved wemby back to center which transformed the team's fortunes. they go from nearly losing to brazil in the groups to almost taking down the greatest basketball team ever assembled in the gold-medal game.


    what the team needs in the frontcourt to pair with wemby long-term is a stretch four of sochan's size that can actually shoot. i hope that krysten peek report is just speculation. unless they're coming off the bench a paint-clogging big is the last thing the team needs IMO.
    It was just an example tbh. I agree, but having Maluach off the bench would give us elite rim protection for 48 minutes. If they could play double big for 5 min. each half, he would average enough minutes. I also prefer more of a real PF to pair with Wemby though.

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    just curious, who would y'all draft if we trade the #2 pick for either #5 (Jazz), #7 (NOLA) or #8 (Nets) and add KD?

    I'm probably thinking Essengue. Maybe Tre Johnson if it's #5. Jakucionas at #8 possibly. Would be out on Knueppel since his ceiling is starter, need more upside if that's the play.

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