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Last season was a horrid season for him. He might have the worst contract next to Embid, in the league.
He's not KD for sure, but he's a solid veteran that would be coming with the #3 pick.
Last season was a horrid season for him. He might have the worst contract next to Embid, in the league.
Some of you are unserious, tbh.
Playoff P has missed 144 games over the past 5 seasons.
He just turned 35, he's got no legs left, he's a poor rebounder for his size so he can't play the PF and he's just a career loser, don't want his presence anywhere near the team.
His contract is so bad that I'd consider trading him for Beal or Lillard if I was Morey, just to get one year off it.
What are our backup big options?
Draft:
Sorber with #14?
Maluach probably won't be available and I'm not sure if giving up another FRP to trade up would be worth it.
Free agents:
Steven Adams - Would be a great veteran presence and a rebounder, but he's on a decline and I'm not sure he'd be able to keep up with the high tempo game we'll probably prefer.
Kevon Looney - Also seems to be on a serious decline even though he's only 29. But would be a solid option.
Luke Kornet - My preferred free agent. Really underrated because he didn't get enough minutes with the Celtics. Great rim protector, high IQ short roll passer and obviously has championship experience.
Brook Lopez - I think that the wheels have fallen off, he's lost all of his mobility and it's not like he was quick to begin with.
Clint Capela - Another one on the decline with serious injury issues.
Trade targets:
Daniel Gafford - My preferred trade target. Playoff proven, experienced but still only 27, expiring $14M contract, not enough minutes for him in Dallas.
Walker Kessler - Ainge would probably ask for too much and he's up for an extension.
Mitc Robinson - Expiring contract, $13M. Great defender and rebounder, disgustingly bad FTs and an injury risk.
Wendell Carter Jr - I'm not sold on him because his extension kicks in 26-27 season, is he worth close to $20M a year?
Nikola Vucevic - Expiring $21M, awful defensively, still amazing on offense.
Jakob Poeltl - I doubt Raptors would let him go for a fair price, known quan y.
Nic Claxton - Costs too much in both assets and salary for a backup big.
Andre Drummond - Might go into FA category if he doesn't pick up his option. Still a great rebounder, but too slow.
Not that great, tbh.
For me it would be Gafford, Kornet or Sorber as the best options from each category.
Can probably draft Kalkbrenner in late first / early second who can do about as good a job as Kornet for cheaper tbh
What about Mark Williams? Price is low with all the drama with the Laker trade. Big plus…He should hate the Lakers with fury moving forward.
Any opinion on Goga Bitadze? I like him as a quality back up center who could even pair with wemby if the matchups were perfect. I'm not sure if the magic want to part with him, but they seem pretty full up at the center position at the moment. Would something like blake or malaki's expiring plus a fist full of 2nds for goga do anything for either team?
Otherwise, I'm right on with all your other evaluations.
Adams is gone. Houston slightly overpaid, which is good.
No way Spurs consider a player with so many medical red flags.
Lakers were desperate for a big and still cancelled the trade as soon as they saw his medical record.
I wouldn't mind if he was cheap, but no way Wright even considers him.
I knew I forgot someone!
Idk, ever since he had that altercation with a coach, he's been off my list because Spurs don't go for that type of players.
If his character issues are sorted, he'd be a good option.
Another thing we have to see is what happens with PF situation.
We'll surely (or at least I hope so) get a starting PF, backup big will depend on who we get.
For example John Collins can surely play some spot minutes as a backup big and we could go for Adamas or Looney who would be good when we need more rebounding.
Imagine having a positionless basketball Harper/Castle/Champ/Barnes/John Collins bench lineup, they'd run almost every bench off the floor.
I completely missed that one.
Yeah, I'd like to avoid slow bigs, ideally we can get a rim runner who's an above average rim protector.
if there's one thing you shouldn't even try with John Collins it's playing him at center. Y'all can bring it up as often as y'all want, it doesn't work. Coaches found out the hard way. Will Hardy went away from it and played him exclusively at PF and see there: crazy statlines and efficiency.
People get caught up in Collins physicality and athleticism and think he can be a rim protector in a smallball line up. Doesn't work.
with what one source termed as “ridiculous” returns for Murphy III. A serviceable veteran who can log postseason minutes, a decent prospect, and multiple first-round picks is the starting point. Given the number of inquiring calls, it is also indicative of Trey Murphy III's true value, per one source.The Pelicans' asking price for Herb Jones is not as steep, but it is understood to be higher than the rumored first-round pick swap and bench piece from the Philadelphia 76ers.
Seems like Harper is highly coveted. Spurs are going to hold strong and draft him, I’m pretty confident of that and approve of that decision. If this dude is a bust, it’s going to be crazy to look back on some of these offers. All speculation, but sounds like Brooklyn is ready to sell the farm.
BKY doesnt have a “farm” to offer though.
Even if they offered Cam Johnson + Claxton + 8 + 2 future unprotected firsts that’s not “a farm” imo. Cam and Claxton are ok players and pick 8 is fine and the 2 future firsts may or may not be worth all that much.
Been thinking more about John Collins as the Durant rumors have turned sour.
He's not quite worth a first with his expiring deal, history of injuries and missing lots of games, and being 1 bad drug test from a year long suspension. He's also a problem in that from a team building perspective Spurs need a starter on a discount, under/about 20 a year, while for Collins that would be a pay decrease,.unlike say PJ Washington for whom 20 a year would be a raise and not seen as an insult.
Anyways
Maybe a swap down from 14 to 21 plus a couple of future seconds with Barnes/Malaki being the matching expiring salary.
Utah might even be able to flip Barnes if they have the stomach for taking on future bad money.
Pick 21 still has a fair chance at one of the many rumored Spurs guys like Fleming, Wolf, Essengue, Coward, Bryant, Sorber, Demin ,Newell, Joan, Raynaud ....
Sign Brook Lopez with the MLE and Spurs got themselves a stew going
John Collins should be easy to get tbh. Either he opts out and you do a sign and trade or he (most likely) opts in and you do a trade with Utah. I don't think the Jazz will get a first for him. Ainge overplayed his hand with Collins and Lauri. I also don't think he's due for an increased salary. There won't be teams lining up offering him more than 25 million. Matter of fact most can't and you'll have to get him in a trade. Even if we get KD I would try to make Collins the next addition. We have the contracts to match. Throw in a bunch of second round picks with Keldon Johnson and Malaki Branham and we should be good to go.
He's another piece you can obtain on a bargain. These are exactly the deals Brian Wright should go after.
Also:
throw the MLE at this guy
Yes not all farms are created equal.
Maybe my logic is bad but I have a moral issue with trading away #2. If you get lottery fortune like that I think you have to use it. Trying to flip lottery luck is the greed they talk about in the Bible.
I don't think that's the greed talked about in the Bible. I think if you get lucky and draw a high pick that you use it in a way that you thinks benefit your team most, even if that trading it. That said, I see no better use for #2 than drafting Harper. There's just no realistic trade that's worth more to us than Dylan Harper.
Some solid points here and an Arrested Development reference to the one and only Carl Weathers. Well done!
I'd much prefer PJ Washington to John Collins, great fit for us.
Brooklyn's farm is . No reason to sell a winning lottery ticket for a grab bag of scratch offs.
Can’t wait for my opportunity to once again post the annual “Spurs trading no one and getting nothing in return” Woj Bomb.
I mean, they already made their major trade this year, didn't they though.
Yeah only thing that could be realistically argued is Giannis since he's a top 3 player and likely has a lot of great years left. But the thought of three high end initiators, two with size and one of them having All NBA Defensive Team potential, is so tantalizing. Fox being like Tony Parker, Harper maybe becoming another Manu, and Steph becoming another Alvin Robertson OMFG. De'Aaron is already there and I think the two projections seem pretty reasonable and you throw those three in with Victor and we're talking a real problem for the rest of the league, even OKC.
Jokes on you, they'll trade away their second
Plot foiled, once again! Damn you Brian Wright!
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