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    just curious, who would y'all draft if we trade the #2 pick for either #5 (Jazz), #7 (NOLA) or #8 (Nets) and add KD?

    I'm probably thinking Essengue. Maybe Tre Johnson if it's #5. Jakucionas at #8 possibly. Would be out on Knueppel since his ceiling is starter, need more upside if that's the play.
    I wouldn't draft anyone because giving up on what seems to be a sure thing prospect to move down in the lottery would be incredibly dumb.
    As would giving up a #2 pick for KD even if it's to just move down a few spots in a bigger trade.

    This team isn't anywhere near contention and there's no chance we throw away Harper just like that.

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    just curious, who would y'all draft if we trade the #2 pick for either #5 (Jazz), #7 (NOLA) or #8 (Nets) and add KD?

    I'm probably thinking Essengue. Maybe Tre Johnson if it's #5. Jakucionas at #8 possibly. Would be out on Knueppel since his ceiling is starter, need more upside if that's the play.
    For me it depends on who falls. I'd say VJ, Ace, Tre, Knueppel, and Jackucionis, in that order. If I really wanted to swing for upside Essengue would have to be in the mix.

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    just curious, who would y'all draft if we trade the #2 pick for either #5 (Jazz), #7 (NOLA) or #8 (Nets) and add KD?

    I'm probably thinking Essengue. Maybe Tre Johnson if it's #5. Jakucionas at #8 possibly. Would be out on Knueppel since his ceiling is starter, need more upside if that's the play.
    At #5 Spurs probably pick whoever is left between Tre Johnson, Ace Bailey and VJ Edgecombe.

    At 7/8 they could go with Jakucionis, Queen, Sorber (if the toe/foot checks out long term) or whichever shooter they like best between Knueppel, Coward or Clifford. That would be a bit too high for Essengue. Apparently they are also high on Maluach.

    Ultimately I would go with Harper if he is best player available, but in a world where I’m GM and I don’t think he fits the Spurs culture or Mitch Johnson relays to me he is not sure how it will work I would trade with the Nets. Get future picks and send the premium prospect east instead of possibly having to play against him for the next 8 years. It would take 3-4 1st round picks and 2-3 pick swaps for me to trade that far back though. Otherwise I would just trade down one spot with the 76ers for a future 1st and pick the next highest player on my board. I would take Tre Johnson 3rd. At 7/8 I’m targeting Jakucionis or Derik Queen. If Mitch tells me again they don’t fit with what he envisions I’ll get annoyed and decide between firing him on the spot or drafting Sorber or Knueppel.

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    At #5 Spurs probably pick whoever is left between Tre Johnson, Ace Bailey and VJ Edgecombe.

    At 7/8 they could go with Jakucionis, Queen, Sorber (if the toe/foot checks out long term) or whichever shooter they like best between Knueppel, Coward or Clifford. That would be a bit too high for Essengue. Apparently they are also high on Maluach.

    Ultimately I would go with Harper if he is best player available, but in a world where I’m GM and I don’t think he fits the Spurs culture or Mitch Johnson relays to me he is not sure how it will work I would trade with the Nets. Get future picks and send the premium prospect east instead of possibly having to play against him for the next 8 years. It would take 3-4 1st round picks and 2-3 pick swaps for me to trade that far back though. Otherwise I would just trade down one spot with the 76ers for a future 1st and pick the next highest player on my board. I would take Tre Johnson 3rd. At 7/8 I’m targeting Jakucionis or Derik Queen. If Mitch tells me again they don’t fit with what he envisions I’ll get annoyed and decide between firing him on the spot or drafting Sorber or Knueppel.
    In the scenario where the organization has decided that Harper isn't our guy (for whatever reason)... I think they should look at it not so much as "who can we get if we trade down to these spots" and more "where can I trade down and get the guy I actually want"

    If that guy is specifically one of Ace, VJ or Tre... you really can only move down 1 or 2 spots (depending on your intel on what is happening at 3). If you're happy with any of those three guys, then Utah is an option. If you actually really want Kon or Jaku... a lot more options become available, etc.

    I'd hope that if we trade #2, it is only because they've identified a prospect they like better and not because someone offered what seems like a good deal and we've decided we'll just figure it out.

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    Agreed. The Spurs have at times been known to march to the beat of their own drum... they may come up with an opinion on their board that differs from "the consensus" and that is where a trade down scenario starts to come into play. I sure as hope it's not for ing Cam Johnson though.

    From my own personal POV... I hope they just land on Harper being clearly above everyone else and just take him. I've fallen in love with concept of this 3-headed guard monster.
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    The momentum builds...

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    I think most of this is us being bored and doubt naturally creeping in. The Spurs will Draft Dylan Harper and we will all feel lucky to have him. The bigger question is what happens the rest of the off-season.

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    I think most of this is us being bored and doubt naturally creeping in. The Spurs will Draft Dylan Harper and we will all feel lucky to have him. The bigger question is what happens the rest of the off-season.
    What are the best possible gets around a Fox, Harper, Castle, Wemby core?

    -Brook Lopez to play center on D and wing on offense?
    -a knockdown shooter?
    -a 6'9" ish 3 and D guy?

    Probably all of the above, but which should be prioratized and which are some names that are available?

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    What are the best possible gets around a Fox, Harper, Castle, Wemby core?

    -Brook Lopez to play center on D and wing on offense?
    -a knockdown shooter?
    -a 6'9" ish 3 and D guy?

    Probably all of the above, but which should be prioratized and which are some names that are available?
    For me rebounding Is the top priority.

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    What are the best possible gets around a Fox, Harper, Castle, Wemby core?

    -Brook Lopez to play center on D and wing on offense?
    -a knockdown shooter?
    -a 6'9" ish 3 and D guy?

    Probably all of the above, but which should be prioratized and which are some names that are available?
    Brook Lopez's rebounding stats are , but another poster said that is because boxes out really well (not sure how true that is?), so if that is the case, maybe he'd be OK. But like Scottspurs said, we need rebounding and if he can't rebound, not sure if it's worth it. Adams would be much better as far as rebounding goes. Not sure if they'd both cost the same.

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    What are the best possible gets around a Fox, Harper, Castle, Wemby core?

    -Brook Lopez to play center on D and wing on offense?
    -a knockdown shooter?
    -a 6'9" ish 3 and D guy?

    Probably all of the above, but which should be prioratized and which are some names that are available?
    we gon get KD and you'll like it

    As I said in another thread, rumor is the Spurs want Okongwu from ATL. I'm also fully on board to sign Jake LaRavia with the MLE. We'd have our PF spots and back up C minutes covered, since Okongwu can play both positions.

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    For me rebounding Is the top priority.
    Brook Lopez's rebounding stats are , but another poster said that is because boxes out really well (not sure how true that is?), so if that is the case, maybe he'd be OK. But like Scottspurs said, we need rebounding and if he can't rebound, not sure if it's worth it. Adams would be much better as far as rebounding goes. Not sure if they'd both cost the same.
    The Spurs are 9th in adjusted rb chances %, while they are 20th in 3pt %. Their top priority is 3pt shooting, 2nd priority is some more 3pt shooting, 3rd is defense and then can come rebounding, tbh.

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    Nah, rebounding is a big issue with the team, defense, then 3-point shooting as far as I'm concerned.

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    we gon get KD and you'll like it

    As I said in another thread, rumor is the Spurs want Okongwu from ATL. I'm also fully on board to sign Jake LaRavia with the MLE. We'd have our PF spots and back up C minutes covered, since Okongwu can play both positions.
    Why do you keep saying okongwu can play both positions, your spreading lies in this forum emoji guy. He has not played a minute in his lifetime at the 4. Being 6'6 does not mean you can play PF.

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    Why do you keep saying okongwu can play both positions, your spreading lies in this forum emoji guy. He has not played a minute in his lifetime at the 4. Being 6'6 does not mean you can play PF.
    So what position are you saying he's played? Center only?

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    Why do you keep saying okongwu can play both positions, your spreading lies in this forum emoji guy. He has not played a minute in his lifetime at the 4. Being 6'6 does not mean you can play PF.
    @ thinking Okongwu is 6‘6“

    he can shoot 3s. He can play PF. Wemby can play PF. They can play together.

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    @ thinking Okongwu is 6‘6“

    he can shoot 3s. He can play PF. Wemby can play PF. They can play together.
    How can he play PF when he has not played PF ever.

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    This is something that confuses me most about draft evaluations, ball handling. If there's any skill that can be most improved in the NBA, it's ball handling.
    Danny Green still exists.

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    How can he play PF when he has not played PF ever.
    how can he play C if he's only 6'6'' according to you?

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    how can he play C if he's only 6'6'' according to you?
    Lol i am exaggerating your serious.

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    Since Gambo has already spoken and we are get KD, trade down is the likeliest and smartest scenario to provide immediate value on the gaps and have asset flexibility to retool the wings in 3 years. Defense first players with room to grow on offense, Malauch, Edgecomb, defense first high character intangibles, next tier more development types you can put on an initiator for a couple of minutes CMB, Bryant, Essengue. regular season for Wemby's health back up bigs Sorber ( KG 2.0 ).

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    Best case scenario trade down 2 to 4 VJ drops and still get the best player in all-star Alex Caruso and get any combination of Mark Williams or our boy Salaun and picks/swaps. Fans shrugged off Lonzo coments but it is too non vanilla to not have some legs to it. CHA resets the timeline, LAC has their ticket seller for their new arena, the ball brothers go home, scoot 2.0 gets the keys to a franchise, we get our BPA.

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    Best case scenario trade down 2 to 4 VJ drops and still get the best player in all-star Alex Caruso and get any combination of Mark Williams or our boy Salaun and picks/swaps. Fans shrugged off Lonzo coments but it is too non vanilla to not have some legs to it. CHA resets the timeline, LAC has their ticket seller for their new arena, the ball brothers go home, scoot 2.0 gets the keys to a franchise, we get our BPA.
    Can you elaborate on what you're talking about? All-star Alex Caruso? what are you referring to there? Why would the Spurs want Salaun?

    What are the Lonzo comments you're referring to?

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    Can you elaborate on what you're talking about? All-star Alex Caruso? what are you referring to there? Why would the Spurs want Salaun?

    What are the Lonzo comments you're referring to?
    He and Kevin are trying to compete for the "troll of the month" award. Don't take it to seriously....

    PS- they are both doing a great job and it's a close race...

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