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Organic team building is cheaper and more sustainable long term than hiring journeymen. The Spurs are an organically grown team, historically. It stands to reason their fans would prefer to raise a star vs buy one.
He’s also a significantly worse player than Durant currently and plays the same position as vassell and has trex arms to boot. Why don’t we pump up Vassell’s value this year and sell him for four unprotected firsts too!?
Organic team building is cheaper and more sustainable long term than hiring journeymen. The Spurs are an organically grown team, historically. It stands to reason their fans would prefer to raise a star vs buy one.
Don't you remember their matchups this season? Bane just kept running through Vassell like he's not even there.
If super athletic means jumping off the gym, he’s not. But the kid can get to the basket at will and that’s athletic enough for me. His 3pt is decent. And he has the physical tool to become a solid on-ball defender.
That’s the idea, sell high before his stock gets hit with reduced minutes with Harper coming in
We probably don’t keep Vassell if Durant comes, so Champagnie will be in the 5
Thinking about this a little more, this Bane trade may actually help us get KD without giving up more. If Bane is worth 4 unprotected picks then surely Devin is worth two (or at least phoenix can rationalize that comparison and try to sell it to their base). If they conclude that and we include Sochan or #14 they can 'claim' they got as much for KD as they paid.
Both Vassell and Sochan with picks is too much.
SGA - aquired via trade
Caruso - aquired via trade
how is that organic if you traded for your franchise player?
Nuggets traded for Gordon
I hope you're right, but most people look at the trade in a vacuum and just see "Bane for 4 unprotected picks" not realizing that Orlando HAD to sweeten the pot with at least one (if not two) extra first round pick to get out from under the horrendous KCP contract.
it‘s not sustainable once everybody has to sign their extensions you‘ll have to let somebody walk
The original OKC Finals' team from 2012 is a perfect example of your argument for unsustainability.
Nice take! Suns are sucking their thumbs though
No what's sad is that you want the Spurs to keep producing the same product that they've been doing the past 6-7 years. We've been "building through the draft" all of those years, which have all resulted in losing seasons. If you want different results, you need to do things differently. I'm not saying KD is my reason. I'm saying they can easily trade down and actually draft multiple pieces that fit better, rather than drafting for another position that we already have 2 very talented guards at. You might eventually have to trade 2 of them away one day anyway, so to me, it's a possible wasted pick. If we didn't already have Fox and Castle, I would be 100% on board with drafting Harper at 2. Unfortunately we have MUCH bigger needs and concerns at other positions than drafting another guard who's ball dominant and already does what our other 2 guys do.
They got SGA after his rookie season, not as an already developed star.
8/11 of their rotation players are either their picks or undrafted.
Don't strawman with dumb , you're better than that.
Nuggets got Gordon to get them over the hump, we're not even close to that hump.
If Fox/Wemby loses in the second round we can talk abou who else is the best fit and if Castle/Harper will be good enough.
so? Y‘all said organically than define organically to me. Getting your #1 option via trade is not organic no matter how you slice it and last time I checked we‘re not trading for KD to make him the #1 option. The spurs have aquired 1/10 rotation players via trade. If they get KD it‘s 2/10.
Typical Spurs fan argument: „I‘d rather draft all my players and trust in the power of friendship“
Yes it's ing organic if you got that #1 after his rookie season in which he averaged 10/3/3.
We could go with your logic if the rest of their roster was acquired via trades, but they weren't.
I didn't say that we can't be organic with KD, I just don't want to trade #2 for anyone who's available.
that wasn’t even the topic. The topic was trading for KD
That was just sheer stupidity. There were no non financial penalties (picks frozen or moved to the end of the round) for payroll back then. Their owner was just ing cheap. If they offloaded Kendrick Perkins and were willing to pay some tax, they could have kept that team together for a decade or more.
There’s some flexibility in the definition there but trading for an aged max player like Durant for sure is not organic.
I didn't say 'with' picks... I said Sochan or #14..not both..
but trading for your franchise player is?
If Memphis decides to blow it up
Suns: JJJ, Vassell
Memphis: Barnes
Spurs: KD
But the pick compensation to Memphis would have to be a lot more than just #14
OKC = Best player acquired by trade
Wolves = second best player acquired by trade
Pacers = two best players acquired by trade
Knicks = 4 best players acquired by trade
But spurstalk posters want to hang on to the power of friendship so they can go for what a 6th straight losing season
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