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    Does JJJ on a reneg-and-extend have the same weird Aug 2 timing that gives him a very small window to get the deal done or be untradeable this year (like Lauri last year)?
    Yeah, the Grizz can't trade him for six months after renegotiating him, and if the Spurs or another team trades for him, they can't renegotiate him for six months. Basically means Jackson is a guaranteed to go to free agency if he's traded during the summer.

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    Yeah, the Grizz can't trade him for six months after renegotiating him, and if the Spurs or another team trades for him, they can't renegotiate him for six months. Basically means Jackson is a guaranteed to go to free agency if he's traded during the summer.
    I know that part, I was more asking if JJJ is in that same scenario where he can't reneg-and-extend UNTIL August, which creates that limited window (just as Fox can't extend until August), or can they do it at any time to start the 6 month clock?

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    I know that part, I was more asking if JJJ is in that same scenario where he can't reneg-and-extend UNTIL August, which creates that limited window (just as Fox can't extend until August), or can they do it at any time to start the 6 month clock?
    Oh, his three-year anniversary was last October. So he should be extension eligible starting 07/01.

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    Grizzles are supposedly hoping to work out a S&T for Santi, rather than retain him.

    If KD falls through (or if maybe you'd just prefer Santi)... what about #14 and minimum outgoing salary for Santi?

    https://www.reddit.com/r/MkeBucks/co...to_work_out_a/

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    Grizzles are supposedly hoping to work out a S&T for Santi, rather than retain him.

    If KD falls through (or if maybe you'd just prefer Santi)... what about #14 and minimum outgoing salary for Santi?

    https://www.reddit.com/r/MkeBucks/co...to_work_out_a/
    That is quite the development.

    Santi would slot in beautifully at the 4 next to Wemby.

    What would be the contact offer? 4/$80M and send them #14 + Keldon to match salaries.

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    am i wrong, or can sign and trades like that not even happen until after the FA period begins?

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    am i wrong, or can sign and trades like that not even happen until after the FA period begins?
    It would have to be, right?

    But - you can trade the right to whomever you draft at #14... and you could have those conversations about a potential trade with MEM... and maybe MEM can have those conversations with Santi? Does that legally cir vent tampering rules? Or is that still a no-no?

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    That is quite the development.

    Santi would slot in beautifully at the 4 next to Wemby.

    What would be the contact offer? 4/$80M and send them #14 + Keldon to match salaries.
    I can't imagine Aldama being worth that much. Mediocre rebounder, no rim protection ... MLE at most, just a backup

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    Grizzles are supposedly hoping to work out a S&T for Santi, rather than retain him.

    If KD falls through (or if maybe you'd just prefer Santi)... what about #14 and minimum outgoing salary for Santi?

    https://www.reddit.com/r/MkeBucks/co...to_work_out_a/
    This is more appealing to me than KD honestly.

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    It would have to be, right?

    But - you can trade the right to whomever you draft at #14... and you could have those conversations about a potential trade with MEM... and maybe MEM can have those conversations with Santi? Does that legally cir vent tampering rules? Or is that still a no-no?
    Isn't there also a new rule that you can trade a guy into another teams MLE? Maybe Memphis having the TE (and picks) is more appealing to them than players? That said we also have that Barnes expiring.

    Was reading that the Bane trade actually helped their financial squeeze, so not sure what their motivation would be otherwise in doing an ST as opposed to just re-signing him.

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    Grizzles are supposedly hoping to work out a S&T for Santi, rather than retain him.

    If KD falls through (or if maybe you'd just prefer Santi)... what about #14 and minimum outgoing salary for Santi?

    https://www.reddit.com/r/MkeBucks/co...to_work_out_a/
    Yup, I'm in. Could they be interested in Vassell now that Bane is gone? That would be ideal. Aldama, LaRavia, NAW... all players that a playoff team could use.

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    Prove it year for Sochan (no extension)
    sign LaRavia
    Sign and trade Vassell for Giddy
    MLE Kornet

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    Prove it year for Sochan (no extension)
    sign LaRavia
    Sign and trade Vassell for Giddy
    MLE Kornet
    The rest I agree with, but Giddey... please no.

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    Grizzles are supposedly hoping to work out a S&T for Santi, rather than retain him.

    If KD falls through (or if maybe you'd just prefer Santi)... what about #14 and minimum outgoing salary for Santi?

    https://www.reddit.com/r/MkeBucks/co...to_work_out_a/
    You dont trade a lottery pick to help faclitate a trade for someone like aldama.

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    Yup, I'm in. Could they be interested in Vassell now that Bane is gone? That would be ideal. Aldama, LaRavia, NAW... all players that a playoff team could use.
    Lol They dont want vassell or his salary.They will just draft someone like coward or clifford with there 16th pick they got
    from orlando.

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    Lol They dont want vassell or his salary.They will just draft someone like coward or clifford with there 16th pick they got
    from orlando.
    That's probably true, but I might even do a KCP + Aldama S&T. for Vassell + filler/asset. Spurs should exhaust every opportunity to put his salary slot to better use.

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    It would have to be, right?

    But - you can trade the right to whomever you draft at #14... and you could have those conversations about a potential trade with MEM... and maybe MEM can have those conversations with Santi? Does that legally cir vent tampering rules? Or is that still a no-no?
    I'd say #14 is a slight overpay. This is the type of deal that's perfect for the Branham and Wesley contracts. Grizzlies can shave off salary and we get a good 4 back. But I'm not giving them #14 in a sign and trade. You can get John Collins for that.

    Prove it year for Sochan (no extension)
    sign LaRavia
    Sign and trade Vassell for Giddy
    MLE Kornet
    you'll need the MLE for LaRavia. It's either him or Kornet. Both won't work cause they should demand around 10-13 million each.

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    I'd say #14 is a slight overpay. This is the type of deal that's perfect for the Branham and Wesley contracts. Grizzlies can shave off salary and we get a good 4 back. But I'm not giving them #14 in a sign and trade. You can get John Collins for that.
    Yup or we can trade the 14th pick for nets 26th and 27th pick and use one of them to help trade for aldama and use
    the other pick to bring on another prospect.

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    I'd say #14 is a slight overpay. This is the type of deal that's perfect for the Branham and Wesley contracts. Grizzlies can shave off salary and we get a good 4 back. But I'm not giving them #14 in a sign and trade. You can get John Collins for that.



    you'll need the MLE for LaRavia. It's either him or Kornet. Both won't work cause they should demand around 10-13 million each.
    We don’t have any cap space? Ah dang. I was hoping we had cap space by losing CP3 and some other players to sign LaRavia. And then once we maxed out the cap space we could use the MLE on Kornet. Tbh I don’t really know our cap situation and how all that stuff works. I’d be a terrible GM in that aspect (and many more).

    Man can I just cut somebody and spread their dead money. lol imma give Barnes back to the Kings

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    You dont trade a lottery pick to help faclitate a trade for someone like aldama.
    It's not a lottery pick. It's the 14th pick. The lottery is over.

    Whether or not the 14th pick is too much... yeah, maybe...

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    Prove it year for Sochan (no extension)
    sign LaRavia
    Sign and trade Vassell for Giddy
    MLE Kornet
    Josh Giddey?

    What the ?

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    Who’s paying Jake Laravia 13 million?

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    Giddy? Another guy that needs the ball all the time? That’s what we don’t want.

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    No way Aldama gets more than the MLE on the open market. Brooklyn isn't wasting caproom on him.

    How a modest, forgettable player who in 30+ minutes in 4 playoff games did 12 & 6 with zero free throw attempts, zero steals, 0.3 blocks per game became such a hot commodity .... C'mon, that's a bench guy and utility starter

    He shot 41.7% from 3 but so what, Harrison Barnes could do what he did and he's washed beyond reckoning except for shooting

    If they're going to burn #14 to pay a forward $20+ million a year, you could probably get a legit starter like John Collins or PJ Washington

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    It would have to be, right?

    But - you can trade the right to whomever you draft at #14... and you could have those conversations about a potential trade with MEM... and maybe MEM can have those conversations with Santi? Does that legally cir vent tampering rules? Or is that still a no-no?
    That's a no-no. The Spurs cannot have discussions with Aldama or his agent before he becomes a free agent. So they can't come to terms on a contract and thus can't come to terms on a sign-and-trade. The NBA is very much a "spirit of the law" organization, so they wouldn't care about how the discussions actually went down. It would probably be a no-no even if the Spurs didn't have any discussions with Aldama until July and Memphis just happened to want the player the Spurs took at 14.

    Not that the Spurs should even consider trading 14 for Aldama in the first place. Memphis either wants to re-sign him or they don't. They don't get a lotto pick for a guy they don't intend to bring back.

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