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    Personally i dont like dunrant on the spurs. Simply because he will overshadow wemby on and wemby’s numbers will go down instead of going up. If im the spurs gm ill rather pick harper at number 2 and go on from there.
    Spurs can have both. The other point is that Devin is the odd man out now as he isn't a good 3 but a much better 2. And the Spurs now have 3 guards that all will get playing time.

    Sochan is kinda required as your big wing.

    So if there is a deal for Devin to bring is a shooter and size, and use 14 for it to happen, then go for it. Durant is kinda like the best one available and he is still very very good.

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    Spurs can have both. The other point is that Devin is the odd man out now as he isn't a good 3 but a much better 2. And the Spurs now have 3 guards that all will get playing time.

    Sochan is kinda required as your big wing.

    So if there is a deal for Devin to bring is a shooter and size, and use 14 for it to happen, then go for it. Durant is kinda like the best one available and he is still very very good.

    i dont have a problem on adding durant as long as wemby still the first option on offense.

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    After the Bane trade imho the Durant price Is gonna SkyRocket... dont wanna be part of that... Vassell Johnson/Barnes plus some seconda Is the max I would like the Spurs tò offer...come on, there the plausible chance that in two years Just our Number 14 pick could be more valuable than a 40 years old KD...

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    After the Bane trade imho the Durant price Is gonna SkyRocket... dont wanna be part of that... Vassell Johnson/Barnes plus some seconda Is the max I would like the Spurs tò offer...come on, there the plausible chance that in two years Just our Number 14 pick could be more valuable than a 40 years old KD...
    It won’t. This whole thing is for ing show anyway. Phoenix is interested in trading with multiple teams, but only one team is interested in acquiring Durant, as is, and thinks they can extend him.

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    The 14, Vassell, and a bunch of 2RPs tbh.

    Take it or leave it.

    He'd be a one year rental, right?
    I would rather give 2026 protected top 12. assuming its not attached to a swap. It will be below 14 in a weaker draft. I would keep 14.

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    I would rather give 2026 protected top 12. assuming its not attached to a swap. It will be below 14 in a weaker draft. I would keep 14.
    Sup KD?

    Spurs will throw in a #2 whataburger double cheese w/onion rings.

    Ball out and prove me wrong.

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    After the Bane trade imho the Durant price Is gonna SkyRocket... dont wanna be part of that... Vassell Johnson/Barnes plus some seconda Is the max I would like the Spurs tò offer...come on, there the plausible chance that in two years Just our Number 14 pick could be more valuable than a 40 years old KD...
    If anything Vassell's value has gone up tbh.

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    The Bane deal isn't a huge overpay that people are up in arms about.

    Bane is under contract for four more years.
    His skill set is exactly what the Magic need around Wagner and Palo.
    They got off KCP money who might even get worse.
    The east is wide open. They are likely top 3 seed next season. Maybe even top 2.

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    I find it funny that anyone thinks KDs price has gone up. Like Houston or the Spurs are going to look at the Bane deal and say ok we will throw in 4 more 1sts.

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    TBH, if the Grizzlies are going to pivot even more and trade JJ, I think Rockets will go all in. Like they will give up Green and the suns picks for JJ. Grizzlies have a soft reset with all those picks. That's a deadly team that the Rockets would get.

    Just saying, Rockets might pivot to JJ if there is any traction there.

    Edit* Forgot to include Smith going out as well.

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    TBH, if the Grizzlies are going to pivot even more and trade JJ, I think Rockets will go all in. Like they will give up Green and the suns picks for JJ. Grizzlies have a soft reset with all those picks. That's a deadly team that the Rockets would get.

    Just saying, Rockets might pivot to JJ if there is any traction there.

    Edit* Forgot to include Smith going out as well.
    Zero chance the Rockets trade the Suns' picks for JJJ tbh. As good as JJJ is they already have a ( tier) version in Jabari Smith Jr that won't cost the max.

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    Zero chance the Rockets trade the Suns' picks for JJJ tbh. As good as JJJ is they already have a ( tier) version in Jabari Smith Jr that won't cost the max.
    Maybe they make a play for Ja? Or they feel they already have Ja at home (JGreen)?

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    Maybe they make a play for Ja? Or they feel they already have Ja at home (JGreen)?
    They have Amen who is younger, has a higher ceiling, and none of the off-the-court issues tbh. Rockets are gonna hold the Suns hostage for Booker or trade for Giannis.

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    When you have the draft capital the Spurs still do in coming years, a transcendent superstar, another all star, a guy who was just ROY, and the #2 pick in the coming draft who would be #1 some years…

    You can afford to trade your depth to upgrade. Your bench matters less when you’ll get vets coming in to eat minutes who want to play with this core. The fact that the Spurs are on Durant’s list should tell you a lot about being able to fill spots 9-15 on the roster.
    Exactly.

    Once you have the starting 5 down, then you can focus on a bench. Bench don't mean anything if the starting 5 aren't compe ive.

    Not to mention it's way easier to draft for roles than it is for your next franchise SG or PF. Once you get that starting 5, everything else falls in place especially with the Spurs assets coming the next few years. Got tons of 2nd rounders to try to fill the bench with drafting or trading for role players.

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    IDK, JJ with Sengun, Amen, FVV, Brooks is a nasty team. They will rely on Witmore and Shepherd to progress. But still, JJ is kinda perfect around Sengun and Amen.

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    Zero chance the Rockets trade the Suns' picks for JJJ tbh. As good as JJJ is they already have a ( tier) version in Jabari Smith Jr that won't cost the max.
    Real basketball teams worry about getting better and not who cost a max and who doesn't. It's why the Rockets went from worst than the Spurs to the 2 seed while the Spurs went from the bottom of the west to...the bottom of the west.

    If they can get JJJ for something semi reasonable and it cost them Jabari they will do that trade in a second. Highly unlikely Jabari is ever as good as JJJ is right now.

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    i dont have a problem on adding durant as long as wemby still the first option on offense.
    Not having that burden helps him develop offensively( he currently gets triple and quadruple teamed). When he doesn't have reliable players to make off ball plays, he resorts to learning bad habits and forcing issues.


    Having help offensively also allows him to focus on his strength which is being the best defensive player on the planet. No matter how you shake it, the more offense you get from Wemby, the less defense you get. For a guy his size and the history of that, his career is benefited from not being burdened so much on both ends. He's still just a kid. If they keep him healthy, believe me, he will have a decade of being the No.1 option. It'll only help him.

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    Instead you have all this cap space, all these extra 1st round picks, and your not even good enough to make the play in game for going on 5 years

    Doesn't matter why you make it, it just matter that you make it.
    Yeah, let's just act like we were in lottery this season because of Wright's incompetence and not because Wemby suffered a potential career ending medical issue.
    It's not like we traded for an all-star during the season, we were planning to tank right away.

    Doesn't matter why you make it, it just matter that you make it.
    If players without previous medical issues suffer season ending injuries, then yes, it does ing matter.

    "The only reason why he got a million dollars is cause he won the lottery", cries the person barely able to cover rent in their efficiency apartment
    Great job re , you made an analogy that makes no sense whatsoever and then you resorted to personal insults that are even more pathetic.
    Imagine not owning your place, tbh.

    I just love you people who go all in on the aggression and insults for no ing reason only to get embarrassed.

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    What the ? We upped our price? Seems like we are close to a deal.

    As per Sports Illustrated's Shadab Khan, the Spurs presented a counteroffer to the Suns for Durant. The trade package featured Devin Vassell, Harrison Barnes, the No. 14 pick, and second-round draft capital.
    While this aligns with an expected trade proposal, it appears that the Suns are not interested in such a deal, demanding Stephon Castle or Jeremy Sochan instead.
    The Spurs' counteroffer was in response to the Suns' initial demand for Vassell, Sochan, Barnes, the No. 14 pick, along with two first-rounders. Needless to say, the Spurs had to reject this.



    https://sports.yahoo.com/article/sun...082856479.html

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    What the ? We upped our price? Seems like we are close to a deal.

    As per Sports Illustrated's Shadab Khan, the Spurs presented a counteroffer to the Suns for Durant. The trade package featured Devin Vassell, Harrison Barnes, the No. 14 pick, and second-round draft capital.
    While this aligns with an expected trade proposal, it appears that the Suns are not interested in such a deal, demanding Stephon Castle or Jeremy Sochan instead.
    The Spurs' counteroffer was in response to the Suns' initial demand for Vassell, Sochan, Barnes, the No. 14 pick, along with two first-rounders. Needless to say, the Spurs had to reject this.



    https://sports.yahoo.com/article/sun...082856479.html
    Tracks what we've been thinkng.

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    They can posture all they want, it's obvious Heat and Rockets are lowballing them even harder.
    The clock is ticking and it's not on their side.

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    What the ? We upped our price? Seems like we are close to a deal.

    As per Sports Illustrated's Shadab Khan, the Spurs presented a counteroffer to the Suns for Durant. The trade package featured Devin Vassell, Harrison Barnes, the No. 14 pick, and second-round draft capital.
    While this aligns with an expected trade proposal, it appears that the Suns are not interested in such a deal, demanding Stephon Castle or Jeremy Sochan instead.
    The Spurs' counteroffer was in response to the Suns' initial demand for Vassell, Sochan, Barnes, the No. 14 pick, along with two first-rounders. Needless to say, the Spurs had to reject this.



    https://sports.yahoo.com/article/sun...082856479.html
    Feels like it was always some SRPs added to the deal. Phoenix is going to want more, but likely won't get it. They aren't seeing the offers they want. I'd almost just keep Durant at this point.

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    They can posture all they want, it's obvious Heat and Rockets are lowballing them even harder.
    The clock is ticking and it's not on their side.
    Spurs should start “focusing” on another deal, maybe Cam Johnson or Marrkanen. There’s def more than one fish in the sea. Time to “close” the deal.

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    If the Spurs and Suns do end up making a deal, they’d have to meet somewhere in the middle. What would be the middle ground behind those two proposals? Vassell, Sochan, Barnes, and the 14th pick? Vassell, Barnes, the 14th pick, and two first rounders?

    Would either of those two deals be worth it?

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    If the Spurs and Suns do end up making a deal, they’d have to meet somewhere in the middle. What would be the middle ground behind those two proposals? Vassell, Sochan, Barnes, and the 14th pick? Vassell, Barnes, the 14th pick, and two first rounders?

    Would either of those two deals be worth it?
    I don't think Brian Wright does middle grounds.
    He determines the value he's willing to give up for a player and doesn't go above that, for better or worse.
    Since Suns don't have any SRPs for many years after 2026, Spurs would probably add a handful to the original offer, but that's it.

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