Phoenix Suns expect to part ways with Kevin Durant this offseason. Could the Spurs be a good landing place?

[ginobilized]

Not getting Durant isn't the end of the world in my view. Building for the longterm is the correct play here, regardless of Wemby's health.

BW might be playing chicken with Houston to get them to include some picks and, thus, limit their future. Also, Perhaps the Spurs want someone that HOU might grab at #10 and are guarding against that. Divisional rivalries are a thing. No telling, but, what a wild ride this is!

I hope it's over by Monday.

[Ice009]

My guess is Wiggins, Rozier on a 26 million expiring, Jovic or Jaquez Jr. on rookie deals, #20 in this draft from the Jimmy trade. It's just that Phoenix wants them to include Kel'el Ware and Miami doesn't want to trade him



Word is accepting the Spurs offer gets your GM fired immediately I guess since KD has the Spurs at the top of his list, Wright thought he can fleece the Suns. It's just that KD is a lot more cooperative than Fox was and there's no Rich Paul who helps Wright put the deal together. Supposedly the Spurs reached back out and included #14, but now the Suns want more and want to move more players than just KD.




they will never get anything close to that. They are just trying to drive the price up..

Are you saying the Suns owner will fire their GM if he accepts the Spurs' offer?

It's not if we offer Vassell, Barnes, Sochan and #14. The offers the Suns are getting aren't that good. The Suns ain't biting at the Heat offer neither, they want Ware in the deal. Also Minnesota apparently doesn't care if they only get KD for 1 year.

The other problem is, that only the team with KDs bird rights can extend him. If he decides to become a free agent next season, most teams won't have cap space for a 50 million dollar contract. And he won't sign anywhere for the 14.1 million MLE. That way KD loses some of his leverage.

Why the F did Brian Wright lowball them in the first place? I thought for sure they'd have to include one first round pick. There was no need to try and offer anything less if you were serious about getting him. The Spurs could have just sat on that offer and drew a line, and then if no team exceeded it, the Suns may have had to come back and accept it. I'd say B-Wright f'd up if he thought he could get him cheap/fleece them.

Not getting Durant isn't the end of the world in my view. Building for the longterm is the correct play here, regardless of Wemby's health.

BW might be playing chicken with Houston to get them to include some picks and, thus, limit their future. Also, Perhaps the Spurs want someone that HOU might grab at #10 and are guarding against that. Divisional rivalries are a thing. No telling, but, what a wild ride this is!

I hope it's over by Monday.

Yeah, I don't care if we don't get Durant (I did want him so that he could work with Victor), but as long as the Spurs draft Dylan Harper, I'm all good with it.

I wouldn't mind the Spurs also trying to trade up with the 14th and something else if they really want someone like Maluach, but not sure what it would cost, and also what spot they'd have to trade up to to be able to get him.

[sfernald]

Are you saying the Suns owner will fire their GM if he accepts the Spurs' offer?



Why the F did Brian Wright lowball them in the first place? I thought for sure they'd have to include one first round pick. There was no need to try and offer anything less if you were serious about getting him. The Spurs could have just sat on that offer and drew a line, and then if no team exceeded it, the Suns may have had to come back and accept it. I'd say B-Wright f'd up if he thought he could get him cheap/fleece them.




Yeah, I don't care if we don't get Durant (I did want him so that he could work with Victor), but as long as the Spurs draft Dylan Harper, I'm all good with it.

I wouldn't mind the Spurs also trying to trade up with the 14th and something else if they really want someone like Maluach, but not sure what it would cost, and also what spot they'd have to trade up to to be able to get him.

Harper and Malauch would be an absolutely stellar draft day actually. 96 minutes of great guard play and 48 minutes of strong rim protection finally! Much much better than acquiring a perpetually disgruntled 37 year old.

[Ice009]

Harper and Malauch would be an absolutely stellar draft day actually. 96 minutes of great guard play and 48 minutes of strong rim protection finally! Much much better than acquiring a perpetually disgruntled 37 year old.

I think the Spurs should tell the Suns take it or leave it and give them a deadline, then if the Suns say no, pivot away and start really looking at what it'd take to trade up to draft Maluach. What would you guys give up to move up to get him? Which would be the team? I would say Brooklyn, but I am guessing Brooklyn are going to keep asking for Harper and won't want to deal with the Spurs for the 8th pick. Not sure you can move up anywhere else before then. Toronto and Houston I think would want Maluach themselves, so I think you have to get a pick before them. The only other team that might do it is Philadelphia if you take Paul George (that still might not be enough to get 3rd, though), but if you get the third pick, I'd probably start looking at Ace Bailey, Tre Johnson, VJ Edgecomb etc. and not Maluach.

[cd98]

I'm not going to sour grapes Durant. He would be awesome to have on our roster next year...at a reasonable price. I'm sure the Spurs are still in it, but they made their best offer and said that's all they will pay and Suns are trying to get more or they have decided to pursue something they think is better.

[RC_Drunkford]

Are you saying the Suns owner will fire their GM if he accepts the Spurs' offer?

I'm saying the offer was so bad, that any GM who says yes to it would get fired

I think the Spurs should tell the Suns take it or leave it and give them a deadline, then if the Suns say no, pivot away and start really looking at what it'd take to trade up to draft Maluach. What would you guys give up to move up to get him? Which would be the team? I would say Brooklyn, but I am guessing Brooklyn are going to keep asking for Harper and won't want to deal with the Spurs for the 8th pick. Not sure you can move up anywhere else before then. Toronto and Houston I think would want Maluach themselves, so I think you have to get a pick before them. The only other team that might do it is Philadelphia if you take Paul George (that still might not be enough to get 3rd, though), but if you get the third pick, I'd probably start looking at Ace Bailey, Tre Johnson, VJ Edgecomb etc. and not Maluach.

I think Maluach would be hard to get in a trade up. I really want him on this team. We could swap with ATL at #13 cause we own their picks. Although there are rumors about 5-6 teams trading out of the top 10, I have no idea who they are except Philly and Houston. The Rockets would never give us #10. Maybe Portland at #11. I think that's the highest we could get, without giving up much.

[mo7888]

I think the Spurs should tell the Suns take it or leave it and give them a deadline, then if the Suns say no, pivot away and start really looking at what it'd take to trade up to draft Maluach. What would you guys give up to move up to get him? Which would be the team? I would say Brooklyn, but I am guessing Brooklyn are going to keep asking for Harper and won't want to deal with the Spurs for the 8th pick. Not sure you can move up anywhere else before then. Toronto and Houston I think would want Maluach themselves, so I think you have to get a pick before them. The only other team that might do it is Philadelphia if you take Paul George (that still might not be enough to get 3rd, though), but if you get the third pick, I'd probably start looking at Ace Bailey, Tre Johnson, VJ Edgecomb etc. and not Maluach.

I think if I got the 3rd pick that, I'd trade back with Brooklyn for 8 + Cam + a future 1st or two.

[Ice009]

I think if I got the 3rd pick that, I'd trade back with Brooklyn for 8 + Cam + a future 1st or two.

That's actually a great move too. I wonder if just a three team trade can be worked between Philadelphia, Brooklyn and the Spurs with the Spurs ending up with number 8. But then that get complicated as Brooklyn can just deal with Philadelphia directly if they're willing to take on PG13.

[RC_Drunkford]

Stein saying the same thing: Teams are in on a one year Durant rental

[mo7888]

That's actually a great move too. I wonder if just a three team trade can be worked between Philadelphia, Brooklyn and the Spurs with the Spurs ending up with number 8. But then that get complicated as Brooklyn can just deal with Philadelphia directly if they're willing to take on PG13.

They could, but I doubt they want PG right now. They'd probably prefer not using their space like that and building around #3.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

I'm not going to sour grapes Durant. He would be awesome to have on our roster next year...at a reasonable price. I'm sure the Spurs are still in it, but they made their best offer and said that's all they will pay and Suns are trying to get more or they have decided to pursue something they think is better.

all onboard the KD train

14, vassell, barnes, sochan, keldon, (any other bench player), future R1 pick(s), swaps, unlimited R2s

those elements in a package for him would be sweet

but not touching #2 or castle

would be great to get him and be able to extend him imo

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

if suns can get more than the above from someone else, well then, good luck all. live in peace

[mo7888]

if suns can get more than the above from someone else, well then, good luck all. live in peace

They won't get anywhere near that from us or anyone else..

[BacktoBasics]

all onboard the KD train

14, vassell, barnes, sochan, keldon, (any other bench player), future R1 pick(s), swaps, unlimited R2s

those elements in a package for him would be sweet

but not touching #2 or castle

would be great to get him and be able to extend him imo

Even that is too much. 4 rotation players plus two 1st? No.

[Dverde]

all onboard the KD train

14, vassell, barnes, sochan, keldon, (any other bench player), future R1 pick(s), swaps, unlimited R2s

those elements in a package for him would be sweet

but not touching #2 or castle

would be great to get him and be able to extend him imo

This is way too much for old KD with a huge salary and another

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

"Those elements" doesn't mean all of those

like pick a reasonable amount from what I consider to be tradeable assets

[RC_Drunkford]

Sources add that Phoenix is not enamored with the players San Antonio has made available in the teams’ talks to date. It is obviously presumed that Kevin Durant would relish the opportunity to play alongside Victor Wembanyama, but it is also believed that the Spurs are only willing to discuss veterans such as Devin Vassell, Keldon Johnson and Harrison Barnes. The Spurs just managed to acquire De’Aaron Fox from Sacramento largely on their terms and the notion now of surrendering newly named Rookie of the Year Stephon Castle or the No. 2 selection in this month’s draft is simply a non-starter.
4 mins ago – via Marc Stein @ marcstein.substack.com

Suns are delusional. The last time KD requested a trade from Brooklyn to Phoenix, the same stuff came out and where did he end up? Phoenix. So just gotta wait it out. If Devin, Keldon and Barnes ain't enough for them, then walk away. Simple. Spurs don't get fleeced. We do the fleecing.

[Leetonidas]

Yeah Ishiba is smoking crack if he thinks Fox/Castle/#2 are on the table enjoy Jalen Green or Ruby Gobert as your centerpiece

[Blizzardwizard]

"Source add that Phoenix is not enamored with the players San Antonio has made available in the teams' talks to date.


"The Spurs are only willing to discuss veterans such as Devin Vassell, Keldon Johnson and Harrison Barnes" - Jake Fischer.

[Mr. Body]

It feels like the rest of the teams in the league woke up and realized Durant was available. And/or the world freaked out when Bill Simmons offhandedly claimed the Spurs deal was good as done.

Another reason why the turn to easy online betting is a wreck. Some dumbass like Simmons says something and betting lines lurch around.

[cd98]

Suns GM must be on Spurstalk reading about what people say about Sochan, Vassell, and Johnson.

[Jordan Jackson]

Sounds like Suns don’t want any of the members from the Power of Friendship Crew. (I should have trademarked that .)

Seems like we can’t even give those mofos away. Spurs keep trying and other teams are like “nope we good”. You’d think at least Vassell would have some appeal.

Spurs still in it though. As long as Brian Wright doesn’t do anything desperate/franchise crippling, I’m sure most fans will be good with whatever the outcome is.

[LeBowen]

Suns GM must be on Spurstalk reading about what people say about Sochan, Vassell, and Johnson.

Tbh, I'm 100% convinced that some Spurstalk members would've done a better job than Suns front office has over the past few years.
Personally, I would get fired by Ishbia within a week after telling him some of his ideas are re ed.

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