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Seems too early to give up on Sochan, but his extension is also a tricky one.
Agreed tbh, unless it's just those two and #14. If it's Vassell/Sochan/Barnes/14 I say no.
Seems too early to give up on Sochan, but his extension is also a tricky one.
Sooo I’m assuming we would keep KJ and Barnes if Sochan is involved
Really? Barnes's expiring contract is where you draw the line?
I watched that British podcast with Sochan in the other thread. Say what you will about the player, but he’s a super likeable guy. Yes, I know, I am giving in to the power of friendship, but I’d much rather see Keldon go than him.
Vassell/Sochan isn’t enough salary. Someone else would have to go along.
I prefer to keep Barnes and resign him tbh. Spurs need all the shooting they can get and he can play in just about any lineup. That being said, if the deal ends up something like Vassell/Barnes/14 I'm fine with it.
Not entirely sure the numbers but the suns also can’t take in too much money because there at the 2nd apron
Not a Sochan fan but wouldn't want to see him go in this deal along with 14
They still need frontcourt depth and Sochan can do an easy 30 minutes across pf and sf, no matter as a starter or bench player.
I saw one 3 team deal that has us sending out 14, Vassell, Barnes for Durant and 13 that involved ATL. These deals seem crazy but if we actually parlayed the free acquisition of Barnes into something like that it seems unreal and a slam dunk for us of course.
There is no reason we couldn’t send out Sochan instead of Barnes. We could still bring in a young frontcourt player via the draft, for example, under above scenario.
All in all if KD wants to be here and Phoenix stands to get nothing after his contract is up, we can’t rule out something crazy good happening for us in the process. The idea we could get him straight up mainly for Vassell + another player, whether it be Barnes, Sochan, or KJ seems too good to be true. But in Phoenix’s case, desperate times call for desperate measures and we just might be the primary beneficiary.
We can’t send out less than a certain amount to take on KDs contract without involving a 3rd team to just eat one of our contracts.
Monetarily, there is a big ing difference.
If they want Sochan then they don't get 14.
Vassell, Sochan, Barnes/Keldon. I mean you get too thin on the wings here.
Vassell can definitely go.
But Sochan or 14....I pick 14 to keep.
Wonder if there's a way to work out a multi-trade with Charlotte to get Miles Bridges to the Suns to make the package more appealing to Ishbia since he's got such a hard on for Michigan State alum.
I wouldn't trade 14 straightup for Durant.
14 should give the Spurs a solid starter on the same timeline with the core. There are going to be a few solid players there at 14. Develop the young guys and don't bring in a high priced veteran who has a short window.
Paying big money for a player with diminishing skills over the next three years isn't the way to go.
Spurs are going to win a championship without Durant with what they are building. In a couple of years they will be right there rising to the top even without Durant.
Look at the big jumps OK City and Houston made over the last couple of years and the Spurs will be deeper with young talent than both those teams.
Phoenix saw Sochan's workout video and are now demanding he be included in the trade, tbh
I wouldn't trade 14 straightup for Durant.
14 should give the Spurs a solid starter on the same timeline with the core. There are going to be a few solid players there at 14. Develop the young guys and don't bring in a high priced veteran who has a short window.
Paying big money for a player with diminishing skills over the next three years isn't the way to go.
Spurs are going to win a championship without Durant with what they are building. In a couple of years they will be right there rising to the top even without Durant.
Look at the big jumps OK City and Houston made over the last couple of years and the Spurs will be deeper with young talent than both those teams.
It's Durant. I am fine with giving up Vassell, Barnes, Sochan and #14. Durant will attract free agents.
Feels like that's 80% of the way to the trade when Durant can just threaten to not extend like he did to kill the Suns sending him back to Golden State at the deadline.
Till his next Achilles rupture, dont want
Spurs backcourt of Fox/Castle/Harper won't bring a lot of spacing. Adding a non shooting forward like Sochan to the rotation might not be possible for Spurs. Sochan is a true dilemma to me. He has some qualities but he might end up being basically unplayable because of his lack of shooting.
I'm not a fan of Spurs trading for Durant but a trade like Vassell + Sochan + Branham + Wesley + #14 + second round picks for Durant is fine by me. What I really don't want Spurs trading for him is future first round pick(s). Hurting Spurs future for a 37 years old player would be just plain stupid.
I like Sochan but if he has to be the included in the deal then fine. I’d prefer sending Keldon over Barnes but again it can’t be a deal breaker, neither is 14. It’s KD, just get it done.
The only issue about trading 3 rotation players for 1 who is 37 years old is that it’ll leave the bench very thin, so the Spurs will have to do a good job o the margins as well.
Pretty much how I feel, but if Sochan is willing to extend at something like 3/$36m I'd be willing to take the chance, especially if the Spurs can add more shooting with the MLE. If none of Fox/Castle/Harper become good shooters they'll have to trade one of them in a few seasons regardless.
OK, with Durant now on boatprd, you now have 7 players under contract, and 2 exceptions to use, bringing you to 9 players. Do you really want to sign 6 minimum contract guys? They’d have to be guards and wings, replacing the four you just traded. That’s a lot for a team hoping to go places.
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