I just hope they let Harper wear #2 tbh. Will be trash if they make him change it because of nephew's ass.
That's exactly what's going to happen.
Fox chose #2 and changed it to #4 because it was his wife number...which is just a decent story after they told him nephew's number is out of commission.
Would be nice to have #1 through #5 starting lineup, but I guess Keldon will take #3 back if he doesn't get traded.
The quick brown fox! Though I never saw him play as he was already retired by the time I started watching basketball lol
So ing lame tbh. The only other # I've seen Harper wear is #3 (in a tournament) so I assume he'll roll with that if Keldon doesn't take it back, or maybe #0 instead if Keldon does. Either way, incredibly gay if they do that, which I assume they will too.
Interesting comparison.. Harden ended up being a better player based mostly on him being the more reliable & superior offensive engine (hence a regular season MVP winner and contender for many others), but you could argue that they were same tier player in the final analysis (Blake's injuries blur the picture) Neither was good enough to carry a team as number 1 option in the playoffs. The good news for Spurs: they don't need Harper to scratch MVP level or even 1st team All-NBA to win a ring, but Mavs most certainly need Flagg to become that guy to contend. My too early prediction: Flagg will top as the overall better, but not by a chasm..If we ignore Grizzlies picking Hasheem Thabeet with #2, it could also be a Griffin/Harden situation.
This is a pretty wild take
Gotta admit still have not rapped my head around that we got the 2nd pick in this draft. I probably did a thousand mocks on Tankathon and for what ever reason the 2nd pick was one I got the fewest in fact got the first pick way more then the second pick.
One thing that this draft and our trade with Hawks has shown me that getting a top 3 pick is pretty damn hard no matter how bad your record is there are no sure things. I have been pretty upfront that I wanted to tank for Wemby and also for Flagg, but still extremely happy we getting Harper. So for me the hard part starts as we now got the talent and we got some pieces to make some trades if we need to as far as players or future draft picks.
At first, I thought it's because of Kawhi's number, but wasn't sure if Fox was told he can't have it or if De'Aaron changed his mind on it himself for his wife.
If it wasn't because of Kawhi or De'Aaron actually changing his mind, maybe they wanted to leave that number open just in case they won the draft lottery? I knew Cooper wore #2, but I also didn't know Dylan Harper also wears #2 (I knew next to nothing about Harper at the time of the Fox trade). Spurs had amazing luck in the draft lottery and now have the right to draft one of these guys. I think Dylan should be allowed to wear that number if he wants it.
I agree with that. Getting a top 3 pick is a lot harder than people think. And I also think you're right, you definitely could say that the harder part/s starts now. Spurs have to make smart moves from this point on and start building this up. This is where the harder decisions start with what to do with those assets, what players to bring in, figuring out the core players. Lots of work to be done from this point on.
No Fox wanted to wear 5 and Castle already got that number so he switched to 4. The mock ups of him in a Spurs jersey had him wearing 2.
They're gonna retire Kawhi's number as long as Pop is alive when Leonard retires.
It's funny I got the #2 on tankathon all the time but rarely the #1
I just wanted top 4 badly, though that was back when it looked set in stone that Edgecombe would be there with Bailey going #3. Now I wouldn't be nearly as thrilled with #4 since Philly is 99% taking Edgecombe #3 which leaves Tre Johnson the guy I'd have wanted at #4.
I kind of can't get over that we were one number away from having both #1 and #2.It's funny I got the #2 on tankathon all the time but rarely the #1
I just wanted top 4 badly, though that was back when it looked set in stone that Edgecombe would be there with Bailey going #3. Now I wouldn't be nearly as thrilled with #4 since Philly is 99% taking Edgecombe #3 which leaves Tre Johnson the guy I'd have wanted at #4.
Before the lottery I wast just hoping for a legit 3-D prospect, now we can get both Harper and a wing.
In hindsight, it would've been perfect if we got Markkanen instead of Fox, but I'm not complaining.
Before the lottery I was hoping for KonI kind of can't get over that we were one number away from having both #1 and #2.
Before the lottery I wast just hoping for a legit 3-D prospect, now we can get both Harper and a wing.
In hindsight, it would've been perfect if we got Markkanen instead of Fox, but I'm not complaining.
Would be like in 2022 hoping we could get Mathurin and instead being gifted Chet (who I was pissed the Spurs didn't tank for at the time
To my eye Harper is a little quicker, little better ball handler, gets to the rim a little faster but Cade’s length and hoops allow him to get less difficult shots.
Cade was also always a better shooter than Harper
I'd even say Kawhi's number was functionally retired once he got a Finals MVP and 2 DPOYs for the org, whether Pop is around or not.
I agree Cade was a better shooter (stats bare that out obv), but I do think Harper will surprise in a positive way with his shooting even as a rookie. To me, his college season stats got pulled down hard due to a stretch where he arguably shouldn't have been playing due to a high ankle sprain and illness. In a 29 game season those 5 or 6 games had a magnified effect on his averages and efficiency much more so than a rough little stretch would in an 82 game season.
I'm just not ready to declare him a bad shooter in the vein of Castle.
the spacing on that Rutgers team was garbage.
enter stephon castle and jeremy sochan
Wednesday cant come quick enough.
The team in general was garbage. Harper should've committed elsewhere tbh. He was asked to do everything for them and to try to bail them out in every close game. He's going to be a monster with NBA spacing imo.
Out of curiosity I compared Castle’s stats to Cunningham’s rookie stats.
Cunningham: Minutes 32.6; PPG 17.4 FG% 41.6; 3 pt% 31.4 (actually dropped to 27.9 his second year with no better FG%) ; FT% 84.5 Asst/TO 5.6/3.7
Castle: Minutes 29.9; PPG 14.7; FG% 42.8; 3 p%t 28.5; FT% 72.4; Asst/TO 4.1/2.2
I think Castle has a good chance of topping Cunningham’s second year FG and 3 pt %, hopefully by a significant margin, and would be disappointed if Harper didn’t have better numbers his rookie season.
Worth pointing out Cade's 2nd season only amounted to 12 games due to injury, not really a legit sample. Still, I didn't realize Castle had such a similar stats to rookie Cade, interesting stuff. I hope Dylan is able to get decent minutes and usage in his rookie year but if Vassell is somehow in the fold still it will be tough.
That might be true, but I still think they need to carefully weigh the chicken way he forced his way out in the decision. Especially because he accused the team doctors of lying about his diagnosis when the Toronto doctors told him the same thing. Every other player with his jersey retired didn’t display any disrespect to the team like that. If anything, poll the fans.
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