I would lottery protect any pick outside of #14 for KD. If the pick is that high it means KD probably got hurt and wasn’t worth his crazy high salary.
My read of the current situation:
Spurs and Suns are close on a deal for KD / 14, Vassell and other role players.
Giannis news comes out that he may stay in Milwaukee, making KD the marquee trade target for the league.
Suns try to up the bid(s) for Durant, putting it out there that they want a similar haul to what they paid for him.
Spurs don’t bite and are standing firm on the original offer, putting it out there that maybe a deal won’t happen at all.
It all now depends on the Rockets and if any other team is willing to make a better offer.
The Suns have to trade him. If we remain the best offer on draft night he’s ours.
very plausible list of events you've outlaid there. I wouldn't be surprised if that is close to what is going on. With word of Giannis looking to stay, it might have made the Suns up the asking price and now the Spurs could be out. I wouldn't be willing to give up anymore for him and if Houston or someone comes with a better offer, I guess that sucks for the Spurs/us.
Word is the Spurs are not even trying to include the #14 pick in the KD trade
Brian Wright trying to fleece teams again. If he pulls this off he‘s the illest GM in the league
Yeah idk I'm starting to think the KD thing isn't happening. Guess we'll see. I won't be too upset either way
That's probably how weight felt. If it's cheap. Sure. But if it's not, he's not gonna lose sleep over it
The Spurs would send no firsts at all, or just one in the future?Word is the Spurs are not even trying to include the #14 pick in the KD trade
Brian Wright trying to fleece teams again. If he pulls this off he‘s the illest GM in the league
Getting KD for something like Vassell + Barnes + SA29 + seconds would be insane. KD would be gone by 2029 but SA29 would still rate to be a pick in the 20s.
"We got 17 second round picks, bro. How many of those do you want?"Word is the Spurs are not even trying to include the #14 pick in the KD trade
Brian Wright trying to fleece teams again. If he pulls this off he‘s the illest GM in the league
Wow, don't think we're getting KD without including the 14th pick. Man, B Wright ain't one to give away picks (even for all-nba level players). I wonder what angle he's using/telling Phoenix to try and get it done without that pick.
"We're getting you under the second apron AND we have to pay this guy his enormous extension. We're doing YOU a favor."
https://www.chron.com/sports/rockets...e-20373724.php
Interesting read of the rockets options. Looking at things pragmatically, I'm sure most here would agree spurs are not going to overpay, and because of that, I don't think they'll have enough to get the job done.
A Rockets 10 pick and jabari smith(+fillers), I can see maybe the spurs squeaking it if Durant actually is adamant about going to san antonio, but I just don't see him doing that. Plus it would allow for a stronger rotation if they get to keep phx future picks. If built right, that would definitely be a championship cailiber rockets team.
Also, I could see the Rockets even willing to let go of another first round pick of phx's (2027 or 2029), to get the deal done. Odds are looking low for the spurs.
I do think it might wind up something like Jabari + 10, but the salaries don't match. Jalen Green or like FVV need to be included and that's trouble for Phoenix salary-wise. This is probably why the Spurs are being s about it and pulling that 14 back. That Harrison Barnes expiring is the key here.
If Brian Wright somehow pulls it off, he's got some big balls. I'd feel a bit embarrassed asking if it was me in his spot not offering the 14th pick as well as the players to go along with it.
Yeah, I think the Rockets can beat the Spurs offer if they want to. Like you said, unless KD says he wants Spurs only, not sure the Spurs can beat a Rockets offer if they up their offer.
I'm still holding out the slightest of hope that Cooper tells the Mavs he doesn't want to play for them and wants to go to the Spurs instead.
I think I'm wrong here. FVV is on an expiring team option. It could be Jabari + FVV + 10? And Phoenix sheds tons of salary by declining FVV? I don't think Houston wants to los Van Vleet though. I think it could be Jabari + Dillon Brooks + 10 + some more filler.
This match the direction of travel in a lot of recent reporting. Durant would almost certainly greenlight going to SAS but not sure PATFO are willing to meet the PHX price.
Seems like there are now more serious suitors than PATFO had initially anticipated or hoped with MIA, NYK and MIN all potentially in play as well as HOU.
We all know PATFO don't do bidding wars. They acquired Fox because the player singled SAS out and drove away other potential suitors.
Difference this time is that Durant would presumably be fine with at least a couple other landing spots. Enough that PATFO would probably have to overpay to acquire him.
Might be time to move on from this. Somebody kick-start a 60-page thread on John Collins or Cam Johnson.
Rockets really don’t have to overpay. If they want their other picks back Booker better be in the deal too.
I would be immediately disqualified to be even considered as an NBA GM...
because I would not let go of either Barnes or Sochan for Durant...
I would hate to even give up #14 - but would begrudgingly give up #14, Vassell and maybe a trio of barbacoa tacos...
but if not id pass ...
i would also bet $$ that Barnes will probably have a better season than KD and would play twice as many games as KD -
but that is just how unqualified i am...
You can keep two of them in the game all game long and at times play all three together. That would give the Spurs a tremendous advantage in the backcourt against anyone in the league.
There are plenty of minutes to give all of them enough total game time on the court.
And now Shams just name-dropped HOU, MIA and MIN as the focus of Durant trade conversations.
Yeah it's over people. Shut this one down.
Shams is saying Wolves/Houston/Miami most aggressive and working with Suns. Nets would be a facilitator in a deal.
To be honest, right now, teams are engaged in “keep away”. Teams are doing whatever possible to ensure he doesn’t land in SA. The Spurs/Wemby tax is a real thing.
Sounds like PATFO may have backed out due to the asking price being too high. What a tease.
Yeah Shams reported that Houston/Minnesota are the 2 main teams with traction right now. Possible Spurs are just being super low key but starting to feel like momentum is shifting away from KD coming here.
Not wildly disappointing, but I do think it would’ve been very exciting to bring in someone like KD for the original packages we were mostly discussing. If we don’t use 14 to land KD then I hope we at least use it this year rather than trading out of it.
Bottom line is if those other teams offering more than Spurs than if Spurs say we offer #2 and #14 than there is no way Suns would turn that down. I don't think Spurs would offer #2 but to get Durant that might be what it takes.
its disappointing to the extent we thought the rumored package of 14 + Vassell + Barnes was going to be agreeable in the first place, which may never have been a thing
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