Elaborate?
If it’s between Fleming, Wolf, Coward, Newell, and Raynaud, I’m taking Beringer at 14. That’s the freak everyone’s been overlooking. Literally the perfect backup big if he reaches his potential. Showtime Spurs: transition, high-flying, threes, and defense.
Hey I mean picking 37 year old KD with #14 isn't too bad
I could see the Spurs liking Beringer over Sober and Fleming if they decide to go big man and Maluach is gone.
Coward is still my guy if he is there at 14.
Starting to like Essengue who has overtaken Carter Bryant for me.
Williams was disappointing no doubt but it’s definitely a little early to declare him a bust. Very raw prospect as everyone knew going in. His brother even said he was a late bloomer too. He gets another two years or so before we throw him out with the trash. Still has a ton of potential. Look at someone like Jalen Johnson for example.
i would not trade #14 for him personally though. I like Bryant much better. His athleticism pops to me.
With the buzz around Durant, this thread hasn't been touched in a week. But it looks like he may be too expensive, and now there's rumors that the Spurs might be trying to trade up.
Question of what they would need to give up to move, how far, and who they are looking for.
IMO it's either guards or bigs, with some of those guards being capable of playing wing (maybe). The wings don't seem worth trading up for, in my mind. I have no idea what they would use to trade up. My feeling is no future first round picks. They don't have extras now that they traded for Fox. They're in good shape having one FRP each draft year with some of them being swaps or, in 2027, being ATL's pick, not our own. We have an excess of SRPs (17!) and can possibly take on salary.
The bigs seem to be, pretty much, Maluach, if they're really into him. I don't think you have to trade up for Sorber and I don't think Queen is on the menu. But other teams are diving for Maluach, who seems to be attractive.
The guards, to me, are guys like Jakucionis, who I think is still worth getting even if we're guard heavy, or especially Knueppel if he's still walking around.
An additional problem is who they'd trade up to. Houston I don't think would play ball at 10, for example, and are probably after the same type of player. I think Portland at 11 is a very prime candidate. They probably want a wing and know they can slide back to get one. I feel like sliding up to 8 or 9 would require a future first and that's pretty rich.
If Houston wants the same type of player, why would you trade up to 11, just to watch them pick you player right in front of you?
Draft trades are usually contingent on who is available as the draft occurs, as you know.
Houston can only pick one player.
I'm not convinced at all Houston wants to keep that pick anyway.
I think they really like Maluach. Since teams right ahead of them like ATL are also trying to draft him, trading up makes sense. Other than that my guess would be a forward like Essengue if they indeed trade Jeremy.
If Atlanta is really keen on Maluach, they'll be driving the price up for trading up, which is why I don't think it'll happen. Hawks have two picks this draft and more need than the Spurs to accomplish something. I guess my feeling is that maybe a player drifts past Houston into the 11 or 12 range (POR, CHI) and the Spurs reach a few spots, but I'm not sure who is worth this. My weird feeling is a player like Queen, tbh.
But I think it's likely -- again, if they keep the 14 and don't trade for KD -- then they move back with Brooklyn or another team to maybe take like Maxime and someone else who still has value like McNeeley. With Harper in the fold they don't have to make a big splash, these are almost gravy role player swings.
He's not a sexy wing, but unless someone falls unexpectedly to 14 I still like Sorber best. There's a 10 & 15 role here screaming for him.
10 & 15 as in 15 rebounds?
Yes. There's a lot of rebounding opportunity just waiting for him.
OK, wow, I didn't know he's that good of a rebounder, so that is why I asked.
Yeah it’s pretty funny how all the talk of this pick has died down with the KD rumors
I still like Carter Bryant most if we keep this pick. 2nd choice would be Sorber.
I think they’ll pick up again with the reports that the Spurs seem to be falling out of contention for him.Yeah it’s pretty funny how all the talk of this pick has died down with the KD rumors
I still like Carter Bryant most if we keep this pick. 2nd choice would be Sorber.
yeah my opinions on this havent changed much. i would prefer a 3&D forward like Fleming, Bryant, Coward.Yeah it’s pretty funny how all the talk of this pick has died down with the KD rumors
I still like Carter Bryant most if we keep this pick. 2nd choice would be Sorber.
i like Sorber a pretty good swing on somebody who can solve our backup C issue. i think a big man coming into the league with a foot injury is a red flag worth considering, so depends on how the medical folk feel about him. but i think he has a pretty low chance of not living up to "good backup C" level
If those guys are off the board (or ruled out due to medicals) i still like McNeeley
Essengue is intriguing in a vacuum but i dont think his talent is so obvious that you overlook the shooting question. Im still not sure exactly what he's going to be above average at in the NBA. defensively he's... fine? and offensively he's kind of just a play finisher for his team. isnt much of a ball handler, playmaker, nor do i think he shows anything particularly interesting when it comes to footwork/touch. just seems like a lanky, relatively athletic lump of clay with good insticts and bbiq
yeah my opinions on this havent changed much. i would prefer a 3&D forward like Fleming, Bryant, Coward.Yeah it’s pretty funny how all the talk of this pick has died down with the KD rumors
I still like Carter Bryant most if we keep this pick. 2nd choice would be Sorber.
i like Sorber a pretty good swing on somebody who can solve our backup C issue. i think a big man coming into the league with a foot injury is a red flag worth considering, so depends on how the medical folk feel about him. but i think he has a pretty low chance of not living up to "good backup C" level
If those guys are off the board (or ruled out due to medicals) i still like McNeeley
Essengue is intriguing in a vacuum but i dont think his talent is so obvious that you overlook the shooting question. Im still not sure exactly what he's going to be above average at in the NBA. defensively he's... fine? and offensively he's kind of just a play finisher for his team. isnt much of a ball handler, playmaker, nor do i think he shows anything particularly interesting when it comes to footwork/touch. just seems like a lanky, relatively athletic lump of clay with good instincts and bbiq
Guys I like with this pick: Coward, Sorber, Essengue, Demin, Clifford and Noah Penda.
Guys I wouldn’t be excited about but I would understand it: Maluach, Fleming, Raynaud, Newell, Bryant.
Guys I wouldn’t understand the pick but I would remain hopeful spurs have a plan: Richardson, Saraf, CMB, Wolf, Mcneely, Beringer
Would love to trade up for: Knueppel, Tre Johnson, Edgecombe, Bailey
Everyone would hate it but I would be super excited: Kasparas Jakucionis, Derek Queen
Absolutely not: Fears
Super Sleeper picks: Drake Powell, Neoklis Avdalas, Adou Thiero, Will Riley
If we trade Vassell/Barnes for KD and somehow keep 14 too we need to be looking at SF/PFs IMO. No guards for sure if we take Harper at 2 as expected.
I could see us trading up in some multi team deal and would not mind that, but it’s pretty wild speculation at this stage to expect it. It feels as probable as how well we did on the Fox or Barnes deals, meaning possible but way too many permutations to even sort out.
WTF. We're not getting KD and still keeping the number 14 pick. What pick/s are you proposing the Spurs trade instead? That pick almost certainly will be gone.
We have outgoing Vassell, some other players, need to off load numerous SRPs, and can afford to trade a few of our FRPs. FRPs we could trade include our 26 FRP with ATL swap rights, 27 ATL, 29 SAS.
2028, 2030, 2031 FRPs better to keep since those attached swaps could be teams that crash and burn in the meantime.
While some say we can’t trade the 26/27 ATL picks, ATL has no reason to tank with us controlling those picks so we will be lucky if they are even late lottery.
Unless I am missing something, like us being unable to trade our 26 pick with the ATL swap rights, that is how I see it.
While I understand why some want to have a FRP each season, I’m not sure why that is imperative either.
I saw one wild 3 team trade where we get the 13 from ATL and KD. Outgoing included Vassell and 14. There were some other players mushed in. Didn’t really get why swapping the 14 for 13 was suggested. But, reminds me that ATL may be willing to help us out in a trade to get back control of a FRP, like how CHI did. And being that none of the ATL picks are protected, they may be willing to do us even better than that deal where we gave CHI back their pick while we walked away with Fox and only gave up Collins and Jones.
Yeah, I am liking Brant and Coward as that would allow us to move on from Vassell contact this season or the following. This would hopefully allow us to target certain bigs or if necessary shooters to start putting final touches to our starting core. If Bryant or Coward are gone I would probably try to trade with Nets and get there 19 and 26th picks.
In trading back that would allow us to looks at getting some good bench players with some upside- Penda, Fleming, Powel, Maxine, Beringer and Wolf.
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