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    Spurs are middle of the pack as a 3-pt shooting team statistically. They are bottom of the league in every rebounding category.
    Yum CMB is such a great rebounder. His hands are vice like. Always gets the ball in a scuffle. First
    one on the floor for the ball.

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    Spurs are middle of the pack as a 3-pt shooting team statistically. They are bottom of the league in every rebounding category.
    So we were 19th in rebounds per game and 20th in 3P% primarily because our far and away best shooter was Barnes and we're going to give some number of his touches to Sorber who shot 18%. So we will nominally improve our rebouding and drastically kill our 3p% unless Sorber is only Wemby's backup

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    I wonder if there is someone who Spurs really like at 7 if there is a deal that can be done with NO? Something around CJ McCollum + 7 for Vassell + 14?

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    So we were 19th in rebounds per game and 20th in 3P% primarily because our far and away best shooter was Barnes and we're going to give some number of his touches to Sorber who shot 18%. So we will nominally improve our rebouding and drastically kill our 3p% unless Sorber is only Wemby's backup
    9th in 3-pointers made and 27th in rebound differential is the more telling stat.

    Spurs had a winning record when they out rebounded the other team. They actually had a losing record in games where they shot a better 3-pt% than their opponent.

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    I wouldn't look too much into team stats for the entire season. Wemby played 46 games and Fox played 17. I hope each of them plays at least 70 this season and we get to see this team at full potential.

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    But this shows a couple of things we are complete garbage on defense when Wemby, is out which shows we need to get a legit backup for him. It also shows that we need better defensive coaching as far as schemes and holding players accountable for simple things like boxing out. There are so many ways to improve this team from taking all picks or to trading for vets it's just a matter of pick your poison.

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    I wonder if there is someone who Spurs really like at 7 if there is a deal that can be done with NO? Something around CJ McCollum + 7 for Vassell + 14?
    WTF are you smoking!?!

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    Why not beat them to the punch? We have roster spots, and #14 doesn’t cost much. If there are no offers on the table, there could be worse uses of the pick.
    That's what I hope we do! Brian Wright doesn't call me anymore to ask my opinion while we are on the clock though

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    The latest espn big board around pick #14:
    https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...spects-players
    10: Jakucionis
    11: Demin
    12: Bryant
    13: Queen
    14: CMB
    15: Beringer
    16: McNeeley
    17: Riley
    18: Sorber
    19: Wolf
    20: Richardson

    To me, these players aren't in the same tier. There is a tier change right around Spurs pick (after CMB).

    At #14, there should have a couple of players available that are better than the field.
    I think Kasparas has the potential to be the guy in this draft that drops further than he should. Will he make it to 14? Not sure, but weird we haven’t heard much about him.

    Wonder if Chicago takes him if he’s there. Another Lithuanian that played in Illinois. All they need to do then is trade for Sabonis, and wait for Val to become a free agent.

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    That's what I hope we do! Brian Wright doesn't call me anymore to ask my opinion while we are on the clock though
    He heard you were discussing unlikely scenarios for #2, and thinks it’s a waste of time…

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    He heard you were discussing unlikely scenarios for #2, and thinks it’s a waste of time…
    It's fun to imagine Brian Wright, sitting back late and night in his office with a bowl of M&Ms, reading ST.com, thinking to himself "fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck... these guys are dumb"

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    There’s a ton of guys I’d be thrilled with at 14 tbh, it’s definitely that last spot before there’s a tier drop in talent imo… I just wonder if the spurs go best player or Fit?

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    It's fun to imagine Brian Wright, sitting back late and night in his office with a bowl of M&Ms, reading ST.com, thinking to himself "fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck... these guys are dumb"
    What if he is one of us on here and uses us to run ideas by? Maybe that’s what makes him such a genius?

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    There’s a really nice story on Carter Bryant from ~ 21 min mark. Goes for about 3 minutes. Well worth a listen to that portion.

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    What if he is one of us on here and uses us to run ideas by? Maybe that’s what makes him such a genius?
    You caught me… been digging through old threads trying to find the mother er who put the idea into my head to pick Primo and Branham

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    I'm not totally against trading the pick if we land a nice haul that not just keeps the poweder dry.

    But I don't see the argument, that the Spurs wont bring in two Rookies (I thing #38 will be a stash or will be a Gleaguer anyway) because of resources.

    It's not like we are a contender yet, so there es room to try some stuff (especially if its a big like Sorber, Maluach or Fleming). And after all we have "The Rock"...if not for that, what then.

    IMO it all comes down to who is on the board and if someone gives you more than a first. Especially bigs like the three mentioned and maybe Bryant are way to interesting to pass up just because of "resouces".

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    Looking at it this way, I think we just have to take whomever drops to us from 1-14 on that list. That player has the best chance of being a legit player in the league regardless of position. Hint, hint: I’m praying for CMB lol.
    There is also the option of trading the pick.

    I'm mostly looking at BPA without looking at fits with trades in mind. Players like CMB or Queen might be viewed as top10 by some teams and they should make a good offer for #14 if they haven't be drafted by that pick.

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    trading this pick for KD should be the move if you look at our recent draft history in this range



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    trading this pick for KD should be the move if you look at our recent draft history in this range


    That's a painful graphic. 4 of 5 of our misses have made it to the NBA Finals.

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    Every one of those misses led us to wemby I ain't sweating.

    We're taking a wing at 14. There's a lot of good prospects in this class that will be available.

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    I think if we still drafted Sochan and Vassell and hit on 1 or 2 we still would of been sorry enough to get Wemby though.

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    That's a painful graphic. 4 of 5 of our misses have made it to the NBA Finals.
    and 2 of our picks are out of the league. With Branham being next in line to make it 3.

    Every one of those misses led us to wemby I ain't sweating.

    We're taking a wing at 14. There's a lot of good prospects in this class that will be available.
    no we're trading it for KD

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    There’s a really nice story on Carter Bryant from ~ 21 min mark. Goes for about 3 minutes. Well worth a listen to that portion.
    The dude that tells that story was part of a group salivating over Cody Williams last year. Absolutely gaga over him, and telling stories about how he was talking and getting along with his teammates during shootaround. Like that's some big selling point? He talks to his teammates? Anyway, they were wildly wrong about Williams, and embarrassingly so (I thought even at the time). I don't think Bryant is on the tier of 'stay away' as Cody Williams, but being impressed by a guy who shoots around and dribbles after a scrimmage is really weird.

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    I think if we still drafted Sochan and Vassell and hit on 1 or 2 we still would of been sorry enough to get Wemby though.
    Yeah… even Wemby himself still got us the exact same record as when we got Wemby… so I don’t think Andrew Nembhard would have been the difference maker that pushed us out of tank range

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    The dude that tells that story was part of a group salivating over Cody Williams last year. Absolutely gaga over him, and telling stories about how he was talking and getting along with his teammates during shootaround. Like that's some big selling point? He talks to his teammates? Anyway, they were wildly wrong about Williams, and embarrassingly so (I thought even at the time). I don't think Bryant is on the tier of 'stay away' as Cody Williams, but being impressed by a guy who shoots around and dribbles after a scrimmage is really weird.
    Honestly Cody Williams looked better in college than Carter Bryant. I think you can except the same Rookie seasons from Bryant as you saw from Williams lol which is yikes.

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