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if Sochan becomes a 3-point shooter while we get KD, it's gon be so over for the NBA
Coach Moris Hadzija is saying Jeremy put in a lot of work on his shot. The good thing is it's still early, so plenty of time to work on it.
Putting in work at Clark HS!?! My old alma mater. Come to think of it, I practiced in that gym, 36 years ago, before Coach cut my ass freshman year. Nice little blast from the past. Thx for this Ace.
if Sochan becomes a 3-point shooter while we get KD, it's gon be so over for the NBA
Coach Moris Hadzija is saying Jeremy put in a lot of work on his shot. The good thing is it's still early, so plenty of time to work on it.
Last edited by RC_Drunkford; 06-09-2025 at 03:07 PM.
People still falling for IG Summer workouts in 2025??
Who is coach Moris Hadzija?if Sochan becomes a 3-point shooter while we get KD, it's gon be so over for the NBA
Coach Moris Hadzija is saying Jeremy put in a lot of work on his shot. The good thing is it's still early, so plenty of time to work on it.
You have eyes?People still falling for IG Summer workouts in 2025??
Look at his shot. It is like watching two different players if you watch video of the past 2 seasons. The mechanics are completely different and it is one fluid motion and release - unlike the hitch and the hesitation and the jerk of the hand right before releasing and the jerky post release...
it just looks like a comfortable fluid jump shot now...
Just some data to consider with regards to his shooting progress:
Poor shooting defensive wings - when did they shoot? >1.5 3PM/100 >2 3PM/100 >2.5 3PM/100 Herb Jones 25 25 N/A Dorian Finney-Smith 23 24 26 OG Anunoby 20 20 23 Lu Dort 20 21 21 Royce O'Neale 25 26 30 Dillon Brooks 22 22 23 Toumani Camara 23 24 24 Aaron Gordon 21 22 N/A Alex Caruso 24 24 29 Draymond Green 23 24 N/A Matisse Thybulle 22 22 27 Derrick Jones Jr 23 26 N/A Dean Wade 23 24 24
For reference:
1.5 3PM/100 is basically a borderline non-shooter e.g. Draymond Green (career 1.4 3PM/100)
2 3PM/100 is probably slightly lower than league average for a wing e.g. Cason Wallace this year was at 1.9 3PM/100
2.5 3PM/100 is probably around league average or slightly higher e.g. Pat Williams this year
I think for Sochan to be a viable player for what he does, he should ideally get to 2.5 but at minimum > 2 3PM/100
In his age 21 season, he was at 1.0 3PM/100
Simmons didn't show us except that he has an extremely large stock of coconut oil. Sochan showed us his shot doesn't look like a 45 minute process anymore.
Spurstalk like clockwork
But but his shot is better now! I called this months ago
The dude is not a shooter. He made 28 threes last year. Castle (who is a ty shooter himself) has thirty less career 3s made than Sochan. Let that sink in and then bring up his shot mechanics
.., and yet Sochan tracks better than Aaron Gordon’s stats his first three years. I’m betting this is going to be a breakout year for Sochan provided good health.
What do ya’ll think about this theoretical lineup:
PG - Fox
SG - Cunningham
SF - Iguodala
PF - Durant
C - Wembanyama
Is there synergy between these players? Do they fit well together?
I’m tired of people posting this lie. In Gordon’s 3rd year he made 80 three pointers. In Sochans 3rd year he didn’t even attempt 80 three pointers nvm make 80. Gordon made 350% more three pointers than Sochan. In his 4th year Gordon got hurt but he was on track to make 160 games but instead ended up making 120 threes a game. Can you honestly say you expect Sochan to even take 120 threes next season?
Ya’ll can say things about Sochans game that will actually improve that is going to help the team (maybe his defense and his attention to detail, maybe his secondary play making, maybe he just becomes a rebounding magnet and averages 8+ a game) but his shooting isn’t going to improve enough for their to take any merit in it.
So his form keeps getting better, but there's still always something wrong with it. It's a riddle. But hey, I love the progress, don't get me wrong.
You’re chiding people for talking about apples when you’re talking about oranges. It’s not in anyway a lie to say Sochan shot better percentages his first three years. Just because you value raw makes over that STILL doesn’t make it a lie.
Iggy is 41, and has been retired for two full seasons.
Bc his shooting percentage doesn’t matter when he isn’t making enough 3s. Sochan is ranked 352 in made 3s per game. His shooting percentages don’t matter. Might as well bring up Shaqs 3 point percentage.
Dwight shot 53% from 3 his last year of playing with the Lakers. I guess according to you he is a great 3 point shooter.
That’s a fake stat. If a player chucked 12 3s per game and shot 25%, according to you, he's elite, since he makes 3.
… and Sochan averaged about the same number of points and more rebounds on lower usage.
Gotcha. So Dwight in his last year with the Lakers was an elite 3 point shooter bc he shot 53% from 3. Since my stat is fake that must be what you’re saying. I like how when I use stats they are somehow fake and somehow only your stats are real. And what’s funny is your rebuttal actually proves my argument right and you’re too stupid to realize it.
Basically what you’re saying is that my stat isn’t a good one bc a player can shoot a million threes and make a lot of threes and so therefore they aren’t a good three point shooter. Well let’s see if we can use your same logic on your stat… so using your same logic, a player can shoot a good percentage but if they barely shoot any 3s then it’s not a good stat.
I believe we are in agreement
I mean he averaged one point less than Gordon and one rebound more than Gordon. So if you want to say he averaged the same points then you have to say he averaged the same rebounds. But my point was in his shooting which is what we are talking about. Bc I don’t know why anybody is even bringing up Gordon when it comes to their game style. Sochan is nowhere near Gordon as an athlete and as a young buck Gordon was known for driving to the rim and dunking on people or catching lobs like crazy. He also shot a buncha 3s. So their games are really the opposite of each other.
The only similarity they really had was they both suck a midrange
Not really, no. Not enough shooting.
He's projecting Sochan as Iggy and Harper (or Castle) as Cunningham.
When the sample size is minuscule, shooting % don't matter at all.
Harper vs Cade is kind of a weird comparison because aside from being high usage tall guards who are only decent athletes, their profiles have very little in common. In fact, stylistically they are basically opposites of one another.
College Harper:
-Gets the the rim at will (1:0.5:0.9 ratio of close 2P: far 2P: 3P)
-Historically efficient at the rim (70% shooting)
-Draws fouls at a high rate (42% FTR)
-Minimizes turnovers while creating for others (27 AST% vs 15 TO%, 1.7:1 AST:TO)
-Struggles shooting from anywhere outside the paint (31% midrange, 33% 3P, 75% FT)
College Cade:
-Struggles getting all the way to the rim (1:1.3:1.4 ratio of close 2P: far 2P: 3P)
-Only decent rim efficiency (62%)
-Good FTR (39%)
-Huge problem with turnovers (20 AST% vs 22 TO%, 0.85 AST:TO)
-Jump shot has never been a concern (34% midrange, 40% 3P, 85% FT)
Stylistically it's almost like comparing De'aaron Fox to De'Angelo Russell (not comparing level of play, just way of generating offense)
What coach in the NBA is going to allow a player shooting 25% over the course of a season to chuck 12 3's a game? Antoine Walker was one of the biggest chuckers in history and he still only jacked up 8 3s a game shooting 32% at his peak. A vast majority of the time if a player's a bad shooter, either his own lack of confidence in his shot or his coaches are gong to limit the number of 3s he shoots and how open he's going to be before he shoots them. Luka Doncic shot 32% his second year compared to Sochan's 31% last year. Are you telling me that they're the same level of shooter when we're looking at gravity and their ability to space the floor?
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