Phoenix Suns expect to part ways with Kevin Durant this offseason. Could the Spurs be a good landing place?

[vy65]

Suns:
Vucevic
Barnes

Chi:
Vassell
#14

SA
KD

Would be hilarious if Zollins is used instead of Vuc

[objective]

While I don't believe there's an agreement in place, I could easily see the Spurs having given the Suns a final standing offer that the Sun's are using as a backstop. If they can shake out a better deal they'll grab it, but they have their own deadline of the draft to settle things.

Because they have a new guy with no pro experience in charge of the front office plus a rookie coach and the owner announcing he'll be more involved, I could see them taking weeks to be convinced that the deals are the deals are the deals.

[Leetonidas]

It‘s most likely a 3-team deal cause the Suns want a center. If the Spurs can route a center to Phoenix that should lower the overall asking price

Maybe something like:

Durant to SA
Claxton, Barnes 26 and 27 to Phoenix
Vassell and 14 to Brooklyn

[Degoat]

Man the spacing out there for Fox, Harper, Castle with Wemby and Durant out on the 3pt line is nice!!

[poopbox]

While I don't believe there's an agreement in place, I could easily see the Spurs having given the Suns a final standing offer that the Sun's are using as a backstop. If they can shake out a better deal they'll grab it, but they have their own deadline of the draft to settle things.

Because they have a new guy with no pro experience in charge of the front office plus a rookie coach and the owner announcing he'll be more involved, I could see them taking weeks to be convinced that the deals are the deals are the deals.

Probably goes the opposite way as Ishibia hasn't shown any patience for anything since being an owner.

[kxs783kms]

Man the spacing out there for Fox, Harper, Castle with Wemby and Durant out on the 3pt line is nice!!

Yep because all of your smaller guys will be driving in the paint trying to get buckets while your 7 footers shoot 3's.

[ace3g]

Someone having fun with photoshop online, lol

[Uriel]

What do ya’ll think about this theoretical lineup:

PG - Fox
SG - Cunningham
SF - Iguodala
PF - Durant
C - Wembanyama

Is there synergy between these players? Do they fit well together?

[MaNu4Tres]

While I don't believe there's an agreement in place, I could easily see the Spurs having given the Suns a final standing offer that the Sun's are using as a backstop. If they can shake out a better deal they'll grab it, but they have their own deadline of the draft to settle things.

Because they have a new guy with no pro experience in charge of the front office plus a rookie coach and the owner announcing he'll be more involved, I could see them taking weeks to be convinced that the deals are the deals are the deals.

Durant has more leverage than people think.

It won’t be a bidding war to any degree.

See Fox situation.

[baseline bum]

All the various offseason plots could thin quickly if a Durant deal falls into place. I'm assuming Phoenix would target only the #14, Vassell, and Barnes, and from here it's pretty easy to see how the 15-man roster shakes out.

1 - Wemby
2 - Durant
3 - Fox
4 - Castle
5 - Sochan - (RFA or 3-years/$50, 3rd year team option)
6 - Harper
7 - CP3 - back to chase a ring for the next year or two
8 - Champ
9 - KJ
10 - Wesley
11 - Branham
12 - #38 pick - 7-footer project
13 - Biyombo - has one job: mentor the #38 pick
14 - Mamu - He's Malik Rose to me, dammit.
15 - Harrison Ingram - smart guy who will probably a fantastic addition to the Spurs FO one day.

Practice beefs ought to be great (Anchorman style). I can see it, with OG Durant spearheading the bigs and CP3 flashing gang signals to his team of guards.

I strongly doubt you're getting Sochan extended that cheap, which makes me think he will end up part of this trade if it happens.

[Trueblood]

Durant has more leverage than people think.

It won’t be a bidding war to any degree.

See Fox situation.

maybe, but I don’t really conflate the two situations because teams going after Fox wanted to sign him for a significantly longer time than teams that want Durant he’s got two, maybe three years left but Fox could be with the team for 6-7 years. The longer the team thinks they can keep the player the more leverage the player has by saying he won’t resign.

[Chillen]

Suns should make this trade before the draft so they can maybe move up from #14 with another trade.

[tbdog]

I assume it won't happen until mavs select Flagg?

[vy65]

[objective]

Durant has more leverage than people think.

It won’t be a bidding war to any degree.

See Fox situation.

I don't know, months later if feels like the Spurs overpaid. Fox and Spurs had all the leverage, Kings got 2 unprotected picks plus a 20+ scorer. The Minny pick itself was a lot.

A disgruntled 1-year player who needed surgery and had arguably already peaked athletically, which was most of his game?

Spurs paid heavy.

I don't want Durant if the cost is too high.

[objective]

Durant has more leverage than people think.

It won’t be a bidding war to any degree.

See Fox situation.

I don't know, months later if feels like the Spurs overpaid. Fox and Spurs had all the leverage, Kings got 2 unprotected picks plus a 20+ scorer. The Minny pick itself was a lot.

A disgruntled 1-year player who needed surgery and had arguably already peaked athletically, which was most of his game?

Spurs paid heavy.

I don't want Durant if the cost is too high.

[dn0774]

Durants "leverage" comes from teams not wanting to trade for anyone who is at risk of being a malcontent, essentially vibes etc. PHX & GSW could've called his bluff once KD got wind of that possible trade and said "nah" but they dropped it immediately. Sounds like Ishbia is intending to do right by KD and get him in his semi-preferred spot assuming the haul is at least compe ive.

Under normal operating cir stances the Suns would be exclusively dealing with the Rockets in an attempt to pry some/all of their picks back (including shipping out Booker) and conduct a proper tank that is so badly needed. But Ishbia has no appe e for that and is deluded into thinking they can still assemble a contending team (which devalues the picks in the Rockets warchest) and thus makes San Antonio a viable trade partner for KD. The Rockets meanwhile will be content to short the Suns and keep those picks in hand rather than get just KD with them.

[T Park]

I don't know, months later if feels like the Spurs overpaid. Fox and Spurs had all the leverage, Kings got 2 unprotected picks plus a 20+ scorer. The Minny pick itself was a lot.

A disgruntled 1-year player who needed surgery and had arguably already peaked athletically, which was most of his game?

Spurs paid heavy.

I don't want Durant if the cost is too high.

wut.......

[dn0774]

I don't know, months later if feels like the Spurs overpaid. Fox and Spurs had all the leverage, Kings got 2 unprotected picks plus a 20+ scorer. The Minny pick itself was a lot.

A disgruntled 1-year player who needed surgery and had arguably already peaked athletically, which was most of his game?

Spurs paid heavy.

I don't want Durant if the cost is too high.

I think the trade was still good value. The picks could end up hurting, but the expectation was we would part with some Hawks picks and we didn't which felt like a win. If the '27 Spurs pick ends up being good then things clearly went off the rails (probably injuries), Spurs should be firmly entering a contention window by then. The '31 Wolves pick could end up anywhere, true, but that essentially came from the Raptors #8 pick conveying which was slightly lucky to happen, the Raptors seemed poised to tank that pick into irrelevance (2nd rounders).

Collins has negative value, sending that out is probably why we needed to include a 2nd unprotected in the deal. Tre Jones, probably neutral value all things considered..being an expiring helped. The 20+ point scorer the Kings got still has 2 seasons of huge money and has been shopped around for years, nobody wanted him (which probably wasn't fair, he was nice last year), Sacto actually taking him had Vivek's fingerprints all over it.

[spursistan]

Really feels more and more like it's a done deal. They are waiting for OKC/Indy to wrap up their Championship parade to announce it. It is pretty much an unwritten rule in the NBA that no big trades should go down while the Finals are going on..

It seems like the Intel that KD wants the Spurs is accurate. Everyone else is going to be a rental for him. At this point, only the Rockets can swoop in and beat our offer. I'm actually surprised by Houston inertia on that front. Do they really like their team and are getting fooled by that Second seed?

[sfernald]

Really feels more and more like it's a done deal. They are waiting for OKC/Indy to wrap up their Championship parade to announce it. It is pretty much an unwritten rule in the NBA that no big trades should go down while the Finals are going on..

It seems like the Intel that KD wants the Spurs is accurate. Everyone else is going to be a rental for him. At this point, only the Rockets can swoop in and beat our offer. I'm actually surprised by Houston inertia on that front. Do they really like their team and are getting fooled by that Second seed?

I think they’ve made it clear before they are holding out on those picks for Booker. They are content to wait for the to really hit the fan for phx. Maybe it happens next year! I would wait if I were them. Or go after Giannis once Spurs are no longer a compe or for him (after Durant trade).

[Chillen]

Good point maybe the deal with Suns is done and they are waiting for the Finals to end to announce it. I can't ever recall a trade being done with the Finals on so your right.

[spursistan]

Hope I'm wrong, but this thread is veering dangerously close to Bonner + Blair for Lebron territory.

Yeah they want a Top 2 scorer ever for a bag of chips

To put things into perspective: a 37 year-old CP3 in 2022 would've cost you more in a trade than a 37 year-old KD would n 2025 and Durant is a superior player..

[Ditty]

Saying a 27-year-old NBA player already peaked athletically is wild

[Mnky]

I don't know, months later if feels like the Spurs overpaid. Fox and Spurs had all the leverage, Kings got 2 unprotected picks plus a 20+ scorer. The Minny pick itself was a lot.

A disgruntled 1-year player who needed surgery and had arguably already peaked athletically, which was most of his game?

Spurs paid heavy.

I don't want Durant if the cost is too high.

Spurs did not pay heavy. They got a top 25 player in the league. Arguably top 20.

There's 30 teams in the NBA...people don't seem to understand what a big deal a top 20 player is. Spurs fan are legitimatly spoiled beyond belief.