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Another difference is that KAT doesn't know how to defend, but literally.
He still commits those same stupid fouls that were an issue when he was younger and he still goes on tilt easily.
Tbh KAT and KD are pretty much the same player. The difference is that KAT is younger. Both suck defensively and both shoot the ball well. KAT is a better rebounder while KD is better at midrange
Another difference is that KAT doesn't know how to defend, but literally.
He still commits those same stupid fouls that were an issue when he was younger and he still goes on tilt easily.
That's where I'm at. Put forth a reasonable offer and if it isn't enough then oh well, move on to other scenarios.
The Suns need to realize there won’t be a bidding war for Durant who will be 37 to start next season. Price will only go down closer we get to the season. If they get a 1st rounder and some decent players they have done well. Otherwise they run the risk of it just being a salary dump. It’s the Suns so I wouldn’t be shocked if they waited to long and they have to trade him for some imaginary 2nd round picks and salary filler
KD is far better than KAT defensively
happened already
Tbh nobody really wants Durant. He’s 38 years old and will want an extension. Who is trading for that? I’d offer Vassell/Barnes and 2 SRPs.
And also I don’t think KD is going to play any defense at this age and stage of his career. Yeah I. Know KT sucks at defense. I know he sucks at defense. KG said it when he was a rookie that the dude had zero interest in learning how to play defense. My point is that it’s a lateral move and doesn’t actually help the Knicks. Tbh the Knicks should just stay the course and pick up a few role players. The East is super wide open
Yeah I know. When both KG and Butler call out your effort on defense I tend to listen. KAT has zero interest in playing defense. But I think at 38 KD isn’t going to play any defense either. Maybe more than KAT but not by a significant margin. The Knicks don’t need KD tbh. They can win the East next year with the team they have with maybe a few role players added.
Exactly, and Barnes is still very valuable to a playoff team. Iron man, expiring, elite 3 shooter. But he's redundant with KD, and a piece that can step right in to Phx #4 slot if they think they can compete or spin-off for a couple of 2nds.
Doubt they want Keldon's 3yrs, but Barnes is a perfect fit for a Phx trade because my guess is they will run it back w/o 3 volume scorers.
That's about what the price is for KD. Suns will probably get 1 first, Spurs #14 would be enough. Keldon and Barnes doesn't work salary wise. You'd have to swap Devin for one of them.
I posted KD's defensive numbers, they were still good on the Suns. He often guarded the best player on that team and would have a much easier job on the Spurs. Extension is said to be 111/2. Spurs should be able to get a discount of 90-100/2. I think this rumor has real legs.
I wonder who runs Wembys FB page. Just posted a pic of him and KD at the Olympicsdudes trolling us
check out the Gambo and Ash show in Phoenix today.
Gambo very tied into the Suns "Watch out for San Antonio"
I'm not high in KD but if it was for Vassell+Barnes (I'm just a sucker for Keldon "The Power of Friendship" Johnson) and some seconds, I'd be ok with it. Might even make Wemby happy as KD is his idol.
If it was #14 instead of the seconds, I'm hesitant and probably would like to wait, who is on the board come that pick. Fleming, Sorber and Maluach (OKC had him at #14 but I don't see it) are way to interesting to pass up.
After all KD isn't getting us any ships...just playoff experience. (unless there is a HUGHE surprise and maybe some injuries to eg SGA)
He was a bottom third percentile defender in Crafted D-DPM, Lebron D-DPM, DARKO D-DPM and Actual D-EPM last season. Sometimes those metrics can be deceiving, but when all of them line up it’s usually a pretty telling sign. I think he was all the way down at 15th percentile Lebron D-DPM.
was just about to post this
Most draft night pick trades happen that way.
Bring him on!! Vassell ,keldon,pick is hardly a loss
What I like about it is the cap space it clears up for 2026 offseason. The Shooting vastly improves having him and Harrison Barnes still on the team. Vassell, Keldon and 14 is the max offer I’m willing to give though. No additional draft capital. Then you spend every resource left looking for rebounders that can bang down low.
Agreed. Only issue is are you fine with extending KD for another 2 years at $50MM+ per year? Assuming he’s not going to take any sort of pay cut, which is probably the case…
If the answer is no, then we’re pretty much saying we’ll give up #14 to move on from Keldon/Vassell’s contracts and get a 1 year rental of KD. It absolutely makes us more compe ive this year but I think most here agree that it’s not like we’re contenders with KD.
As long as not Castle and Harper. Okay with #14 and future 1st round and Vassell + Keldon + whoever.
We are stacked!
New death lineup
Wemby, KD, Castle, Harper, Fox.
Under no cir stance am I extending 37 year old Durant. I’m fine with the 1-year rental because KD and Barnes coming off the books frees up over 70 million. The 2026 free agent class is elite as of right now. If it works out I would definitely be interested in brining KD and Barnes back for 2026 but I’m not making that decision now whether it makes them happy or not.
Let Wemby learn some moves from KD much like how Chris Paul helped a lot of our young players last season. I look at it like this. Year 1 Wemby learned from Coach Pop. Year 2 he learned from Chris Paul. Year 3 he learns from his basketball idol KD. Year 4 he takes over the NBA. School is over and it’s time for him to school the league. I’m looking at next season as a year to make the playoffs. Maybe win a series. Get some experience. Then it’s time to contend. Empty the chamber and put the best possible team together.
We would be fringe contenders with Durant. I'll take it.
Can we make him play for the Austin Spurs and bring our boy home?
If the deal is any more than Vassell, Keldon and 14 I’m out.
If Durant wants an immediate extension I’m out.
If you tell me the Spurs are not going to find a rebounder. Someone that can bang down low I’m out. I would rather play Durant and Barnes at the 3 even if the Defense suffers. Regular Season great offense will beat out great defense. The goal is not championship next year it’s playoff experience.
Full agreement with this take. I don't understand the desire to blow our wad on an injury prone player deep into his 30s. Presti's infinite timeline is a better approach.
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