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    Of all the idiotic trade rumors, KD makes the most sense.

    Although he's a bit of a diva, he's way lower maintenance and less disruptive than Giannis.

    He has a connection to the Texas area and also to Pop who was in charge for arguably KD's finest hour, the 2021 Olympics.

    Most importantly, KD would be the perfect tutor for Wemby because of the way they both can or should play.

    I don't like most of these veteran trade scenarios, but this one I could live with.

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    Jesus Christ, just think things through.

    You've got Fox, Wemby, and Durant. Those are your big mouths to feed. And if you extend Durant then this is the situation for the next three years or so.

    How the are you getting Harper enough touches to get him going? If you want him to get to his ceiling, you'll need his usage rate to start going up.

    This... y'all just being ing morons, to be honest. Durant isn't sitting in the corner on kick-outs. This is so academically clear, I'm not surprised it's not obvious to you. It's clearly a problem.
    You're literally making room for touches by moving vassell and Keldon. Take the time to read. Harper is posed to have more touches with the backcourt getting cleared out. He plays the same role vassell and Keldon play. No KD and he's competing with them for minutes.

    Trade for KD, and he inherits their minutes. It helps Harper. You're literally stuck on the worse argument against KD in it affecting Harper in a negative way. All signs point to Harper being better off with KD on the team.

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    You're literally making room for touches by moving vassell and Keldon. Take the time to read. Harper is posed to have more touches with the backcourt getting cleared out. He plays the same role vassell and Keldon play. No KD and he's competing with them for minutes.

    Trade for KD, and he inherits their minutes. It helps Harper. You're literally stuck on the worse argument against KD in it affecting Harper in a negative way. All signs point to Harper being better off with KD on the team.
    Holy , no. C'mon. You're not drafting Harper to stick him on the bench for three years (at least), walling him off from being able to develop.

    You people are being just -tier stupid about this. I'm not against considering Durant, but with him you already have three players who are around 30 percent usage rate right now. Castle might need another 20 percent. Already, even without Harper, and with Durant, you need things to give somehow.

    So where does Harper develop? Huh?

    You're just being goddamn ing dumb.

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    Holy , no. C'mon. You're not drafting Harper to stick him on the bench for three years (at least), walling him off from being able to develop.

    You people are being just -tier stupid about this. I'm not against considering Durant, but with him you already have three players who are around 30 percent usage rate right now. Castle might need another 20 percent. Already, even without Harper, and with Durant, you need things to give somehow.

    So where does Harper develop? Huh?

    You're just being goddamn ing dumb.

    actually harper can start.

    Starting five with durant:

    fox
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    kd
    sochan
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    or

    fox
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    Champaigne
    kd
    wemby

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    Let's ask Wemby

    Ohhhh wait, he likes Durant, hehehe

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    Agree with bene. We are seeing a young team and a young coach in OKC struggle against proven players like Jokic and then getting flustered by Rick Carlisle. Mitch can turn out to be a solid coach but he’s still very much unproven. Having vets around can only do good things. I don’t believe in that spurs fan “not in our timeline” nonsense that they like to spew especially on Reddit. This isn’t the Tim Duncan era NBA anymore.
    people always talk about timelines when it comes to age, but forget the more important one: salary

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    Do you really see a video led 'No way...' with a label 'This is wild' and click on it?

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    So if OKC chokes it hard and loses in the finals, that opens up an opportunity for Durant to come in as the savior, the prodigal son returning to reclaim the le. Salary matching should be easy with Hartenstein and parts, plus a bunch of draft picks. Who knows, could it happen?

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    How does the presence of KD negatively affect Harper? I’m curious.
    Even if it's doable, I'm skeptical they'll both end up here. Too many players who'll want/need the ball/usage to keep everyone content/satisfied.

    Something tells me the Spurs won't want to deal with the fallout of that or the relative depletion of draft capital from Fox/Durant trades without somewhat replenishing it in the process.

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    With Durant I debate if he keeps ending up in chaotic situations because either: 1) the ownership and team is trying to make an immediate splash and bring in KD to fix their pre-existing chaotic problems or, 2) KD is the problem and brings drama wherever he goes, Brooklyn, Phoenix, home, the grocery store, etc.

    I didn't think GS was an already chaotic situation but Draymond was there and so that one could go either way.

    Regardless, GS, Brooklyn, Phoenix all were chaotic with he being a part of that to some degree.

    I can't see Brian Wright overpaying to get Durant in San Antonio, so if he does end up here I will assume it's some sort of minor victory. And with him getting a lot of shots up, that's probably good in that it puts some of our younger players and more minor players in their place with a more firm hierarchy.

    Still, I'm not enamored with it but this is the NBA now.

    But this thread is fun watching Mr. Body do his normal routine here, I guess.

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    Regardless, GS, Brooklyn, Phoenix all were chaotic with he being a part of that to some degree.
    Brooklyn wasn't a chaotic situation before him and Kyrie got Atkinson fired so their buddy Nash can take over. They also insisted on Deandre as a starter ahead of Allen.

    And with him getting a lot of shots up, that's probably good in that it puts some of our younger players and more minor players in their place with a more firm hierarchy.
    I'd be fine with him taking a lot of shots, but he should be relieved of all the playmaking duties. We want FIBA KD.

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    Do you really see a video led 'No way...' with a label 'This is wild' and click on it?

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    Even if it's doable, I'm skeptical they'll both end up here. Too many players who'll want/need the ball/usage to keep everyone content/satisfied.

    Something tells me the Spurs won't want to deal with the fallout of that or the relative depletion of draft capital from Fox/Durant trades without somewhat replenishing it in the process.
    heard Brian is eyeing the Knicks picks that Brooklyn got

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    With Durant I debate if he keeps ending up in chaotic situations because either: 1) the ownership and team is trying to make an immediate splash and bring in KD to fix their pre-existing chaotic problems or, 2) KD is the problem and brings drama wherever he goes, Brooklyn, Phoenix, home, the grocery store, etc.

    I didn't think GS was an already chaotic situation but Draymond was there and so that one could go either way.

    Regardless, GS, Brooklyn, Phoenix all were chaotic with he being a part of that to some degree.

    I can't see Brian Wright overpaying to get Durant in San Antonio, so if he does end up here I will assume it's some sort of minor victory. And with him getting a lot of shots up, that's probably good in that it puts some of our younger players and more minor players in their place with a more firm hierarchy.

    Still, I'm not enamored with it but this is the NBA now.

    But this thread is fun watching Mr. Body do his normal routine here, I guess.
    Lmao it's not a routine. It's just basic common sense.

    This ain't NBA2K. You can't just throw players together and see pixels move on a screen. Someone up there said Durant takes Keldon and Vassell's shots... That's not how it works. Those are role player shots, third and fourth options on kick-outs and other actions. Durant isn't using the same shot diet. At all.

    It's already a problem that Castle and Harper want the same actions to get going (primarily ball screens top of the key extended) and that Fox also wants to get into the paint.

    Durant with Castle-Fox-Wembanyama works. The problem is that there's no clear avenue to get Harper to develop properly. And squeezing your crossed fingers together and dreaming in EA Sports ain't gonna do it.

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    Durant with Castle-Fox-Wembanyama works. The problem is that there's no clear avenue to get Harper to develop properly.
    I personally don't think KD has much to do with it.
    Harper can definitely develop if we make it a three man guard rotation with each of them getting at least 30 minutes.
    I don't want to see all three of them on the floor at the same time, regardless of who's at PF.

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    KD apparently told someone he was close with that he will be with the Spurs.

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    Lmao it's not a routine. It's just basic common sense.

    This ain't NBA2K. You can't just throw players together and see pixels move on a screen. Someone up there said Durant takes Keldon and Vassell's shots... That's not how it works. Those are role player shots, third and fourth options on kick-outs and other actions. Durant isn't using the same shot diet. At all.

    It's already a problem that Castle and Harper want the same actions to get going (primarily ball screens top of the key extended) and that Fox also wants to get into the paint.

    Durant with Castle-Fox-Wembanyama works. The problem is that there's no clear avenue to get Harper to develop properly. And squeezing your crossed fingers together and dreaming in EA Sports ain't gonna do it.
    I think there are lots of ways this could play out. It sounds like you only see one way. Harper isn't even on the team yet. So it's hard for me to say we've already failed his development.

    Also, Durant replacing Devin and Keldon's shots seems to imply those guys aren't on the team anymore, at least in some or most trade iterations. And Devin definitely doesn't play like he thinks he's a role player; Keldon has accepted that.

    So while I see your specific concern, I don't agree completely at this juncture.

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    "Whatever else happens, Spurs desperately need shooting on this team."

    "What about trading for Durant who has averaged 41.5% from 3 over the last 5 seasons?"

    "No.'

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    KD apparently told someone he was close with that he will be with the Spurs.
    I keep tellin y'all

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    This isn’t ing y2k man how many 40%+ 3 pt shooters can this team possible handle!?

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    This isn’t ing y2k man how many 40%+ 3 pt shooters can this team possible handle!?
    the more the better

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    the more the better
    yeah I was joking, Durant fits any team honestly.

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    I could see this just being KD and PHX using SA while stirring the pot to up his general trade value or get a non-Spurs suitor to panic and boost their offer. Wonder if Spurs are half considering KD just to keep him off HOU etc lol jk

    But agree with others who say it has the same smoke feel as the Fox build up so we will see.

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    I could see this just being KD and PHX using SA while stirring the pot to up his general trade value or get a non-Spurs suitor to panic and boost their offer. Wonder if Spurs are half considering KD just to keep him off HOU etc lol jk

    But agree with others who say it has the same smoke feel as the Fox build up so we will see.
    KD has no interest in the outcome for PHO, only where he lands.

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