Spurs trade ideas

[bigzak25]

Made From Dust. Holy ing , I'd forgotten all about that wingnut. Jeebus.

Anyway, you're good people Zak.

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[bigzak25]

If we don't go #2 for Giannis and take Harper which i gotta admit, would be awesome...who's coming for for down lowbhelp...talking big man defense and rebounding.

I'd love to trade for Draymond Green.

[baseline bum]

KD is just a short term rental.

Giannis, yes, we would want him to finish his career here.

You're committing 3 years to KD if you trade for him. Even without adding another 35% max salary in Giannis it's going to be tricky to pay KD that third year without going into the first apron since that's when Victor's likely supermax will begin. People are going to hate to hear this, but it's already going to cost the team Sochan if they get KD since they'll be in no position to extend him. So they'll probably include Sochan in a KD trade if they can land him. Also getting out of Vassell's guaranteed money is going to be critical unless Brian has assurances from ownership that they're willing to pay into the second apron for one year in 2027-28.

[Guru of Nothing]

Wassup Guru! Thanks big dawg!

And yeah, time flies...this site started in like March of 2003 or so. 22 years and counting... ��

Ha! I remember this place first getting off the ground back in the day. LJ even gave me ST.com admin keys for the evening once to fight porn bots while he and Kori went out on a date, or something.

[LeBowen]

You're committing 3 years to KD if you trade for him. Even without adding another 35% max salary in Giannis it's going to be tricky to pay KD that third year without going into the first apron since that's when Victor's likely supermax will begin. People are going to hate to hear this, but it's already going to cost the team Sochan if they get KD since they'll be in no position to extend him. So they'll probably include Sochan in a KD trade if they can land him. Also getting out of Vassell's guaranteed money is going to be critical unless Brian has assurances from ownership that they're willing to pay into the second apron for one year in 2027-28.

I'm still not that high on KD trade, but I'd accept it if he agrees to a paycut in his third year with us.
35% this season, then a 1+1 extension next summer.
He'd be 39 after his second season with us and taking a 80/2 deal to enable the team to keep everyone would be only fair.

He'd get 55/60/40/40 million from the Spurs in his age 37/38/39/40 seasons, which seems fair.
His production won't drop that much before that final season and I expect him to play for 4 more years if he stays healthy.

[CGD]

As we think about various trade scenarios, i wonder how folks rank their various future assets in light of new info (e.g., Luka trade, BOS cap situation). How would you rank them most, to least valuable:

26 FRP: Better of SA/ATL
27 FRP: ATL
28 FRP: Better of SAS/BOS (top1 ptx)
29 FRP: SAS
30 FRP: Better of SAS/DAL/MIN
31 FRP: Better of SAS/SAC
32 FRP: SAS

[LeBowen]

From most to least valuable:
30 FRP: Better of SAS/DAL/MIN
31 FRP: Better of SAS/SAC
27 FRP: ATL
26 FRP: Better of SA/ATL
32 FRP: SAS
28 FRP: Better of SAS/BOS (top1 ptx)
29 FRP: SAS

It's close between the two most valuable picks, I guess having two swap options is better than one and Mavs won't be in a good situation in '27-30 period because they'll have no assets to improve the team with when Kyrie/Klay/AD are gone.
Kings are guaranteed to be subpar.
Advantage to '27 Hawks pick because it's more likely Trae is goine by then.
Celtics won't get close to the lottery with Brad Stevens in charge and Tatum should be fully recovered from his Achilles injury.
I put '32 SAS ahead of those two picks because 7 years is a long time and who knows if Wemby stays healthy. That pick is one bad injury away from being gold.

[baseline bum]

I'm still not that high on KD trade, but I'd accept it if he agrees to a paycut in his third year with us.
35% this season, then a 1+1 extension next summer.
He'd be 39 after his second season with us and taking a 80/2 deal to enable the team to keep everyone would be only fair.

He'd get 55/60/40/40 million from the Spurs in his age 37/38/39/40 seasons, which seems fair.
His production won't drop that much before that final season and I expect him to play for 4 more years if he stays healthy.

Would be nice but I don't expect KD to take any shorts.

[LeBowen]

Would be nice but I don't expect KD to take any shorts.

Well then, best of luck to him in trying to find a team that's going to offer him 120/2 at 39.
Especially since Spurs would have no need to take a bad return in a potential S&T.

If Spurs are a top contender in 26-27 season, I think he'll take at least some discount to keep it going.

[ismael-robert]

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Remember when this guy was quick to throw out the fake christian label. No Zak nothing personal on this site if u been here that long u should kno u need thick skin cause everyone talks trash to each other...but if u make fantasizing stupid posts that have no sense of reality yeah expect to get flamed n dont be so surprised

[bigzak25]

You're committing 3 years to KD if you trade for him. Even without adding another 35% max salary in Giannis it's going to be tricky to pay KD that third year without going into the first apron since that's when Victor's likely supermax will begin. People are going to hate to hear this, but it's already going to cost the team Sochan if they get KD since they'll be in no position to extend him. So they'll probably include Sochan in a KD trade if they can land him. Also getting out of Vassell's guaranteed money is going to be critical unless Brian has assurances from ownership that they're willing to pay into the second apron for one year in 2027-28.

You're spot on bro. Vassel and #2 for Giannis. Sochan and #14 for KD. In year 3, Spurs Trade him to his team of choice.

[bigzak25]

Ha! I remember this place first getting off the ground back in the day. LJ even gave me ST.com admin keys for the evening once to fight porn bots while he and Kori went out on a date, or something.

Smooth bro. Yeah. They're chill af. Great people.

[exstatic]

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Just posting, dude.

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[benefactor]

You got something to say. Then address me like a man Ex. My movie would win an Oscar. You got a problem with me or you just like talking ?

I got something to say. You're a ing dumbass and have done nothing but post mostly dumb the whole time you've been back. I heard through some people here you have gotten your weight under control which is a good thing. Maybe you should try to do the same thing with your brain.

[bigzak25]

Just posting, dude.

Definitely Oscar worthy with Jonah Hill playing you.

All good then bro. I don't mind posting if you're honest about it. I'd buy you a beer. Godbless you Ex.

[bigzak25]

I got something to say. You're a ing dumbass and have done nothing but post mostly dumb the whole time you've been back. I heard through some people here you have gotten your weight under control which is a good thing. Maybe you should try to do the same thing with your brain.

No Sir. My weight is not under control. I weighed myself yesterday and came in at 456lbs. But I have a plan to get the injections and get down to 225 by 2027.

Now point 2. Sir, why am I a ing dumbass? What have I done to you? If you don't like my posts. That's cool. It's a free country. Just scroll past bro.

And I humbly disagree that I'm posting dumb .

I posted about Giannis and KD weeks before the media did.

I broached the subject of Manu or Becky as a new Coach. I don't think that's a dumb discussion.

I rooted for Kawhi and thought Golden State had something. I was wrong. It happens.

And now I'm rooting fir the Pacers and discussing the trade for Giannis in the appropriate thread.

In the NFL forum, I'm talking Redskins/Commanders.

And in the Club. I'm searching for Mouse and telling a bit of my life story.

So man. I'm not posting dude.

I'm trying to contribute good stuff.

And regarding my brain, you'll have to excuse me. I'm bipolar I. The serious one. I've been through some shi bro.

Now? I'm a devoted Jesus follower.

I love God and I love Jesus with all my heart.

I'll even pray for you and your family to be safe and be blessed bro. Godbless you.

[bigzak25]

Just posting, dude.

Definitely Oscar worthy with Jonah Hill playing you.

One thing though bro. I'm no actor. I'm a truth teller. What you see is what you get. And I don't appreciate the Jonah Hill comparison just cuz I'm fat right now.

The truth is, I can be an Angel. And I can be a beast.

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https://youtu.be/_MMbWLqGyOM?si=jZL7XaTXGAlaojCT

[Mr. Body]

What the is going on

[bigzak25]

Remember when this guy was quick to throw out the fake christian label. No Zak nothing personal on this site if u been here that long u should kno u need thick skin cause everyone talks trash to each other...but if u make fantasizing stupid posts that have no sense of reality yeah expect to get flamed n dont be so surprised

You have a good point. So noted Sir.

[bigzak25]

What the is going on

Lol. Bringing this thread to life bro! Just ing things up. All good.

[baseline bum]

You're spot on bro. Vassel and #2 for Giannis. Sochan and #14 for KD. In year 3, Spurs Trade him to his team of choice.

That's a financial disaster because KD would be an expiring and there's no way they're going to get $60 million in unguaranteed contracts back to cut loose so they can re-sign Wemby. The money doesn't work, the Spurs can't go out and buy two Ferraris this summer unless they wanna lose the house in a couple of years.

[KobesAchilles]

Tbh if we trade for both Giannis and KD this offseason (we won’t but if we did) then we don’t have to extend KD at all. He can go himself. Offer him a 1+1 deal and that’s it. He wouldn’t even leave either bc it’s be too great a chance at a ring.

[venitian navigator]

If we really like this draft it could be an idea to give back to Atlanta the 26 swap plus 38 for 13 and 22...
They could accept considering you give them back at least for 2026 their chance to decide for tanking (actually they are probably not in the top 10 in the east)...

[RC_Drunkford]

That's a financial disaster because KD would be an expiring and there's no way they're going to get $60 million in unguaranteed contracts back to cut loose so they can re-sign Wemby. The money doesn't work, the Spurs can't go out and buy two Ferraris this summer unless they wanna lose the house in a couple of years.

the 27/28 cap situation hinges on the amount of the extensions. The max Wemby will command is 56 million. Vecenie mentioned that Fox' extension would be 140/3 which is like 47 million per year and is great value. I actually expected it to start at 51 million and go up.

KD will take a discount. He's not getting 60 million in that year. If he signs a 1+1 he could actually opt out and the Spurs could give him a 2-year deal with the last year being partially guaranteed. He can then retire after 1 year and get a couple millions the year after. Spurs did something like that with Manu when he retired.

Sochan's extension also depends on the price, if we indeed keep him. People say 33/3 would be fair, but it could easily be 70/4. All depends on what they negotiate.

Then there's the whole thing with frontloading salaries and have declining contracts. The Spurs have so much flexibility that I'm not worried about those things at all.

[baseline bum]

the 27/28 cap situation hinges on the amount of the extensions. The max Wemby will command is 56 million. Vecenie mentioned that Fox' extension would be 140/3 which is like 47 million per year and is great value. I actually expected it to start at 51 million and go up.

KD will take a discount. He's not getting 60 million in that year. If he signs a 1+1 he could actually opt out and the Spurs could give him a 2-year deal with the last year being partially guaranteed. He can then retire after 1 year and get a couple millions the year after. Spurs did something like that with Manu when he retired.

Sochan's extension also depends on the price, if we indeed keep him. People say 33/3 would be fair, but it could easily be 70/4. All depends on what they negotiate.

Then there's the whole thing with frontloading salaries and have declining contracts. The Spurs have so much flexibility that I'm not worried about those things at all.

1. Vecenie is a draft guy, why would he have any sources as to what Fox is asking? And this is the same Fox that wanted to stay in Sacramento if he would have been supermax eligible, but now he's taking a paycut and only a three year deal? Not buying either part of that.

2. Durant has already floated he wants a two year $120 million extension out to the media.

3. Even if he doesn't ask for max frontloading only changes things maybe $3 to $5 million each way.