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    Well if the Spurs are not as aggressive as Shams is reporting, that means San Antonio is indeed Durant's #1 choice. I'm sure the Suns are feeding him this information to put a bit of pressure to the Spurs.
    Yeah, it's obvious that the suns are trying to bait for a better offer from the spurs. BW should just stand pat.

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    In 3 years we'll have 2 max contracts to deal with & castle/harpers upcoming contracts.
    That's exactly my point.
    That means very little with regard to needing to trade pick 14 vs a future pick tbh…

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    Ok....so who is this bigger star?

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    Ok....so who is this bigger star?
    Has to be Giannis right?

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    Ok....so who is this bigger star?
    Likely referring to Giannis next Summer, once he inevitably requests a trade after another failed season in Milwaukee. My guess.

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    There's no arguing for the sake of it. They can just as well wait to trade him or just let him expire. I mean, people hooting on ST isn't going to change their minds. I feel like this is the same crowd that insisted for like six weeks in a row that Lauri Markkanen absolutely was going to be traded last year... then wasn't.
    Don't you think the Spurs could be looking at a Markkanen trade this year? I would not be shocked if the Jazz wanted that 14th pick. In the short run, Durant is better, but Markkanen has lost value by not playing last season because ahem injuries. The Jazz had to re-sign him because it was the only way to get leverage in a trade scenario, but they lost some of that leverage by sitting him most of last season. I don't know if the Spurs would do it now given that Markkanen just got a new contract, but I could see that being a more long term piece worth adding because they really need shooting and Markkanen would give them a great shooter.

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    Read as Spurs presented their offer and it's still on the table and now Suns are desperately scrambling to get a better one from those teams.

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    If true, PHX having no interest in Jalen Green would be significant, cause that's the main piece the Rockets are offering in their trade package. Sounds like PHX prefers Jabari Smith Jr. and/or Sengun and Houston isn't willing to give them up. Lol at the idea of refusing to give up a Low-IQ role player like Tara Eason for KD.

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    Ok....so who is this bigger star?
    Think it's more a bigger move than a bigger star.

    If they're giving up assets, I still think Lauri and Collins are in play for the Spurs. If they can't get KD for what they want, I'm good on over paying a little for Lauri or Collins. They both fit great.

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    Yet they still don't have to trade him. He's not going to not play. That's never happened, and they can offload him in the middle of the season. It's just as much a fallacy of ST that we have them over a barrel. They literally just can keep him. It's not a lie, or a ploy, or a made up scenario. It's not carrying the water. It's a legitimate scenario. The Spurs nor the Heat or anybody is watching Windhorst and thinking, "Oh, hey, wait a minute! This pundit made me change my mind!"
    yeah i mean the spurs dont HAVE to extend wembanyama when the time comes either. we're discussing inevitabilities man

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    If the Suns don't want Jalen Green due to fit, they probably don't want Vassell either.

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    Don't you think the Spurs could be looking at a Markkanen trade this year? I would not be shocked if the Jazz wanted that 14th pick. In the short run, Durant is better, but Markkanen has lost value by not playing last season because ahem injuries. The Jazz had to re-sign him because it was the only way to get leverage in a trade scenario, but they lost some of that leverage by sitting him most of last season. I don't know if the Spurs would do it now given that Markkanen just got a new contract, but I could see that being a more long term piece worth adding because they really need shooting and Markkanen would give them a great shooter.
    I mean, he played 47 games which is plenty enough to determine that he looked like last season. Ainge doesn't live in reality when it comes to trading his guys, I’d rather not even do business with him. Lauri if he bounces back a bit would fit like a glove on the Spurs but that’s a lot of money for a guy who I am not even sure is that compe ive. He could’ve got his money elsewhere but he chose to stay on a team he knew intended to tank and he seemed fine with it.

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    Don't you think the Spurs could be looking at a Markkanen trade this year? I would not be shocked if the Jazz wanted that 14th pick. In the short run, Durant is better, but Markkanen has lost value by not playing last season because ahem injuries. The Jazz had to re-sign him because it was the only way to get leverage in a trade scenario, but they lost some of that leverage by sitting him most of last season. I don't know if the Spurs would do it now given that Markkanen just got a new contract, but I could see that being a more long term piece worth adding because they really need shooting and Markkanen would give them a great shooter.
    No, I personally don't think the Spurs have any interest in Markkanen whatsoever. His contract is horrendous and he already is falling off pretty bad. Classic contract year stuff.

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    I mean, he played 47 games which is plenty enough to determine that he looked like last season. Ainge doesn't live in reality when it comes to trading his guys, I’d rather not even do business with him. Lauri if he bounces back a bit would fit like a glove on the Spurs but that’s a lot of money for a guy who I am not even sure is that compe ive. He could’ve got his money elsewhere but he chose to stay on a team he knew intended to tank and he seemed fine with it.
    Ainge should have moved him last year. I don't know what he was thinking. For the Spurs, getting Fox slams that salary slot shut. They can't get another guy with that kind of money for that long. Even getting Durant will cause issues in a couple years.

    For Ainge, not only did he flub things, no one wants to work with him anymore. He's impossible to trade with.

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    There's no arguing for the sake of it. They can just as well wait to trade him or just let him expire. I mean, people hooting on ST isn't going to change their minds. I feel like this is the same crowd that insisted for like six weeks in a row that Lauri Markkanen absolutely was going to be traded last year... then wasn't.
    You're missing the point. I agree that the suns don't have to do anything and I never suggested the digital ink being spilled here would do anything either. But you're making the point for me: the Suns should trade KD now vs. down the line to preserve more value just like Utah should have traded Lauri last summer compared to now, when he's tanked his value.

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    They are holding out for Jabari. They can go themselves

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    They are holding out for Jabari. They can go themselves
    Why? Jabari sucks. He’s the worst player the Rockets have on rotation

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    How's that carrying his water? It's been mentioned on this board. Others are thinking it: why not just keep him?

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    Why? Jabari sucks. He’s the worst player the Rockets have on rotation
    Worse player the Rockets have is Green. Jabari actually showed promise in the playoffs.

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    Worse player the Rockets have is Green. Jabari actually showed promise in the playoffs.
    im not a fan of either…but jabari did look impressive and if he is a hard worker he will have a nice career…
    green…altthough he seemed to shrink in the playoffs…is more talented imo…but i dont know if he is a hard worker or not…

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    Yet they still don't have to trade him. He's not going to not play. That's never happened, and they can offload him in the middle of the season. It's just as much a fallacy of ST that we have them over a barrel. They literally just can keep him. It's not a lie, or a ploy, or a made up scenario. It's not carrying the water. It's a legitimate scenario. The Spurs nor the Heat or anybody is watching Windhorst and thinking, "Oh, hey, wait a minute! This pundit made me change my mind!"
    If that plays out and he rolls off 1 July next year, we’ll still have our picks, and Phoenix will have nothing. In addition,they will have pissed off the agency with the second most NBA clients. That can have ramifications down the road.

    Yes, it’s in the possible list of outcomes, but it’s a dumb play.

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    Worse player the Rockets have is Green. Jabari actually showed promise in the playoffs.
    I mean Green was the second focal point of the defense behind Sengun for the Warriors. His play took a hit in the playoffs but lots of players struggle their first playoffs and the seasoned Warriors were a horrible match up for him.

    Jabari can’t defend, can’t create, can’t really rebound, can’t really pass, and for a shooter he can’t shoot either. It’s astounding how bad he is at basketball. Atleast Green is super athletic and can create his own shot. Seriously I’ve seen the Rockets lots of time here in Houston. Jabari is the worst player they have in the rotation. What does he do well? What is his strength?

    edit** I take back the rebounding part. He is a solid rebounder

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    Rockets clearly want Durant more. Clutch fans is on page 151 in their Durant Thread. Spurstalk slacking at 85 lol

    Also clutch fans seems to think Durant will be traded before 5:35 central time today but I couldn’t figure out why? Maybe something to with him wearing #35 lol

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